I'm sure all involved will seriously look at all that before any decisions are made, either way we're just going to have to tag along with what ever decision they come too. I'd be confident myself that if he is included that it could be looked at as a major plus for us & that he will have a role to play.
Owen Hargreaves | 2010/11 Performances
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I'm sure all involved will seriously look at all that before any decisions are made, either way we're just going to have to tag along with what ever decision they come too. I'd be confident myself that if he is included that it could be looked at as a major plus for us & that he will have a role to play.
If he stays with the club throughout the summer and manages to get a good pre season under his belt then I'd say a pay as you play offer in August would be worth the risk.
Now there's a thought.
Thats a good point. If I were the club and interested in keeping him, Id say that they should put him through a rigourous pre season and see how he does in the games over in the US. If that works out, only then offer him a pay as you play deal. See how that work out for 1 year.
I would not be surprised if they decided to cancel his contract. You have to wonder whether he will be able to play again on a regular basis.
yeah but read the post above yours, man make a good point.
Exactly, It would seem strange to give up completely after the expense of all the wages and rehab.
Can United see how he does in the summer before signing a contract? Would assume he'd have to have some sort of contract just to do that - with insurance and such.
Contract would end before pre-season training starts so can't see them waiting till August to offer him one. The shoulder injury might keep him from playing any games rest of the season because it is the run in and there aren't any games he can just kind of play - all important games from here on out. But, they'll still be able to assess his fitness before his contract expires.
Contract would end before pre-season training starts so can't see them waiting till August to offer him one. The shoulder injury might keep him from playing any games rest of the season because it is the run in and there aren't any games he can just kind of play - all important games from here on out. But, they'll still be able to assess his fitness before his contract expires.
I'm with you on that, but this has got to be his last chance. We've been far more patient than most clubs would be in the same situation.
I don't see why not. You get trialists playing for teams throughout the summer months in friendlies. Don't forget that David Beckham was training with Spurs during the winter this season too.
It's just my opinion and it's unlikely to happen as Utd will probably sort it out before August.
Even with trialees and the Beckham case am sure they had to have some kind of paperwork in place.
But, then it is on Hargreaves then if he is to wait till August to get a new contract and what happens if he doesn't? That doesn't leave him much time to find a new club. Whatever happens - I think both parties will decide sooner than later.
But, then it is on Hargreaves then if he is to wait till August to get a new contract and what happens if he doesn't? That doesn't leave him much time to find a new club. Whatever happens - I think both parties will decide sooner than later.
Hargreaves should show the club some loyalty and sign a pay as you play contract. It'll be a kick in the teeth if he goes to some other club after doing feck for the last three years.
I'd just release Hargreaves at the end of the season and give the squad place to someone who has not been a complete crock for the last three seasons and for a fair percentage of his first full season. I don't see the point of giving him any form of new contract bearing in mind his injury record(which is awful) and the fact that no one knows what player he is going to return as.
Hire him as a physio.
Nah on a serious note, I wish him good luck. Id like to see him stay, but on a limited contract that sees him paid the basic min wage for a footballer but then paid on appearances / performances. Give him a chance and something to aim for. If he cant get back next season, let him move on and try a different environment (or retire?)
Nah on a serious note, I wish him good luck. Id like to see him stay, but on a limited contract that sees him paid the basic min wage for a footballer but then paid on appearances / performances. Give him a chance and something to aim for. If he cant get back next season, let him move on and try a different environment (or retire?)
If he has been performing well in training prior to this injury and if his knee problems are behind him then i think its likely he'll continue to work with the club over the next couple of months (even after his contract expires) and if he's had no further setbacks by July or August (after a couple of pre season games) possibly getting offered a 1 year pay as you play deal.
Our centre midfield in the next couple of seasons is likely to go through a bit of a transitional phase with the looming retirements of Scholes and Giggs and promising young players like Pogba, Tunnicliffe and Morrison. The young players are probably another year away at least from being ready so Hargreaves situation could potentially help this period of transition with a 1 year deal, and hopefully another year if all went well. A big if!
Our centre midfield in the next couple of seasons is likely to go through a bit of a transitional phase with the looming retirements of Scholes and Giggs and promising young players like Pogba, Tunnicliffe and Morrison. The young players are probably another year away at least from being ready so Hargreaves situation could potentially help this period of transition with a 1 year deal, and hopefully another year if all went well. A big if!
Why would it be strange?
It saves further wages and rehab. There's a line and it was crossed a long time ago.
We gave him every chance, any other club would probably have turfed him out a while ago. It just isnt going to happen
The EPL is very physical and we've got the 25 player rule to deal with. I think that it would be wiser to just loan him to Twente and send some physio monitoring what's going on. If he does well, then next year he'll return to OT.
Not a bad idea at all, that.
He must feel horrible. I can't imagine being in his shoes. Sometimes some people even feel shame if they are being paid for something they are not producing. I hope he is well mentally as well.
I'm sure he'll accept a pay as you play, but whose to say it will be offered? In the 25-men squad, the question as far as United are concerned is bigger than the money. It's whether we can afford to give him a squad place.
That is not up to him now is it? If he is offered a contract, then he will take it but we are not going to offer him one. So it is not his fault if he moves to another club.
Agreed. I think he could find it tough to find another club if we don't renew, even though there is some possibility he could come back to a regular playing standard given that his more recent injury issues have been unrelated to his major one.
I think it could do him good to be taken out of the firing line of the first team squad at United if we do offer him something, because the pressure of getting back playing at PL standard is probably not helping his rehabilitation. Giving him a one year basic pay contract and sending him to Twente or some other team in a second or third tier league and telling him to just relax and ease in to it could be beneficial for both clubs and for Hargreaves himself.
Then again, he'll be 31 at the next earliest opportunity to add him into the 25 man squad, and it may not even be viable at that point. A player of his style probably wouldn't expect to play too far into his 30s, since he relies so much on high energy levels. United should be able to take a good guess on whether or not he's likely to be able to give us many more years even if he does get back to something approaching his top level over the course of the next season, and may decide that even in a best case scenario it's not really worth it.
That is not up to him now is it? If he is offered a contract, then he will take it but we are not going to offer him one. So it is not his fault if he moves to another club.
You could see how frustrated and angry he was when he had to go off against Wolves, I wouldn't be surprised if part of the reason behind his latest injuries are down to him pushing himself too hard in a bid to impress and return.
How can you not love him ? 
And reports saying he could go to the MLS or else that he is done.
Hope he makes a fool of everyone.
And reports saying he could go to the MLS or else that he is done.
Hope he makes a fool of everyone
.Everyone? I've never given up hope.
How can you not love him ?
And reports saying he could go to the MLS or else that he is done.
Hope he makes a fool of everyone
I still got nervous watching that.
How can you not love him ?
And reports saying he could go to the MLS or else that he is done.
Hope he makes a fool of everyone
That would be an incredibly stupid move for any MLS team - though I do understand he's a Canadian and that is attractive to some team.
Still, stupid.
It's pretty easy to not love him.
I hate attitudes like this. It's not his fault he keeps getting injured, in fact, by all accounts, he's been working his arse off for over a year to get back playing with us.
me too. it must be hell for him, i'm amazed he still has a positive attitude
He has my support as a United player but I don't see what is particularly lovable about him in this situation. He's unlucky, we're unlucky and my guess is any other player would be working his socks off to get his career back on track especially after they've been given support like we have.
It's not a question of him being particularly loveable, it's just that you said it was easy not to love him.
I was exaggerating slightly but he isn't one of our players I've found hard to not love. Hernandez is one of those whose exuberance, attitude etc is simply infectious. Vidic with his no nonsense and putting his body on the line defending. Hargreaves has been a United player for too little time for me. He had a good end to the 07/08 campaign but it's just too little time unless one completely takes his chances by storm like Chicharito has.
i know what you mean, but he's had such bad luck. I can't help but feel sorry for him, and he's just the sort of player we could do with , had he been fit.
Wasn't wearing a sling or anything last night, so he's clearly on the mend (well as much as Hargreaves is ever on the mend).
I reckon that if we wrap up the league against Blackburn (this is assuming we beat Chelsea and then either beat or draw Blackburn) he'll make an appearance of some kind against Blackpool at OT
I reckon that if we wrap up the league against Blackburn (this is assuming we beat Chelsea and then either beat or draw Blackburn) he'll make an appearance of some kind against Blackpool at OT
And then give him 2 months to PROVE he can stay fit before deciding on a payp contract.
Has apparently been offered a one year pay as you play deal according to a bit of buzz going around twitter at the moment.
Nothing official yet.
Nothing official yet.
He should accept it if he has any kind of morals.
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