Out: Berbatov / In: Klass Jan Huntelaar

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Huntelaar is so overrated on here. The fecker doesnt move, nor is his build play any good. He just offers 'shoot', much like a Gibson in the striker mould. Besides, what he offers is no different to Michael Owen.

I'd rather have Peter Crouch.
 
Ekeke said:
Its a push to say either one is not static.
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Berbatov just looks static. But he moves all over the place. He could be the lone striker but you could find him as the defensive midfielder. He moves, just slowly. I don't think Huntelaar moves at all, despite having the attributes to.
 
Please no. I beg you Fergie. I'm trembling from absolute horror.
 
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Name Changed said:
Berbatov just looks static. But he moves all over the place. He could be the lone striker but you could find him as the defensive midfielder. He moves, just slowly. I don't think Huntelaar moves at all, despite having the attributes to.
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He moves all over the place, right up and down the middle and very slowly. You wont find many more "static" players up front.

Huntelaar does come a bit wider at times but he's not much faster.
 
Ekeke said:
He moves all over the place, right up and down the middle and very slowly. You wont find many more "static" players up front.

Huntelaar does come a bit wider at times but he's not much faster.
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Exactly. So you're agreeing with my original response to Dans' post, so? ;)
 
Name Changed said:
Exactly. So you're agreeing with my original response to Dans' post, so? ;)
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As I said, you'd be hard pressed to make a case for either player not being "static". Neither have very good movement at all. Its one of the only things they do have in common other than failing to establish themselves at top clubs.
 
i'th rather have heskey

berbs is 10x the player hunterlar is , he's crap
 
MacMUFC said:
Huntelaar is so overrated on here. The fecker doesnt move, nor is his build play any good. He just offers 'shoot', much like a Gibson in the striker mould. Besides, what he offers is no different to Michael Owen.

I'd rather have Peter Crouch.
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Clearly then he offers a lot less. Owen's movement off the ball and the runs he makes are still immense.
 
Some great analogies flying around in here. :lol: As much as I think we should move Berbatov on I can't see any point in swapping him for a player that will bring about many of the same complaints.
 
I wanted us to sign Huntelaar at the time we signed Berbatov, but I don't see the benefit of this deal now, we need someone more attributed to our set up.
 
Breathe easily:

Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani has outlined the club's transfer scenario for the summer following Friday's annunal general meeting with the shareholders.

The club announced a 38 per cent increase in profits for 2009 compared to 2008. Earnings for the year up to December 2009 were €327.6 million compared to 2008 results of €237.9m.

It seems Kaka's sale to Real Madrid last year has also curbed debts, down 85 per cent on 2008. Milan confirmed the current debt stands at €9.8m compared to the previous results of €66.8m

With results in the briefcase, Galliani explained there would be no major sales from the club and, with that, no major arrivals as transfer allowances are docked.

"We will not be selling any stars. Certainly not [Alexandre] Pato, certainly not Thiago Silva, Certainly not Ronaldinho, [Klaas-Jan] Huntelaar and [Marco] Borriello," he told the press.

"Silvio Berlusconi loves Milan, but he will not spend €810m in five years like Inter did."
 
If Fergie wants to sign a striker that is happy to sit on teh bench for Champions league games then I wouldnt mind Huntelaar. But I would probably prefer Fabiano as he is older and has a great record for Brazil and would be ready to move over for Macheda and Welbeck ina couple of years when they are ready!
 
If they want Berba, they should stump up 20+ million and take him. We don't want throw away strikers reducing the price...but seeing our luck that exactly what we'll get. When we should have insisted on a swap with Ronaldo (Sneider or Robben) we didn't, and now when we need the money we'll probably get a player who has flattered to deceive at every major club he's played at (except Ajax, which lets face it hasn't been major in Europe for over a decade).
 
I see that Caffites have once again lost their bearings. All this striker talk is distracting us from what we really ought to be concerned about, sorting out central midfield. Bar a handful of games, we haven't struggled for goals and this shows that the problem doesn't lie there. We should be more concerned with the frequency with which we have lost midfield battles when up against decent to good opposition.

I for one am convinced that unless we address our midifield woes, the presence or absence of Berba next season will not impact performances in our midfield.

Let's not get sidetracked, yes Berba has disappointed BUT we have far bigger problems elsewhere.
 
Nah, Hunterlaar's not very good. If there's going to be a swap it should include Pato(plus a tiny bit of cash)
 
Snow said:
Why should Huntelaar be better than Berbatov?
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Not better, but more appropriate.

Berbatov lacks the direct nature of our football, it's the reason everyone always says 'he doesn't feel like proper United player'.

Also he can, if needed, lead the line alone when Rooney's injured. Berbatov simply cannot do this.
 
Ive been one of the most outspoken Huntelaar fans in recent times, but im not sure now would be the right time for us to get him. Last summer or the year before I was crying out for him, but with the signing of Owen - who is a very similar type of player - it doesnt really make sense to be getting him now, although I do think he could still do a job.

The other thing is that KJH is now 26 and in the peak of his career. I wanted him a couple of years ago because I was confident that with SAFs grooming, he could become a more complete player and would be fantastic for us. Now however, whilst he still has several years at the top of his game, I think its too late for him to be developing his game.

Even so, I think Huntelaar would do a good job at another team in the EPL. Someone around the spurs/everton/villa level, or maybe even Liverpool or Chelsea.
He could still fit into our team well - our wingers provide great service, and Huntelaar is both good in the air, and has great movement, positioning and finishing. He would get goals for us without a doubt - something that Berbatov doesnt seem to be doing.

Additionally, Huntelaar would do well in a 4-4-2 partnering Rooney. One they get to know each other, the movement of Huntelaar combined with the vision of Rooney could prove to be devastating. Definitely wouldve taken him 1-2 years ago, im not so sure now, but if we were somehow getting rid of both Berbatov and Owen, Huntelaar would be an excellent backup and partner for Rooney, whilst being a proven enough goalscorer that we could rely on him to hit the back of the net. With Rooney, Huntelaar and the youth prospects we have, we would have a good lineup.
 
That was just a copy/paste from another thread. Key points:

Huntelaar is a goalscorer, which we need.
He can play alone up front, or partner Rooney in a 4-4-2, which is good.
I would rather we got him a couple of years ago, or even last summer, so that he would have more time to expand his game, but he would do a better job than Berbatov is.
Huntelaar would be well suited for the EPL.
 
Eto'odinho said:
I see that Caffites have once again lost their bearings. All this striker talk is distracting us from what we really ought to be concerned about, sorting out central midfield. Bar a handful of games, we haven't struggled for goals and this shows that the problem doesn't lie there. We should be more concerned with the frequency with which we have lost midfield battles when up against decent to good opposition.

I for one am convinced that unless we address our midifield woes, the presence or absence of Berba next season will not impact performances in our midfield.

Let's not get sidetracked, yes Berba has disappointed BUT we have far bigger problems elsewhere.
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Goals haven't been a problem because Rooney has had a phenomenal season and has remained injury free, we'd be riding our luck to expect another perfect season for him.
 
Devil may care said:
Goals haven't been a problem because Rooney has had a phenomenal season and has remained injury free, we'd be riding our luck to expect another perfect season for him.
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It was said at the start of the season that we'd struggle to find goals. Then when Rooney started banging them in, it's solely because of him.

At the start of this season when Giggs got us a large share of assists, questions were asked who we'd have to get the assists for us if it wasn't for a 36 year old on his last legs.

Rooney has had a great year but, a lot of goals have come as a result of great team play.

The way we play is to get a lot of balls into the box from wide areas, for which you expect your strikers to get the most goals. Gibson has given us a threat from outside the box - speaking of, how many has Rooney scored from outside this season or on the edge?

We need a finisher and Berbatov hasn't been clinical but, with as many chances as Rooney has had, if he had the same, would have a decent number of goals to his name.

We don't need a perfect season from Rooney or our strikers, as long as our play out wide continues to do well, any striker at United will score a hatful of goals.

As someone said earlier, on the days we've not scored or scored enough, it hasn't necessarily been because of our strikers misfiring but, usually because we've lost the midfield. That will happen from time to time. We do need a creative central midfielder outside of Scholes, preferably someone who can dribble and take on players.
 
Shimo said:
It was said at the start of the season that we'd struggle to find goals. Then when Rooney started banging them in, it's solely because of him.

At the start of this season when Giggs got us a large share of assists, questions were asked who we'd have to get the assists for us if it wasn't for a 36 year old on his last legs.

Rooney has had a great year but, a lot of goals have come as a result of great team play.

The way we play is to get a lot of balls into the box from wide areas, for which you expect your strikers to get the most goals. Gibson has given us a threat from outside the box - speaking of, how many has Rooney scored from outside this season or on the edge?

We need a finisher and Berbatov hasn't been clinical but, with as many chances as Rooney has had, if he had the same, would have a decent number of goals to his name.

We don't need a perfect season from Rooney or our strikers, as long as our play out wide continues to do well, any striker at United will score a hatful of goals.

As someone said earlier, on the days we've not scored or scored enough, it hasn't necessarily been because of our strikers misfiring but, usually because we've lost the midfield. That will happen from time to time. We do need a creative central midfielder outside of Scholes, preferably someone who can dribble and take on players.
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The thing is that while the supply line out wide has been good, the movement and box play of Rooney has been amazing and given them a target time and again, without him we do not have a striker who will compliment those deliveries and if we were to lose him for an extended period we don't have a player who can step in and provide the box threat for our wingers to supply. I don't think Rooney has scored a single goal from outside the box this season.

I agree we need a creative midfielder as well, no arguing that for sure.
 
We've had plenty of opportunities to buy Huntelaar. We havent made a move. This deal doesnt impress me at all because im unconvinced by the Hunter.

I would rather stick than twist in this case.
 
Devil may care said:
I don't think Rooney has scored a single goal from outside the box this season.
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I heard on one of those Premier League preview shows or something, that he hasn't scored a goal from outside the box in the past two seasons. Not sure if that's correct though.
 
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