With injury to Martinez, surely Maz now goes back to CM, Dalot on right and Dorgu on left. I would not mind that. Maz has looked horrible at wingback position and Dalot has looked relatively better at RB.
Patrick Dorgu | 2024/25 Performances
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Let me put this here so that his salary wont be used against him when he plays poorly because he is a new young player.
He is on 40k a week.
Let me put this here so that his salary wont be used against him when he plays poorly because he is a new young player.
He is on 40k a week.
What’s relegation got to do with anything? If the player has enough about him it doesn’t matter where he comes from. We bought Keane from relegated Forest, Liverpool bought Robertson from relegated Hull etc. it’s just nonsense to say things like that.
I’d be very surprised if he doesn’t go straight in
I read somewhere that he’s on 30k a week
If we trust capology it's 32k a week, but 40k may also be true in case of bonuses.
It's still 3 times what he was getting at Lecce (he renewed in October), which is about expected when moving to a premier league big club.
It's still 3 times what he was getting at Lecce (he renewed in October), which is about expected when moving to a premier league big club.
Keane was one of the very best in the league, despite Forest’s relegation. My recollection is that Robertson took half a season or so to establish himself as Liverpool’s first choice (despite having significant experience in the league).
The nonsense is expecting a 20 year old kid, with limited experience at a poor team in a slightly weaker league, to come in and be our immediate saviour. We made that mistake with Hojlund and with Zirkzee and Dorgu hasn’t even reached their level in Italy. I was expecting we’d have learnt some lessons and would ease him in more gently.
Why? By the looks of things, Dorgu can actually play the position, which Dalot can’t.
Yeah pretty sure he will be straight in, as with Shaw injured we really don't have anyone who can play LWB properly. Dalot will go right I would think.
I mean it is clear as day that our 'wing backs' are not working well, in virtually every game, so it is an obvious area to try to improve.
I mean it is clear as day that our 'wing backs' are not working well, in virtually every game, so it is an obvious area to try to improve.
He may take time to settle, new country and he’s young.
But it’s got feck all to do with coming from a team battling relegation which is my point
Fair points, but no need for the 'expecting him to be an immediate saviour' exaggeration. No one player is expected to be that, let alone a young WB.
But it is expected that addressing our long standing left-footed LB problem would help with the balance and attacking threat on that side. And there was an expectation that any FB/WB we chose to pay £25m-£30m for in this window - instead of addressing the striker issue - would be coming in as a first team starter and not just as an understudy.
In a window where we've had to be frugal, and once again ignore the glaring lack of goals in our attack, why would we have chosen to spend £25m on an understudy? We've clearly signed what we intend to be a first team player, so having the expectation that he'll be a starter isn't putting undue pressure on him to fix all the clubs many, many issues - just the LWB one.
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LWB in Amorim's Sporting had the most assists in the whole team, seemingly an important position in his system.
Ye but that’s when they had an actual ST. Assists comes from setting up your attackers but then it’s all about there finishing. So he’ll be lucky to get more than 2 assist.
He will play well first game, then utterly shite in the following few and you'll all write him off by March.
Yep sadly he has to hit the ground running from game 1 Dalot can't play another game at LWB.
But not you! What will you do?
I think Zirkzee scores about as many as his xG suggests he should and Hojlund scores more. Their finishing is okay/good (on the rare occasions we get to see it) it's their all round game that those two specifically let us down with.
I think it will be interesting to see a left footed player on the left side again.
Probably pick up a stupid injury after 5 minutes and we'll be back to Dalot again.
Probably pick up a stupid injury after 5 minutes and we'll be back to Dalot again.
Considering he's supposed to be 6ft 1in, he looked tiny compared to 6ft 3in heaven in the welcome video. I guess his height is slightly exaggerated.
Is anyone actually expecting him to be a saviour, or is it more people are hoping it will offer a more balanced team?
Jokes about him being a saviour aside, If he could just add some balance and put in some decent attacking and defensive displays then it should make a difference. I don’t think anyone is expecting a Bruno Fernandes signing.
Still not keen on our RWB options but I’m hoping he makes us better.
All our hope and pressure is now on this lad
I've already written him off, based off a quick glance through a YouTube comp.
Gyokeres didn't exactly tear it up before he got to Sporting.
But that wasn’t the talking point though. The guy said sporting LWB got the most assist. And i said that’s because they had someone who finished them of. It’s clear that the Wing backs should be getting tons of assist and even a few goals in this system. But we don’t have that type of player. And setting chances up is good but if they can’t get finished of then you ain’t getting the assist stats to your name.
It's hard to be bullish on either Hojlund or Zirkzee but I'm hoping that with Dorgu in the side, that means we'll have one more player that has more of the mentality and ability to progress our play (instead of Mazraoui as a wing back), which might take some responsibility off our striker's shoulders to be involved in progression. Hojlund can get back to what he's better at which is running the channels and finishing chances (though whether he can learn how to make better runs in the box and link up with Dorgu/Amad/Mainoo/Garnacho is still to be seen). Zirkzee on the other hand doesn't seem to be as helped by Dorgu, unless he's the one holding up to allow the likes of Dorgu and Amad to ghost in from wing back.
Then again, all this is predicated on Dorgu even being able to replicate his skill and confidence on the ball that he showed in Serie A, which is not at all guaranteed when adjusting to the Prem.
Hope to see him get some minutes vs Leicester and into the starting XI against Spurs.
With a proper LWB, we can move Dalot back to RWB where he undoubtedly produces his best football. Maz back to CB for some build-up from the back...
Hoping this will be a catalyst. Dorgu doesn't even have to be great to change our style of play, he just needs to play his role.
Onana
Maz...De Ligt...Yoro
Dalot...Ugarte...Mainoo...Dorgu
Amad...Bruno
Hojland
At the start of the season, I'd have said this is a pretty decent lineup! Nowadays it's hard to tell who will show up
With a proper LWB, we can move Dalot back to RWB where he undoubtedly produces his best football. Maz back to CB for some build-up from the back...
Hoping this will be a catalyst. Dorgu doesn't even have to be great to change our style of play, he just needs to play his role.
Onana
Maz...De Ligt...Yoro
Dalot...Ugarte...Mainoo...Dorgu
Amad...Bruno
Hojland
Very excited by this signing. I think he plays straight away but I have a feeling it will be RWB rather than left, Amorim tends to go that way. I’m afraid Dalot is stinking the place on the left until the end of the season.
I like this team
Onana
Maz...Yoro ...Heaven
Collyear...Ugarte...Bruno...Dorgu
Amad...Garnacho
Obi
Relegation
we are not going to get relegated and this team is buiding for next season
Why would we sign a LWB to play him on the right? Makes no sense. It allows us to play Dalot in his preferred position and maz at RCB where he’s been doing ok.
God i hope he's good because if he isn't, there's a nasty name just waiting in the wings...
Redemption
No one in the thread is expecting him to be a saviour. Having an actual left footed play who can play the position Amorim wants and needs will improve the team though.
I'd say besides attack, the left side has been our biggest weakness. Him and Kobbie on the left would be worth a go.
looking forward to seeing him in action. Left wing back is and has been a problem for us for a long time
He isn’t exclusively a LWB, can play RWB and him and Amad on the same wing would theorically be very strong attacking wise (cutting inside to shot is more difficult on the left for a lefty + better for 1vs1), they can switch positions easily during the game. Dalot staying on the left allow Garnacho to go outside like he is more comfortable.
To be honest it’s guesswork, so many combinations really.
We are paying sensible wages, what is this sorcery.