Have you got some insider info?
Owen Hargreaves | 2009/10 Performances
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Have you got some insider info?
About what?
Hargreaves starting, I immediately thought that he was in the starting line up when you posted "here we go" but clearly he's not so never mind.
Uber-excited ja
Didn't see him when they showed some of the squad arriving in the dressing room, he could have been at the back though 
Hows he going. I assume his training with the first team or getting very close to it.
So much for SAF saying he might be in the squad against Chelsea eh?
Basically he'll not play this season.
Basically he'll not play this season.
SAF says a lot of things.
Is he back in the team yet ?
Can't he just tell us the truth?
I have had doubts about Hargo. Beginning to think that instead of pulling him out of the reserves to train with the Ist team, SAF has realised that he aint coming back anytime soon if at all, he would have benefited from the reserve match tonight if he was fit
Exactly, I knew as soon as they said he was pulled out to train with the first team it was bull shit.
hmmmm
I never realised in all the excitement of the day that he was on the bench for the chavs
Wasn't on the bench unfortunately, just counted in the squad for the match.
It's always tough at this point of the season, trying to get a player who's been out for that long back into the team. As long as we're fighting for the title still, assuming there isn't a crisis in a position Hargreaves can play, I think it very unlikely he'll feature
Agreed.
The last thing we want to do his aggravate his injury before the summer. With a long summer to rest and a full pre season hopefully he can come into next season on a level par with everyone else fitness wise.
Yep. No need to risk anything this late in the year, especially as Gibson is a viable option.
Ive always said there is no need to risk him. Let him have a full preseason and be back fighting for the first team in August.
But it pisses me off that SAF lies about it constantly, wouldn't it just be better to say "we think it's better if Owen has a full pre-season with us and comes back as strong as possible for next season" ?
Why the hell SAF lead people into believing that he'd be on the bench for Chelsea is a mystery to me. After not appearing on the bench for another 2 weeks and not appearing in another reserve game, people start making their own conclusions, usually negative ones with regards to his injury situation.
Why the hell SAF lead people into believing that he'd be on the bench for Chelsea is a mystery to me. After not appearing on the bench for another 2 weeks and not appearing in another reserve game, people start making their own conclusions, usually negative ones with regards to his injury situation.
That is what people said at the end of last season. Since then his introduction date has been postponed from September to August next season now.
I think any one who is over optimistic about seeing Hargo in his pomp for us again will be in for a disappointment.
The difference is that he is now in the matchday squads. He is, technically, uninjured. He just isn't match fit.
I don't expect him to return to his old self but I think he could play in a less dynamic holding role in order to put a bit less stress on his knee.
Isn't that pretty much what he has just said? I certainly took it as being implied.
There's no need for Hargreaves to play in reserve games other than to build up match fitness. With 4 games left in the season and a whole host of midfielders available there isn't much point trying to get him match fit. It's not as if we want him going to the World Cup, is it?
The most concerning thing in that piece is that Fergie says the midfield isnt a concern!
Exactly. And it was ony a token jesture i bet.
He is poised to return in September/December/March/April in the year 2009/2010/2011
take your pick.
take your pick.
Well no not exactly, he said "it's difficult to say when he will be back".
I would love the stone cold truth.
Agree with you on the second point, as an Englishman I was desperate for him to go the the WC but only if he'd have been playing since Jan/Feb. No way in a million years would I want him to go now, better to get him a full pre-season and come back next year with the bit between his teeth.
Possibly because he himself wasn't sure whether he would've used him much this year. With our league hopes dimming by the match, it looks like he's correctly decided to bring him back after a full summer of training.
What would be the point of him playing this season at this stage?
Let him build up his knees in the summer and return after a good preseason, ready to go.
Let him build up his knees in the summer and return after a good preseason, ready to go.
Confidence. If he can come off 2 games unscathed at the tail end of this season then that puts them out of the way next season.
No reason that can't be accomplished in the reserve matches. The movements during match play are identical.
I've no doubt that will be the press release pretty much word for word. Reality, though, is that next season will be the same as this season for him. If he's still here.
Such a shame.
If that was how they felt why did they pull him out of the reserves to "train with the first team." It's not a step backwards. Honest.
Reserve matches are not premier league matches. If they were then we'd have more outstanding youth talents making the grade at this club.
Who knows. I get the impression Fergie has been vascillating on whether to actually bring him back for the title run in, or not. The fact that our title hopes are dimming suggests that any need for him to come back this year is all but gone.
Or now could be the perfect time to bring him back as there is less pressure on the games.
Either way it's all pie in the sky. He might make 1 or 2 appearances but he'll never be back to how he was.
Of course they're not, but the movement and competition are still there, which is what he needs. Looks like Fergie made the right call, as they're no need to risk him as an experiment. Let him come back fresh next year.
Yes but is it more physical or faster than the pl, nope. So I think there would still be lingering doubts. I think playing 2 pl matches now would stand him in great stead to train and perform in pre-season without those doubts in his head because he has already done it.
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