Out of control dogs/dog attacks

One thing that would help is speaking about the reality of the pit bull/bully breed of dogs. There is this idea that every dog attack comes down to crappy owners but its not true. Some breeds are just not for beginners. Pit bulls and the like need owners who need to know what these dogs are about and are able to handle that. No matter how sweet the dog is, there will always be a risk since these dogs were bred for fighting

BTW, seeing an angry pitbull is one of the scariest and impressive things out there. It's like a flip of the switch into total aggression and almost nothing will scare them off or slow them down.
 
shamans said:
One thing that would help is speaking about the reality of the pit bull/bully breed of dogs. There is this idea that every dog attack comes down to crappy owners but its not true. Some breeds are just not for beginners. Pit bulls and the like need owners who need to know what these dogs are about and are able to handle that. No matter how sweet the dog is, there will always be a risk since these dogs were bred for fighting

BTW, seeing an angry pitbull is one of the scariest and impressive things out there. It's like a flip of the switch into total aggression and almost nothing will scare them off or slow them down.
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Yep. This is it. Their owners are always trying to do PR for them instead of just accepting that they own a dangerous dog breed literally historically bred as a fighter dog. Also, apparently they have a higher pain threshold than almost all other breeds and will fight and not let go til death which is why nothing will slow them down.
 
Sara125 said:
Yep. This is it. Their owners are always trying to do PR for them instead of just accepting that they own a dangerous dog breed literally historically bred as a fighter dog. Also, apparently they have a higher pain threshold than almost all other breeds and will fight and not let go til death which is why nothing will slow them down.
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It's true. Reason they are used for dog fights unfortunately.
 
Pit bulls, XL bullies, American bulldogs and their ilk are not pets, they are dangerous beasts with a lethal prey drive and immense strength that will not stop an attack even when being beaten senseless.

They should be completely banned and be illegal to breed, let them die out.

Anyone who defends those types of dogs is scum and has blood on their hands.
 
Giant Midget said:
Pit bulls, XL bullies, American bulldogs and their ilk are not pets, they are dangerous beasts with a lethal prey drive and immense strength that will not stop an attack even when being beaten senseless.

They should be completely banned and be illegal to breed, let them die out.

Anyone who defends those types of dogs is scum and has blood on their hands.
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Glanced at the threads on the main page and briefly read the title as Out of control dog attacks giant midget.
 
Dog attacks: 34% increase recorded by police in England and Wales

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64798162

The number of dog attacks recorded by police in England and Wales has risen by more than a third in the past five years, a BBC investigation has found.
Last year, there were nearly 22,000 cases of out-of-control dogs causing injury. In 2018, there were just over 16,000.
The UK's dog population is estimated to have risen by only 15% in that time.
Police say they've seen more reports of dangerous dogs as a result of specific work by specialist officers.
The National Police Chiefs' Council (NPCC) says forces across the UK have been focusing on attacks.
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I don't like muscle dogs at all even if the majority are lovely. The damage they can do if something happens isn't worth the risk of allowing them as pets imo.

Although even IRW Setters can savage people.


And by savage I mean lick to death.
 
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I've seen a video of a pitbull fight a tiger. The awful person chained a tiger up and had it's pitbull fight it. It died instantly to a paw swipe from the tiger obviously, but it just goes to show how twisted and morally fecked it is that we managed to breed a dog that has absolutely no qualms with going one on one with a fecking tiger! German shepherd, rottweiler, doberman (other "tough" breeds who attract a certain type of owner) would all run a mile if they seen a tiger but a pitbull actually wants to fight it!
This breed has zero self preservation instinct. It will attack a horse and despite the horse kicking the shit out of it will repeatedly come back for more. What good is a dog like that to modern society?
 
There's two sides to being a responsible dog owner. One is looking after and caring for the dog, and the other is being aware and considerate of other people, and a lot of dog owners (i mean a noticeably significant number these days) seem to completely disregard the second, which is highly annoying when the dog itself is harmless, but when it potentially isn't harmless becomes a much bigger problem.

Owner invites confrontation by being a selfish bellend with a pet that can easily agitate people or make them anxious, and then that in turn can agitate the dog, which at the end of the day is a dog. A non complex creature who's only viable solution to problem situations or stress is to either bark at or bite things.

I remember reading a story on here where someone took a potentially dangerous dog to a kids party, left it unattended, and then it bit a child, and people in the thread were putting the blame on the parents. Anyone who isn't a complete and utter tosser wouldn't take a dog that might bite a child to a fecking kids party and the fact this is/was lost on a lot of people is quite concerning.

Not sure if banning certain dog breeds, restricting ownership or something in-between is the answer but probably something has to happen.
 
I don't believe millions/billions of lives getting enjoyment out of dogs is worth one human life. But as a start countries that still haven't banned pitbulls and their likes could do that.
 
People should get screened better before buying dogs. Many people are simply very immature and irresponsible. The dogs are almost never the problem.
 
wangyu said:
People should get screened better before buying dogs. Many people are simply very immature and irresponsible. The dogs are almost never the problem.
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Some breeds are not trainable. There's a reason military dogs are German Shepherds, Malinoises and Dobermans. They will exercise self restraint and control despite being fearless and literally trained to kill. Pitbull breeds will not. Its got nothing to do with the owners in many cases.
 
11101 said:
Some breeds are not trainable. There's a reason military dogs are German Shepherds, Malinoises and Dobermans. They will exercise self restraint and control despite being fearless and literally trained to kill. Pitbull breeds will not. Its got nothing to do with the owners in many cases.
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My father has Rottweilers (also a terrible reputation) and they’re the sweetest dogs imaginable but you absolutely have to be careful when taking them for a walk. They are very strong and it is not advisable for a woman to walk with them.
I took the dog for a stroll many times and in my opinion the biggest problem is dog owners letting their dog of the leash. I have been confronted several times by loose running dogs and it is always trouble.
They are wild animals, I would never let them go freely. It is a bit of male macho behavior “the dog does what i want and comes back to me with a faint whistle”. It is wrong behavior, things can go south very fast.
I have no idea about pittbulls though but having been around dogs all my life I doubt they can‘t be trained.
 
wangyu said:
My father has Rottweilers (also a terrible reputation) and they’re the sweetest dogs imaginable but you absolutely have to be careful when taking them for a walk. They are very strong and it is not advisable for a woman to walk with them.
I took the dog for a stroll many times and in my opinion the biggest problem is dog owners letting their dog of the leash. I have been confronted several times by loose running dogs and it is always trouble.
They are wild animals, I would never let them go freely. It is a bit of male macho behavior “the dog does what i want and comes back to me with a faint whistle”. It is wrong behavior, things can go south very fast.
I have no idea about pittbulls though but having been around dogs all my life I doubt they can‘t be trained.
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Rottweilers weren't bred to increase their aggression though.
 
MiceOnMeth said:
I've seen a video of a pitbull fight a tiger. The awful person chained a tiger up and had it's pitbull fight it. It died instantly to a paw swipe from the tiger obviously, but it just goes to show how twisted and morally fecked it is that we managed to breed a dog that has absolutely no qualms with going one on one with a fecking tiger! German shepherd, rottweiler, doberman (other "tough" breeds who attract a certain type of owner) would all run a mile if they seen a tiger but a pitbull actually wants to fight it!
This breed has zero self preservation instinct. It will attack a horse and despite the horse kicking the shit out of it will repeatedly come back for more. What good is a dog like that to modern society?
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Yeah I personally could never see such a video but I agree. I’ve had the misfortune of talking to fighting dog owners in Asia and they constantly look for this attribute. They call it the “game” in a dog. It’s tendency to just get stuck in and not let go.
 
wangyu said:
People should get screened better before buying dogs. Many people are simply very immature and irresponsible. The dogs are almost never the problem.
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Your last sentence isn’t really true in my experience. Some dogs are 100% the problem and they end up in shelters only for other naive folks to get them thinking they’ll just be fine in a house.

I would agree often it’s the owners and that ranges from cnut owners to well intentioned naive owners that get over aggressive dogs and don’t know how to treat them.

Honestly dogs aren’t so different to us. Just like there are humans failed by society some humans are just violent and aggressive
 
@shamans true the naive owners are a problem that is why there should be a screening. I remember many people bought dogs during the pandemic, once that was over they turned them to shelters. The dogs can’t tell us what kind of impact this has on them. People should think before they act, don’t buy a dog overnight.
People in an apartment for example should not get a German Sheppard, these are dogs for young active people.

There are so many dogs in shelters and most of them are there because the owners are irresponsible or uninformed.

Anyway I have no history with a problem dog so I don’t really know but yes each dog is a different individual and some perhaps have a natural tendency to be aggressive, they should have stern and disciplined owners, none of them deserve to live their lives in shelters.
 
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YouOnlyLiveTwice said:
I don't believe millions/billions of lives getting enjoyment out of dogs is worth one human life. But as a start countries that still haven't banned pitbulls and their likes could do that.
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Not to mention the massive impact on the climate and environment.

I'm going to try to pursuade my kids that ants and bees are much cooler than cats and dogs.
 
wangyu said:
@shamans true the naive owners are a problem that is why there should be a screening. I remember many people bought dogs during the pandemic, once that was over they turned them to shelters. The dogs can’t tell us what kind of impact this has on them. People should think before they act, don’t buy a dog overnight.
People in an apartment for example should not get a German Sheppard, these are dogs for young active people.

There are so many dogs in shelters and most of them are there because the owners are irresponsible or uninformed.

Anyway I have no history with a problem dog so I don’t really know but yes each dog is a different individual and some perhaps have a natural tendency to be aggressive, they should have stern and disciplined owners, none of them deserve to live their lives in shelters.
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I more or less agree. I personally think screening is a bit extreme but we should work on spreading awareness or at least have a list of animal abuse offenders that aren’t allowed pets.

Still I’d say not every aggressive dog incident points to the owner. Especially when it comes to certain breeds that are more prone to attacking say smaller dogs

Lastly I think it’s really irresponsible ownership to not Leah’s your dog in a crowded area or busy street. I feel it comes from some weird “dog whisperer” complex some have. It’s dangerous to the dog on a busy street with cars and other dogs and what not. Many incidents could be avoided if dogs are leashed where needed
 
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Feels like there's a big rise in the number of dog maulings/deaths recently in the UK
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It’s genuinely scary. As a recent dad of a baby girl i’m always on edge with dogs in parks that aren’t leashed up. There’s been too many horror stories in too short a time to not be.
 
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Dogs like pit bulls and the various versions of them that are "legal" to own should be banned and in reality anyone owning one should have it removed irregardless of how much of a "nice" boy the dog is. Any dogs with lock jaws or that have been bred to relentlessly attack have no place in society.

Would probably go as far as to say that guard dogs such as German Shepherds, Dobermans, Rottweilers etc should require a licence to own.

It actually doesn't make any sense that people are allowed to just casually walk with animals that are bred to fight and kill.
 
Puppies during covid weren't properly socialised. That and the proliferation of bully type dogs.

I wish people would stop talking about 'prey drive' when discussing dangerous dogs. It's got nothing to do with anything.
 
Dogs that have been bred for blood sports aren't pets. Should be banned or require strict licences.
 
I hate all those morons who post pics and videos of their 'family dogs' with babies and toddlers expecting validation and those "aw, look how cute!" replies. It's always their dog that are not like the others and would never hurt a fly. Completely irresponsible. The law needs to come down harder on dog owners.

When my kids were younger, I banned them from ever going to my partner's sister's house as she had a couple of big Alsatians. Was not prepared to take the risk.
 


No prizes for identifying the breed. One day we will accept that it is not simply the ‘owner’ if it can get the shit kicked out of it while someone’s smaller dog/toddler is in its jaws and it not budge half an inch.
 
I don’t believe it’s just the owner when it comes to certain breeds. It requires an owner to be responsible and have a muzzle on them when they are out. That’s on the owner. Secondly; that’s the dogs primary nature. I wouldn’t have one as a pet
 
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No prizes for identifying the breed. One day we will accept that it is not simply the ‘owner’ if it can get the shit kicked out of it while someone’s smaller dog/toddler is in its jaws and it not budge half an inch.
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Dogs have been selectively bred since the first wolf was domesticated for various purposes. That breed was crafted to fight to the death in dog fights. Nothing else. May as well have a pet hyena and take that for a walk.
 
Pitbulls need to disappear, or to have very strict licensing and being banned from public spaces. Before anyone attempts the "it's just bad training" shit, it's not. It's a very dangerous breed that leads the way of dog attacks by a country mile.

They shouldn't exist, they're an extremely dangerous animal.
 
Solius said:
Yeah does seem to be an alarming amount of times where someone has fallen over and the dog has just started attacking them. Quite a few people getting killed by their dogs after having seizures as well.
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This is why these aggressive dogs attack little kids (apart from their size). Little kids move in unexpected ways and the dog is triggered. I had a sweet tiny girl sit with me yesterday when I was out with our tiny Chihuahua (3kg), who loves the attention of children. She was stroking the dog the whole time.

When she left, she kind of danced off in a jerky way doing odd things with her hands (you know, like small children do). I said to my friend that an aggressive dog might see that as threatening.
 
It should be law that all dogs are on leashes in public spaces.
 
The Corinthian said:
It’s genuinely scary. As a recent dad of a baby girl i’m always on edge with dogs in parks that aren’t leashed up. There’s been too many horror stories in too short a time to not be.
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And you should be, dogs are unpredictable and there are some terrible and arrogant owners out there with the 'he's a friendly dog' attitude which doesn't help the situation .
 
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