Two time champions league winning great.
Owen Hargreaves | 2010/11 Performances
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Two time champions league winning great.
He'd be a wonderful asset, given our midfield weaknesses at present
Absense can make the heart grow fonder and he is over rated by some but he is a very very good player and can play in a number of positions.
Also, he can take free kicks!
TBH I don't think United have really seen his very best, his first season was blighted by injury. When he did play he showed his worth, and whilst like others I fear he may never be the player he once was, I do hope he can come back and add value to the squad. So whilst it's understandable to be questioning his ability I think we should perhaps wait and see what he can contribute when he's back playing before judging him.
I'm sure if it came to it, we could arrange one off matches for him, or possibly play the Academy lads vs Reserves to give him something a bit more intense than a training session.
I've forgotten if he can take corners, but how fecking good would it be if we had a decent corner-taker? 
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I think he is far too underrated by many
Wrong thread I know, but an update on Carrick too.
Idiot.
It's a fair question. I like Hargreaves though and I think he could come back as a starter for us, at right back. God knows the competition there is not all that. Unless we're talking quantity.
I don't think he's a right back at all. He can do a job there, but he takes a very safety first attitude and you can tell he's not really a defender in the proper sense.
What is all this right back stuff!. We have Nev, Rafael, O'Shea and Brown. It is well recognised that Rafael is going to be our long term RB, so why add OH into the mix. He is a holding midfielder, end of.
A fit and on form OH does something none of our other CM's do - offer protection to the back four.
A fit and on form OH does something none of our other CM's do - offer protection to the back four.
Would give my right arm for a fully fit, 100% Hargreaves in our midfield right now. I've said time and time again that we've missed him.
Lets not get into that again.
I don't think he's had a single great game for us in central midfield. A few okay to goodish performances but that's about it.
I thought he looked better as a makeshift right midfielder, in the poor man's Beckham sense.
The thing is, even if he is fit to play, what's the best we can hope for given how bad his knees obviously are? 25 games a season? It could be the same as Ledley King and he's just not important enough for us to write off huge chunks of his seasons. I can see him being allowed to move on if he doesn't play quite a few games this seaon, as I'm sure someone would take a gamble on him.
No it was a silly question. The guy's a class act. Without question one of the best footballers at our club.
He can perform in big games and is twice a champions league winner. He was probably England's best player in both the 2002 and 2006 World cups, and can take the best set-pieces in our squad.
He's quality on the ball, a great tackler, quite pacey, can shoot and he's arguably the most passionate and resilient player we have (up there with Rooney for me).
Yes, 'his best is really that great'.
He can play on the right well too. (See 2008 Champions League final.)
To be fair calling him resilient is a bit rich at this point
I'm talking about him at his best.. That entire post referred to him at his best.
His knee problem is different to King's though. King has basically no cartilage left in his knees. A fundamental, structural, problem which precludes playing football more than once a week, if that.
I dunno a whole lot about tendinitis but I don't think it leaves lasting structural deficiencies once the inflammation dies down. The 18 million pound question is whether or not it will flare up again but if not, he should be able to play as regularly as anyone else. If it does flare up again, he might as well be sold for glue.
One of the best footballers at the club?
Steady on. He's done nothing to earn that description while playing in a United shirt.
Actually he can play on both flanks and in center midfield.
Yeah, but not as a first choice.
I don't think people have much use for glue that only works for a while and then just stops.
Aye, my comparison wasn't based on their injuries rather how often they could be available as a result.
I'm still not convinced, tbh. All the opinion at the time seemed to be that this patellar tendinitis isn't cure-able, as such, but can be managed in certain ways. Then suddenly he went to Steadman (I think) and it seemed to be stated as a fact that he could fix the knees more-or-less completely. Now clearly he's a surgeon at the top of his game and I'm neither of those things, but I remain to be convinced that they've put him back together, at least at the level we need him.*
But obviously it is a case of fingers crossed.
* I may have some of those facts wrong, but that's how I remember it.
And up until this season Berbatov had?
I reiterate, at his best, he's one of the best players at the club.
Some kind of joke?
I just saw him running on SSN
Good news. Seems Fergie is really positive about Hargreaves after a long time.
Neville is past it, Brown never plays, O'Shea is no more of a right back than Hargreaves is, and Rafael has no intellience. If we don't need him in other positions, and he is better at RB than other players who have it as a first choice position, then he should play there.
A fit and on form Carrick does that, a fit and on form Fletcher does that, Gibson does that somewhat, so does Scholes. Our defence was quite good with these players protecting it in 2008/09.
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Hope he manages a bit more than a header against Stoke this time. I'm being optimistic here, but I wonder if we'll see him on the bench for the West Brom game? (Which is on the 16th October, if I'm not mistaken). They'd be a good team for him to come back against, one of those teams that likes to play "the right way," and probably wouldn't try to kick him in the kneecaps the minute he stepped on the pitch.
I'm just grateful Sunderland and Cattermole are a bit too soon for him.
Hope he manages a bit more than a header against Stoke this time. I'm being optimistic here, but I wonder if we'll see him on the bench for the West Brom game? (Which is on the 16th October, if I'm not mistaken). They'd be a good team for him to come back against, one of those teams that likes to play "the right way," and probably wouldn't try to kick him in the kneecaps the minute he stepped on the pitch.
I'm just grateful Sunderland and Cattermole are a bit too soon for him.
I'm so excited by this, the longer he's been out the better player I seem to remember him being!
I'm so excited by this, the longer he's been out the better player I seem to remember him being!
Indeed. Another year out and he'll be Maradona.
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Hope he manages a bit more than a header against Stoke this time. I'm being optimistic here, but I wonder if we'll see him on the bench for the West Brom game? (Which is on the 16th October, if I'm not mistaken). They'd be a good team for him to come back against, one of those teams that likes to play "the right way," and probably wouldn't try to kick him in the kneecaps the minute he stepped on the pitch.
I'm just grateful Sunderland and Cattermole are a bit too soon for him.
When are the International games?
I say keep him back until after them games, otherwise he'll get called up and pick up an injury with them knowing our luck.
I think they're the week after that WBA game. England only play in one of the match days though, being the odd team out in the other.
Owen Hargreaves? Who's that?
Probably better than the ones we've got there now.
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