Saw many mentioned RW, but I thought Miky was brought for the exact position.
Our transfers beyond Pogba
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He's not that type of player though.
We do lack a holding midfielder who can dictate the game. Schweinsteiger/Carrick can't be relied upon.
Jose can actually do without one, his gen 1 Chelsea midfield trio of Makelele, Essien and Lampard consist of 0 playmaker.
He had Robben and Duff on the wings who are miles better than anything we have atm
Anthony and now Miky on both sides shld not be too far behind that pair.
Sure, but that was one of the best midfields to ever grace the PL. You had a world-class defensive mid, a world-class box-to-box mid and a world-class attacking mid, and there was tremendous synergy between the 3. With those players, you don't necessarily need a guy to dictate tempo, but you don't run into a trio like that very often and we certainly don't have anything approaching that even with Pogba.
I reckon we'll be in for a young winger, otherwise, I think we're OK
If we can get an experienced CB I think we will and Fabinho seems like a genuine possibility adding an option at RB and DM. I wouldn't be surprised if we bought a young prospect as well.
Herrera and Schnederlin can't get the best out of Pogba but Matuidi can?
What a stupid thread.
What a stupid thread.Fabinho as an option for DM and RB, CB and a right winger and I think we are set.
Dont need a right winger. Fabinho even if brought wont be used at DM.
At present:
Defense: Valencia, Darmian, Smalling, Jones, Bailly, Rojo, Shaw, CBJ
Midfield: Carrick, Schweinsteiger, Blind, Schneiderlin, Herrera, Fellaini, (Pogba), Pereira
Attack: Zlatan, Mkhitaryan, Martial, Rashford, Rooney, Mata, Lingard, Young, Januzaj, Depay, Keane
Seems fine number wise. Lacks in quality depth.
Once Pogba is done, I would look to move out: Rojo, Schweinsteiger, Blind, Fellaini, Depay, Young, Mata, Keane & Januzaj (On loan). Will add a young heir to Carrick, an experienced CB & a young right winger with potential.
Defense: Valencia, Darmian, Smalling, Jones, Bailly, Shaw, CBJ, CB
Midfield: Carrick, Schneiderlin, Herrera, Pogba, Pereira, Rebuen Neves
Attack: Zlatan, Mkhitaryan, Martial, Rashford, Rooney, RW, Lingard
Aided by the like of Tofu, Tuanzebe, etc.
Defense: Valencia, Darmian, Smalling, Jones, Bailly, Rojo, Shaw, CBJ
Midfield: Carrick, Schweinsteiger, Blind, Schneiderlin, Herrera, Fellaini, (Pogba), Pereira
Attack: Zlatan, Mkhitaryan, Martial, Rashford, Rooney, Mata, Lingard, Young, Januzaj, Depay, Keane
Seems fine number wise. Lacks in quality depth.
Once Pogba is done, I would look to move out: Rojo, Schweinsteiger, Blind, Fellaini, Depay, Young, Mata, Keane & Januzaj (On loan). Will add a young heir to Carrick, an experienced CB & a young right winger with potential.
Defense: Valencia, Darmian, Smalling, Jones, Bailly, Shaw, CBJ, CB
Midfield: Carrick, Schneiderlin, Herrera, Pogba, Pereira, Rebuen Neves
Attack: Zlatan, Mkhitaryan, Martial, Rashford, Rooney, RW, Lingard
Aided by the like of Tofu, Tuanzebe, etc.
De Gea
Darmian/Valencia Smalling/Bailly New CB/Jones Shaw/CBJ
Carrick/Neves
Schneiderlin/Herrera Pogba/Pereira
Mkhi/RW Zlatan/Rashford/Rooney Martial/Lingard
Don't think it'll be possible to make all those changes in this window, but that is how I like to squad to shape up.Darmian/Valencia Smalling/Bailly New CB/Jones Shaw/CBJ
Carrick/Neves
Schneiderlin/Herrera Pogba/Pereira
Mkhi/RW Zlatan/Rashford/Rooney Martial/Lingard
If we get Pogba, Fabinho and Gabriel Jesus I'm pretty happy.
We have no proper winger. Mkhitryan is our only very good option there and he's not even a tradtional winger, if he gets injured or drops form we will be back to Lingard out wide. Therefore I certainly do believe we need a right winger, someone young preferably.
Fabinho will play RB but he is an option for DM, can play there and we're not exactly stocked in that department.
Fabinho and Mahrez.
Perfect.
Perfect.
Agree with this though I think an established RB wouldn't be amiss. The players you listed as departures could earn us a good sum (Fellaini + Mata + Blind = at least £50m) and we could use that to sign Neves and Fabinho. I'd be more inclined to keep Januzaj around because of our commitments in the Europa League where I'd hope he, Pereira, Tuanzebe, Rashford and TFM are used regularly and take it as a chance to really push for proper first team roles.
If you look at the midfield combinations being posted the lack of a deep lying play-maker is too apparent and needs to be addressed making Neves a player we must have.
Lassana Diarra, did he go back to Russia or what? He must surely be on the move this summer what with L'OM being torn apart player by player.
By all accounts he had a fantastic season in France and has played for Josè before. Supposedly he's a free agent since Marseille didn't qualify for the Champions League.
Old quotes from May: "I am now a free agent as there's a clause in my contract that allows me to leave if the team did not qualify for European football. I hope Marseille will stick to their word. I will never forget Marseille and the fans, who showed me a lot of love. I do not know yet where I will play next season. I am calm about my future, there's time. I have not signed for PSG. Jose Mourinho? I know him well. I have enjoyed some great times with him. He is a coach I really like. But we will see what happens next season."
For free he'd be a fantastic acquisition.
By all accounts he had a fantastic season in France and has played for Josè before. Supposedly he's a free agent since Marseille didn't qualify for the Champions League.
Old quotes from May: "I am now a free agent as there's a clause in my contract that allows me to leave if the team did not qualify for European football. I hope Marseille will stick to their word. I will never forget Marseille and the fans, who showed me a lot of love. I do not know yet where I will play next season. I am calm about my future, there's time. I have not signed for PSG. Jose Mourinho? I know him well. I have enjoyed some great times with him. He is a coach I really like. But we will see what happens next season."
For free he'd be a fantastic acquisition.
I think that Mourinho is biding his time to see what Fosu/Schneiderlin/Carrick will show him in training. Surely there must be some departures when Pogba signs. I think Schweinsteiger will leave, Fellaini maybe as an option from the bench, Herrera cover for Rooney and Pogba, and we still have Mata. If he gets a new DM that will spend the end for Schneiderlin I suppose.
Wingers are scarcity in today's game. Most of the teams play without the traditional wingers of the past and maybe that's the reason behind it...You will hardly see a Kanchelskis for example in a modern team. Managers want inside forwards, inverted forwards, somebody who can add more dimensions to our gameplay and not a Valencia who can only do 1-2 things on the right wing. That is just my opinion on the matter. I think we really lack a defensive midfielder ( I really wanted Kante, he was my player of the season)and a character/leader for our defensive line. I think that those two should be top priorities or Mou must have seen Smalling as a leader or something else we still do not know.
Agree we need a defensive midfielder but I don't agree with your point about the wingers. I doubt we could sign a proper traditional winger as, as you mentioned there just isn't many around anymore (Mahrez, maybe?) but we need a player who can stretch the defence and play wide. With Mkhitryan we essentially have a playmaker, who will for the most part be occupying the middle of the pitch. It's essential to have other options, if not players who can manage both imo.
For example, Barcelona have Neymar and Messi outwide, both are inverted wingers for the most part, but they on occasion use Neymar to stretch play, either through staying out wide or roaming out there, allowing Messi and Suarez more space in the middle of the pitch. I don't see Mkhitryan being able to do that, that doesn't seem his style.
Another example would be Bayern, on the occasions I've seen them play they've had Robben being the type to constantly cut into the middle of the pitch (ala Martial) while Costa who would perform both, providing width as well as being able to cut inside. They also have Coman and Ribery on the bench who also are very similiar.
I think someone like Gabriel who by no means is a traditional winger, is very capable using the whole size of the pitch would be a very good signing.
Guess we just have to trust Jose.
Not every successful football team needs one of these players. Plus, if surrounded by legs (Herrera, Schneiderlin, Pogba) all of Carrick, Bastian and Blind are more than capable of sitting at the base and spreading the ball about in their own way.
That doesn't mean pinging long range balls out wide either.
I think Matuidi would be a very valuable addition to the squad. I think he would complement Pogba really well considering both players' skillsets.
However, we would need to sell one or 2 midfielders to justify the transfer. I also think there are quite a few similarities between Schneiderlin and Matuidi, and am really keen for us to give Schneiderlin a good run of games alongside Pogba in attempt to find his Southampton form.
I would be more than happy to see Fellaini and maybe Schweinsteiger to make way for Matuidi.
However, we would need to sell one or 2 midfielders to justify the transfer. I also think there are quite a few similarities between Schneiderlin and Matuidi, and am really keen for us to give Schneiderlin a good run of games alongside Pogba in attempt to find his Southampton form.
I would be more than happy to see Fellaini and maybe Schweinsteiger to make way for Matuidi.
It sounds a bit mental after already signing 4 first team players (assuming Pogba joins) but I reckon we could do with another 3 first team players on top of that: a right back, a right winger, and a defensive midfielder. I'd love Mahrez on the right with Mkhitaryan in the middle. We could also do with another centre back or two once we get rid of Jones and Rojo.
Can't believe van gaal spent so much but here we are again in need of a major overhaul. It's disgraceful mismanagement.
Can't believe van gaal spent so much but here we are again in need of a major overhaul. It's disgraceful mismanagement.
My thoughts exactly.
I don't think we'll see any further signings coming in unless we move a few on. An experienced CB would be nice, but not 100% sold that it's essential just now, and furthermore who is currently available? If we could offload Fellaini, Rojo and Rooney I'd be delighted, but not holding my breath on Rooney going.
My thoughts exactly, I have no faith in Darmian, and I think Micky Targaryan might be better in the middle, we need someone with pace to burn on the right.
Also as I wrote in length in another thread I can't see how Mourinho will be satisfied with the defensive side of our midfield, when compared to the competition and his old teams. He always play with a solid defensive foundation in midfield. I just dont think Schneiderlin covers those bases, and Carric and Schweini is likely over the hill.
Chelsea: Kante, Matic
Arse: Xhaka, Coquelin
Spurs: Wanyama, Dier
City, Fernando, Fernandinho
All these teams have better defensive options in midfield than we do.
Might be one addition to many in one window though, and he might be looking for strengthening the midfield defensively next summer.
How we let Krychowiak go to PSG uncontested is beyond me. Closest thing to Matic (the good version) you will find.
It's weird. I wouldn't say any of LvG's signings were wrong at the time but both he and Moyes, and Fergie before them, allowed the spine of the squad to get weaker over the past few years. We're having to construct a core of players to build around, which is something that we should have already had in place.
What a wet dream
Depending how Cederic Soares is developing at Southampton he might be an option for our right FB spot.
I also would like us to bring in a really good young AMC/deep lying striker, who can replace Rooney in the long run, if Pogba isn't going to fill that role which he might actually do.
Also a quality CB and Striker wouldn't hurt.
I also would like us to bring in a really good young AMC/deep lying striker, who can replace Rooney in the long run, if Pogba isn't going to fill that role which he might actually do.
Also a quality CB and Striker wouldn't hurt.
Mourinho has already said he has 4 key signings in mind and we can breathe so I would imagine that we wont see any major transfers after this unless someone he considers a guaranteed first team starter leaves.
Don't think its a funds issue but a team balance thing. I believe we will get an experienced central defender in but probably someone reliable already knocking around the EPL give time to Bailly to bed in. Wing and RB are somewhat covered so I think we can wait a season before investing in these areas.
Don't think its a funds issue but a team balance thing. I believe we will get an experienced central defender in but probably someone reliable already knocking around the EPL give time to Bailly to bed in. Wing and RB are somewhat covered so I think we can wait a season before investing in these areas.
Agree that we probably won't see anymore big buys. But I reiterate that I can't see how Mourinho can be happy with the defensive side of our midfield, perhaps if he plans to steer away from his classic 4-2-3-1 and go towards a 3 man midfield in a 4-3-3, but I just can't see it.
a 4-2-3-1 with Schneid and Pogba in the midfield two won't cut it defensively. You would have to have someone like Kante in there for that to work. Herrera, Pogba, Schneid in a midfield 3 might work though due to their collective energy, but there is no one in our midfield I trust enough defensively or imo is capable of being the single defensive\holding player in a midfield 2
It's also quite sensible. Don't change the team too much. Add 4 quality players to the squad and start planning who to go for in the next summer, then observe their development and get them in early if we are convinced they will be good for our squad.
Yeah I think if he does sign the experienced CB he wants it will not be a glamourous name, will be more of an oldish off the radar signing which Jose does tend to do at times.
I think there might be 1 or 2 more just depends on how many players leave.
My thoughts exactly. I'd like to see rojo and Jones shown the door
Yep exactly. I think we need to also consider that some players have not reached full potential and that could be down to LVG's tactics.
At the very least Herrera and Schneiderlin have in the past shown their capabilities. Also Darmian could potentially be better than he has shown in the past 12 months though this is less likely
I think we need to target 2 - 4 more players (RW, CB, RB & DM) because it's not even August, Pogba looks like a done deal, there's not much on television, it's raining, and I have nothing planned for the next 30 odd days!
I would be delighted if we can hijack Gabriel Jesus. The kid is something. I know we have Martial but Mkhitayran and Gabriel can constantly swap positions. 20M is not a big risk.
Can't see us making any more additions and quite frankly I'm satisfied with our business this summer (providing Pogba joins ofc). Perhaps an experienced centre back, but I do think a right back and right winger can wait.