If Robben could turn his injury record around and flourish at Bayern, why can't Dembele? And Robben moved to Bayern Munich at 25 years old, exactly the same age as Dembele right now.
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Well, Robben is ten times the professional he is. Don't forget that a part of reason for his injuries is because he ate like an idiot and was lazy in training. He's lucky he doesn't have the body and genes of Shaw.
This is factually inaccurate. In the 10 years Robben spent at Bayern, he played 201 league games - about 20 games a season. In several seasons he played less than 20 league games. So while he was successful, he was still injury prone and missed a lot of games. He was also playing in a dominant Bayern team where his absence wasn't always missed that much as they would win the league anyway.
People talk about Robben, but his injury record was far better then Dembele from memory, I’m sure he was planning something like 30-35 games a season, starting about 80%. His injuries also tended to be for extended periods, where as Dembele iirc would be in for five out for a period etc.
I hope the rumors are false.
We have an excess of players in the attack, most in clear underperformance, Dembelé would be more of a problem.
Dembelé and his agents are asking for the authentic madness between commissions and salaries, which removes the label of market opportunity.
And the injury history is just one of the warning signs, his unprofessional behavior, and his peculiar personality worries me more.
And as for the sportive plan, he is a player with terrible decisions in the last touch, invariably his moves end in nothing.
And if he already had difficulties in the Spanish League, imagine him in the Premier League, I simply don't want to imagine.
At least at Stamford bridge
We have an excess of players in the attack, most in clear underperformance, Dembelé would be more of a problem.
Dembelé and his agents are asking for the authentic madness between commissions and salaries, which removes the label of market opportunity.
And the injury history is just one of the warning signs, his unprofessional behavior, and his peculiar personality worries me more.
And as for the sportive plan, he is a player with terrible decisions in the last touch, invariably his moves end in nothing.
And if he already had difficulties in the Spanish League, imagine him in the Premier League, I simply don't want to imagine.
At least at Stamford bridge
Whilst he looks a good player i think the Injuries and the Ego that he seems to have would be a bad mix. We have just gotten rid of Pogba and Lingard players with ego and injury problems i dont see how adding Demeble would be a good move
There are probably two universes right now. One where we will sign him, and he plays maybe 50 games over the next 5 years and generally isn't much more than a drain on our wage budget. And there is the universe where he signs for Chelsea, overcomes his injuries and turns into the next Hazard.
Does he have asthma? No way Liverpool sign players that aren't asthmatic.
I could be misreading your post but it's the opposite. Robben had regular "short time" injuries while Dembélé had three long term injuries. And Robben was available for roughly half of league games.
Too much of a gamble, too injury prone.
Not the right player to bring into a dysfunctional side.
We can’t gamble at our state, we need to nail every single transfer these next couple of windows to turn it around.
Not the right player to bring into a dysfunctional side.
We can’t gamble at our state, we need to nail every single transfer these next couple of windows to turn it around.
Yeah I mis wrote it, but that’s what I meant! Thanks for spotting it though. Yeah robben was never out for long periods.
We need goal threats in addition to Ronaldo. Can't have Ronaldo scoring 100 goals
It is also Arjen fecking Robben who just ran a marathon at 38 years old in a bit over 3 hours.
He's gonna terrorize PL FB's this season if he gets to reunite with Tuchel
I remember fans worrying about Werner, Ziyech and even Pulisic too
None of them were as heralded talents as he is and they did win a Champions League title with those 3 just a year ago...
Pulisic was signed to replace him at Dortmund and he didn't come close
They were all signed when they were performing at a level thats comfortably better than Dembele in the past couple seasons though. Granted a big part of this is down to injuries, but even still, I dont think hes going to tear the PL apart. He cant complete more than 15 full length games in La Liga.
And yeah the others won a CL, but none are tearing up the PL as you put it..
Dembele is a way better player.
He is but hows his injury record? I dont think it will get much better (maybe even worse) from joining the Premier League.
Oh yes, very humble. Puts the team before himself and doesn't love attention.
Pretty much. He played through injury/pain without complaining. Mediated dressing room issues, and was holding whatever little team spirit we had together:
also, loving attention doesn't necessarily mean you have a big ego nor is it inherently a negative thing. Pogba is just not the villain people desperately want him to be, and no amount of sarcastic quips will change that
Prefer to develop Amad and Pellistri. Fcuk him and his £300k a week ego.
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feck me
I would be happy with him at Chelsea.
Would love Dembouz at United! But it won't happen 
I wanted this guy for a long time. Mega talent that had his reputation spoiled by useless journalists. I'd be gutted if he goes to Chelsea while we are in need of a RW.
Think he has always wanted Chelsea or PSG
Chelsea have been 'in the lead' for Dembele for what feels like 10 years. This is why I both love and hate transfer windows. You get excited by potential new players but when every single tiny minuscule development, sometimes not even a development, is being reported it feels like the saga is dragging on and on for years.
Did he, really?
Robben never played 2000+ minutes of Bundesliga football in any season. He averaged less than 1400 minutes (15.5 * 90).
Robben started on average less than 18 league games per season at Bayern. He started more than 20 league only three times (25 in 16/17, 22 in 17/18 and 21 in 13/14).
Bayern managed things around Robben's injury proneness and they gave him platform to be a top player despite it. But he was still prone to injuries.
I very much get the Arjen Robben/Van Persie feeling from him. Can imagine him moving past his injury issues and becoming a devastating player.
Also Robben had a very different injury pattern to Dembele. Robben tended to be out for a few games then play for a few months, be out for a few games play for a few months. Dembele has tended to be a large spell out every year (+100 days) with a two or more one month out spells in between. Now he hasn't had a bad injury in a while so maybe he is over those issues.
Dembele on a free is a punt worth taking even with his injuries, especially if we then get a fee for an outgoing attacker
I did read a theory before that Messi and Co weren’t keen on physically tough training sessions and that Barcelona’s training during that end period of Messi’s reign was very slack and that for someone who relies on explosivity like Dembele, it just wasn’t properly preparing his body for his style of play.
I do think he’s a very different player than Robben and arguably he had a higher ceiling starting off his career due to his two footedness but it’s hard to really see him surpass Robben’s career now with all his setbacks
You will get it done quickly unlike us the snails
Big mistake by Chelsea in my opinion, they shouldn't go for this kinda of signing, particularly after what happened to lukaku .
They don't have sugar daddy bank Rolling them anymore, they should be much more careful from now on.
They don't have sugar daddy bank Rolling them anymore, they should be much more careful from now on.
"Free" is not free, whenever a player is without a contract you pay a 5 times higher sign on bonus and a lot higher fees to agents etc (and a higher wager as well, so in the end you wont save to much money or else we would be all over him, Dybala and so on...).
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