Patrick Dorgu | 2024/25 Performances

[Red the Bear]

Looking much much better recently.

 

[Beans]

Reminds me of a sort of hybrid between Keenan and Kel.

That’s eerily accurate.

He was in the middle of most of the good play, I was impressed.

 

[Poborsky's hair]

Shame his touch is raw, still gives us good options with his athleticism and how he covers the ball well. let's see how he develops. He can be anything from expensive version of Malacia to Prime Valencia from now on.

 

[Godfather]

Needs to work on his passing, crossing and touch but his athleticism is quite something

 

[simplyared]

Like everything about him apart from when he gets near goal. Whether its a pass or a shot he bottles it. Hopefully can be sorted.

 

[Foolsgold21]

He’s a helluva upgrade on Malacia even at only 20. A bit untidy at times but hopefully that will improve, and for now he more than makes up for that in other areas,

Needs to stop shooting mind!

 

[2 man midfield]

If it was VAR who overturned it the ref would’ve went to the screen

Would it? Fair enough, I didn’t think that was always the case

 

[bond19821982]

With the amount of running our full backs have to do, we probably need one more for the left .

Shaw can't be trusted and I don't know if our kids are ready.

 

[Shinjch]

Looks a good athlete, and knows how to win fouls. Things to work with anyway.

 

[Bwuk]

With the amount of running our full backs have to do, we probably need one more for the left .

Shaw can't be trusted and I don't know if our kids are ready.

I agree.

I think we need 2 wingbacks for either side. Allows rotation/subs/injuries.

 

[Remember the geese]

With the amount of running our full backs have to do, we probably need one more for the left .

Shaw can't be trusted and I don't know if our kids are ready.

Dorgu and Amass on the left.
Amad and Kamason on the right.

 

[KeanosMagic]

Dorgu and Amass on the left.
Amad and Kamason on the right.

Not sure I am in the minority here but I much prefer Amad as one of the 10s.

I think a tight sided wingback in a must this summer.

 

[Remember the geese]

Not sure I am in the minority here but I much prefer Amad as one of the 10s.

I think a tight sided wingback in a must this summer.

I'd like us to sign Cherki. Hence, why I'd use Amad at wing-back.

 

[Crimson King]

I agree.

I think we need 2 wingbacks for either side. Allows rotation/subs/injuries.

I think Leon will be expected to be backup on the left. Might be wrong, but don't think he'll go into the youth side or be sent on loan, like some have suggested.

Dalot can also still play on the left (I know it's not ideal, but he can), so maybe you just need another RWB? (Preferably a young player who the club thinks will easily surpass Dalot within a season or two)

 

[Bertie Wooster]

I think Leon will be expected to be backup on the left. Might be wrong, but don't think he'll go into the youth side or be sent on loan, like some have suggested.

Dalot can also still play on the left (I know it's not ideal, but he can), so maybe you just need another RWB? (Preferably a young player who the club thinks will easily surpass Dalot within a season or two)

Yes, it's a tricky one, but I tend to agree.

I think the left footed options that we have - while younger - are all much more promising options as WB's (Dorgu, Amad, Leon).

Whereas while the two right footers (Dalot and Mazraoui) are more senior players, neither are great options as WB's. And so I feel it's that area that needs to be added to with a better first choice right-footed option.

That would still leave Dalot an understudy for either side, especially RWB, and Mazraoui an option for RCB.

 

[bond19821982]

Dorgu and Amass on the left.
Amad and Kamason on the right.

I am not sure if Amass is ready and this isn't a position we can try developing our kids. This is such a key players in Amorims style.

I am of the opinion that Dorgu isn't ready to start, yet.

 

[Faetheshire86]

I think Dorgu has done enough for us to plan next year with him as starting LWB. At his age, in an ideal world, you would have someone more experienced to come over the top of him, but I think we will need to settle for a backup. At RWB, I think we need a replacement for Dalot. Given his value, I don't think we can afford to keep him as a backup, which would mean we need a backup RWB.

With the financial situation the way it is, and the other positions we need to address, I don't see how we can bring in 3 new wingbacks, so we will need to lean heavily on our young players... thankfully we have a promising group coming through.

I'd look at the preseason as a bit of a try-out for Amass, Leon, Kamason and I would also throw Ethan Williams in there. From what I have seen he is having a good loan spell, he's athletic and excellent off either foot. If one or two of them could fill in as a squad option, it would be massive

 

[Remember the geese]

I am not sure if Amass is ready and this isn't a position we can try developing our kids. This is such a key players in Amorims style.

I am of the opinion that Dorgu isn't ready to start, yet.

I'm not so sure that we'll be signing a left wing-back. Right sided, perhaps. In that event, I'd rather use Amass as depth on the left than Dalot.

Dorgu most likely isn't ready to start if we want to win leagues immediately. However, seeing as we are playing the long game, I think we will persist with Dorgu as a starter.

 

[quadrant]

I'm not so sure that we'll be signing a left wing-back. Right sided, perhaps. In that event, I'd rather use Amass as depth on the left than Dalot.

Dorgu most likely isn't ready to start if we want to win leagues immediately. However, seeing as we are playing the long game, I think we will persist with Dorgu as a starter.

Agreed, Dorgu will play as a starter. We need to accept that we're not going to solve every problem this summer. We are certain to start next year with a few positions that are less than perfect. Dorgu isn't perfect, but Dorgu solves the LWB spot plenty enough that I expect us to stick with him and worry about other positions.

 

[dutchred]

Not sure I am in the minority here but I much prefer Amad as one of the 10s.

I think a tight sided wingback in a must this summer.

Kamason and Garnacho on the right ( Garnacho is better and lesss selfish on the right). Agree Amad is better as a second 10 alongside Bruno or as replacement for Bruno if he needs break

 

[dubplate warrior]

Dorgu and Amass on the left.
Amad and Kamason on the right.

He's not got a chance as a wingback. The physicality is night and day.

 

[Remember the geese]

He's not got a chance as a wingback. The physicality is night and day.

It's unfortunate. He isn't a player I would like to lose. I consider him to be technically better and more naturally talented than both Leon and Dorgu. The latter two are definitely ahead of him in terms of physicality though. I think Amass will go on to be a really good player.

 

[Charlie Foley]

I don't think it's crucial. Two of the League best "wing-back" in Robertson and Trent, are not physical monsters. They're doing fine. In the past, Evra and Cole were alright. Amad might work as RWB if he stays healthy and we have another good AM.

The crucial element should be on stamina and skill.

Stamina falls under athleticism?

 

[Red00012]

Like him he’s the first of a huge rebuild

 

[Marwood]

I'd like us to sign Cherki. Hence, why I'd use Amad at wing-back.

I don’t think Amad has the running power for the role.

 

[Remember the geese]

I don’t think Amad has the running power for the role.

Maybe. Although he has been terrific in that position.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Like everything about him apart from when he gets near goal. Whether its a pass or a shot he bottles it. Hopefully can be sorted.

Go on, what do you mean by ‘bottles it’? Most people use this as some sort of catch all term that means absolutely nothing. I’ve no idea what you think the impact of him ‘bottling it’ is?

 

[Marwood]

Maybe. Although he has been terrific in that position.

He's so talented I think he'd show good stuff anywhere on the pitch.

I just think when you have to marshall the entirety of one side of the pitch you need to be extremely athletic and durable. I'm not sure Amad is.

Dorgu is the kind of athlete I think you need ideally for that role.

 

[Oranges038]

Was watching the highlights again.

He certainly likes a shot, he's going to score a few belters.

 

[Ayoba]

Still can't believe he's 20! Incredible talent

 

[Remember the geese]

He's so talented I think he'd show good stuff anywhere on the pitch.

I just think when you have to marshall the entirety of one side of the pitch you need to be extremely athletic and durable. I'm not sure Amad is.

Dorgu is the kind of athlete I think you need ideally for that role.

I like the idea of having Amad at RWB because it allows you to cheat a bit and sneak in an extra attacking option. If we decide to use Amad as a 10, I'd like us to bring in a RWB who is a bit more naturally talented than Dorgu. Quenda would have been perfect obviously, but just someone who is more polished in a technical and creative sense than Dorgu.

 

[Mike Smalling]

Was watching the highlights again.

He certainly likes a shot, he's going to score a few belters.

He will get quite a few openings given how active he is going forward. Against Sociedad I wish he’d just put his foot through it, rather than trying to place though.

 

[Marwood]

I like the idea of having Amad at RWB because it allows you to cheat a bit and sneak in an extra attacking option. If we decide to use Amad as a 10, I'd like us to bring in a RWB who is a bit more naturally talented than Dorgu. Quenda would have been perfect obviously, but just someone who is more polished in a technical and creative sense than Dorgu.

Yeah agree. Important for that athleticism to technical ability balance.

It's such a demanding role though and Amad hasn't shown us yet he can go a full Prem season without a fairly serious injury.

 

[simplyared]

Go on, what do you mean by ‘bottles it’? Most people use this as some sort of catch all term that means absolutely nothing. I’ve no idea what you think the impact of him ‘bottling it’ is?

Nothing strange in saying that. New player who at present has zero goals and zero assists and needs to get some stats. He had plenty of opportunities in the Sociedad game to both score and assist but did neither. I'm looking at his actions in those situations and can see he looks a bit nervy.

 

[Remember the geese]

Yeah agree. Important for that athleticism to technical ability balance.

It's such a demanding role though and Amad hasn't shown us yet he can go a full Prem season without a fairly serious injury.

I'm assuming that Amad won't be the starting RWB next season. We obviously pursued Quenda for a reason, so logically, we will target someone else. I like what Dorgu offers, but we've been sold a dream with Quenda, so hopefully we are in for a similar type of player. There's just something special about a more refined technical option. A right sided Nuno Mendes would be a joy.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Nothing strange in saying that. New player who at present has zero goals and zero assists and needs to get some stats. He had plenty of opportunities in the Sociedad game to both score and assist but did neither. I'm looking at his actions in those situations and can see he looks a bit nervy.

A player who won a penalty and whose run got a player sent off. Be careful when you use stats. Those two things significantly helped us win the match.

 

[LeonDion]

Impact. Regardless of how it looks this player makes impact. Has had huge impact on entire side of pitch. Physicality, pace, aggression, desire and stamina. The will to keep going. How many times he goes from deep to furthest forward.

Currently probably player we will miss most when not available

 

[simplyared]

A player who won a penalty and whose run got a player sent off. Be careful when you use stats. Those two things significantly helped us win the match.

Unless you can start a new column for amounts of: "penalties won" and "getting players sent off" then it won't mean very much and won't figure on his CV. Anyway not really my point. You're getting away from the subject which had to do with his play in and around the opponents penalty box.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Unless you can start a new column for amounts of: "penalties won" and "getting players sent off" then it won't mean very much and won't figure on his CV. Anyway not really my point. You're getting away from the subject which had to do with his play in and around the opponents penalty box.

You brought up assists. Which is pointless. Look at his overall play and impact. Selective stats mean nothing. He hasn’t ‘bottled’ anything - that’s bang on point.

 

[NZT-One]

Maybe. Although he has been terrific in that position.

I think he has been very good but not due to the position. He is the only player in our team who looks like a somewhat modern attacker who uses his brain during games and is technical enough to take on players. In our team, this alone makes him stick out like a diamond with coal. Right now, he is a bit behind in terms of physicality which is why a wider position suits him better (just like SAF played young attackers on the wings first) but his future has to be more centrally. As others said, I don't think he has the physicality for the wingback position.