Our team identity/team cohesion

Interesting article about our lack of identity:
Lack of Moyes' identity to be tested vs. Everton


A recent development in our expectations of football managers is the insistence that they boast an overarching managerial "philosophy" or "ideology." It's apparently no longer enough to simply pick the correct players and formulate tactics to get the best from them -- there’s a need for a grander, long-term, all-encompassing insistence upon a particular playing style.

While managerial strategy has been a crucial factor in top-level football for decades, these lofty expectations are relatively new -- but it's already become an entrenched factor whenever a new manager takes charge of an elite club. Seven of the current top nine teams in the Premier League have appointed a new manager over the past 18 months, and in almost every case it was easy to deduce their philosophy upon their appointment.

At Liverpool, Brendan Rodgers wants incessant ball retention. At Tottenham, Andre Villas-Boas espouses a high defensive line and quick, vertical passing. At Everton, Roberto Martinez demands possession play and heavy use of the flanks. At Chelsea, Jose Mourinho requires deep defending and quick counterattacking. At Manchester City, Manuel Pellegrini preaches ball retention and clever, integrated movement between versatile attackers. At Southampton, Mauricio Pochettino preaches strong pressing and quick, one-touch midfield passing.


But Manchester United's David Moyes is something of an anomaly. He was regarded primarily as a reactive manager at Everton, who varied his strategy according to the opponent. Whether that's compatible with having a strong overall philosophy is up for debate -- he was regarded as a tactician rather than an ideologue. Aside from Everton's excellent play down the left in recent years between Leighton Baines and Steven Pienaar, your average football fan would find it difficult to summarise Moyes' playing style, especially when compared to the aforementioned managers.

"He had his ideas on what he wanted and how he would like to play and he would go through that in detail," said Moyes' former centre-back David Weir. "But he probably came at it from a defender's perspective." Among the Premier League's top managers, that makes Moyes unusual.

Roberto Martinez's clear style has made David Moyes' lack of an apparent footballing philosophy stand out even more.

The lack of a clear identity has caused Moyes three separate problems so far at Man United. First, he is unable to depend upon the "entertainment factor" to get United fans onside. Overall, United's support has been extremely supportive and encouraging during his tenure -- after all, these are not fans accustomed to showing dissent towards a manager. A Moyes chant was formulated before the season had even begun, one that is constantly audible at matches.

However, even loyal supporters have (at least privately) had doubts about Moyes. It's understandable considering his lack of pedigree and some underwhelming results, despite the current 12-match unbeaten run. The playing style of a Martinez or Pochettino might have prompted more genuine excitement.

Second, it's difficult to understand Moyes' ultimate target in terms of playing style. When Rodgers struggled in his first few weeks as Liverpool manager (partly because of a difficult fixture list, something Moyes also encountered this campaign), he could point to clear, visible signs of progress.

With possession dominance a key factor in Rodgers' belief -- at least at that time -- he could excuse poor results by marveling at Liverpool's ball retention. In fact, he didn't need to -- because fans understood Rodgers' intentions, and could see the possession play for themselves. Moyes can't play that card.

Third, and a consequence of the other two factors: The result becomes of paramount importance. It's inescapable -- if the side isn't trying to entertain and they're not slowly working towards an obvious end game, they must win.

Moyes is also in a difficult predicament because United's existing strategic identity under Sir Alex Ferguson is surprisingly unclear. Attempt to concisely explain Ferguson's strategy at United, and it would be significantly more difficult than explaining the beliefs of, for example, Arsene Wenger, Pep Guardiola, Fabio Capello, Carlo Ancelotti or Vicente del Bosque.

Man United lacks a definable style under David Moyes, yet it was always tough to summarize the club under Sir Alex Ferguson, too.

Ferguson's United were predominantly about astonishing self-belief, about the force of personality and the spirit within the side. His autobiography gives relatively few examples of on-pitch decisions (with the obvious caveat that positional changes and formation switches are rarely juicy enough to appeal to the mass market), and instead focuses upon how he maintained a motivated and cohesive group. Ferguson wasn't a poor strategist, by any stretch of the imagination, but he wasn't primarily a strategist either.

Besides, United's existing playing style, whatever you consider that to be, is also slightly problematic for Moyes because it doesn't need overhauling; United enjoyed consistent success under Ferguson, who departed by winning the title. It's hardly a dreadful starting situation, but in terms of playing style it's easier to be in the position of Villas-Boas replacing Harry Redknapp, or Mark Hughes replacing Tony Pulis -- in those situations, there's a specific desire from the board to evolve the football on show, and a "transition period" is acceptable.

Certainly some Moyesian elements have been obvious in United's performances so far. In particular, the overlapping of Patrice Evra is highly reminiscent of Baines' performances for Everton in the past few years, with the Frenchman's crossing being one of United's most promising methods of creating chances.

It was also interesting to see Phil Jones moving out wide to provide the cross for Wayne Rooney's first goal against Tottenham on Sunday. He was playing in a central midfield position, but one of Moyes' key beliefs is the need to create overloads down the flanks -- either two-against-one or three-against-two. The only way the latter can be created is with a central player moving out wide, and while the goal came primarily because of a Kyle Walker error, it also shows Moyes' methods starting to take shape -- although it's doubtful many fans noticed.

Highlighting the managers' differences are players like Gerard Deulofeu, as exciting but flawed young stars saw little time under Moyes.

Moyes' approach is in stark contrast to that of his replacement at Everton, Martinez, who is the classic modern football philosopher. For Everton, both possession and pass completion statistics are up around 4 percent compared to last season -- the Toffees have never previously played such exciting, adventurous football in the Premier League era.

In the sense that both managers rely upon width, Martinez has continued with some of Moyes' tactics, albeit in a more attacking format. Full-backs Baines -- unavailable this week -- and Seamus Coleman are allowed to push forward simultaneously, often with Gareth Barry dropping into defence. Pienaar and Kevin Mirallas play direct wide roles and have less responsibility to protect their full-backs.

The introduction of Gerard Deulofeu is even more significant, because the Barcelona loanee wouldn't have joined Everton had Moyes still been at the club. He's thrived in one-against-one situations out wide and while his defensive discipline remains a concern, Martinez believes his attacking potential more than compensates for his tactical immaturity.

By contrast, Moyes wouldn't subscribe to that belief and always took too long before trusting younger players -- the likes of Leon Osman and Coleman are older than many people think (32 and 25, respectively) because they took so long to establish themselves, despite their obvious talent. Meanwhile, many fans believed Ross Barkley should have been a regular from the start of last season -- Martinez has made him a key part of the side and has embraced his unpredictable positioning.

Meanwhile, Moyes is more pragmatic. Arguably, it's a braver approach -- there are no excuses for poor results. For Moyes, the scoreline is the only truth.

Defeat to Everton this week would be a significant blow -- not just losing, but losing to his former side, who are not just more entertaining but are evolving their style of play. Following two consecutive away draws, Moyes needs a performance. Or, rather, he needs a result.
from ESPN
 
Yeah, that's not what I took from the article at all.
 
Only Villa but we've had more fluid movement and intricate link up play than usual today. Hopefully we can build on it and improve the quality of football we play this season.
 
I thought Rooney playing almost as a third central midfielder helped us immensely.
 
People keep harping on about needing a midfielder when in reality our biggest problem is what Wenger calls "squad solidarity" (or in this thread, cohesion). Simply put, Moyes must get this group of players to play as he wants them and in the process, instill a sense of solidarity where the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. Fergie could do it, and Moyes did it well at Everton, and must now replicate it here. At that point, buying the glamorous players often discussed in the transfer forum will actually make a difference.


Cautiously optmisictic after last night's performance that we've turned the corner. Our sense of squad cohesion was fantastic, even without the likes of RvP and Carrick there.
 
They gave us too much space.


There's that, but I think that we need to credit Moyes and the team more after this performance. It's exactly what we needed to do. We don't control what Aston Villa do on the pitch - we just have to take advantage of what's in front of us and we did.

This negativity has to be toned down a bit IMO. If Valencia, for example, has a good game against Real Sociedad, we find a way to degrade this performance by saying their left back is awful. If it's against Bayer Leverkusen, we say that a CM was playing at LB. And the cycle continues.

For what it's worth, I think we would have looked better even if they did press us because of Rooney playing in midfield.
 
They gave us too much space.

We made them give us too much space. I doubt any team would ever deliberately "give the opponent space". Our formation and approach play probably unsettled them into confusion at times and we exploited it. Credit surely has to go to the manager.
 
Aston Villa started the game well and I thought it was gonna be another tough away match with lots of pressure from the home team, Moyes' tactics have helped a lot with more movement and Rooney playing closer to Giggs and Cleverley. The early goals also helped immensely, there were some clear changes in the setup and hopefully we'll see more of that. Once the players have a precise idea of how they should play (and play in their best positions for Welbeck) then the performances individually and collectively are much better.
 
We made them give us too much space. I doubt any team would ever deliberately "give the opponent space". Our formation and approach play probably unsettled them into confusion at times and we exploited it. Credit surely has to go to the manager.
Not really. Their defensive shape and overall mentality led to that more than our formation. Otherwise, a lot more teams would have second thoughts about applying pressure on our players.
 
There's that, but I think that we need to credit Moyes and the team more after this performance. It's exactly what we needed to do. We don't control what Aston Villa do on the pitch - we just have to take advantage of what's in front of us and we did.

This negativity has to be toned down a bit IMO. If Valencia, for example, has a good game against Real Sociedad, we find a way to degrade this performance by saying their left back is awful. If it's against Bayer Leverkusen, we say that a CM was playing at LB. And the cycle continues.

For what it's worth, I think we would have looked better even if they did press us because of Rooney playing in midfield.
I agree with that and I'm glad we did. At the same time, i'm not trying to get carried away either.

How was what we did against villa different to the performance at leverkusen? they gave us space as well and we took advantage. It's what happens when the space is reduced which is more concerned.

The comment about emre can at left back is a valid point though. If a player struggles against a decent left back and does well against a shit one, that shouldn't be pointed out? They're simply factors that i feel dont have to be overlooked just because a player had a good performance.
 
I have no idea what we're trying to do, no clear or defined plan in what we are trying to establish, feels like Fergie's last few seasons with less winning and more aimless passes.
 
I have no idea what we're trying to do, no clear or defined plan in what we are trying to establish, feels like Fergie's last few seasons with less winning and more aimless passes.


Nah, the image is visible, we're still about wings, it's just that they are fecking awful, can't cross nor cut inside and score.

Bar Januzaj.
 
Nah, the image is visible, we're still about wings, it's just that they are fecking awful, can't cross nor cut inside and score.

Bar Januzaj.


Our movement off the ball has regressed a lot over the last few years.
 
A lot of effort and running but little quality on the ball. Loads of crosses into the box, nothing through the middle. Everton 2.0 basically.
 
First 20 mins keeping the ball, playing in neat and tidy. Not finding the net though.
Getting frustrated and probably concede a goal. Lump it forward or to Valencia as a result. Valencia smashes cross into the defender.
Repeat for the remaining 70 minutes or until we eventually score a goal.
 
First 20 mins keeping the ball, playing in neat and tidy. Not finding the net though.
Getting frustrated and probably concede a goal. Lump it forward or to Valencia as a result. Valencia smashes cross into the defender.
Repeat for the remaining 70 minutes or until we eventually score a goal.


How teams havent figured out the Rooney cross field ball to Valencia and Valencia's refusal to go to the defenders left is baffling, pretty much close this off and its game on against us
 
How teams havent figured out the Rooney cross field ball to Valencia and Valencia's refusal to go to the defenders left is baffling, pretty much close this off and its game on against us


Well teams have figured it out, that's why Val is so ineffective in his last 2 years.
 
First 20 mins keeping the ball, playing in neat and tidy. Not finding the net though.
Getting frustrated and probably concede a goal. Lump it forward or to Valencia as a result. Valencia smashes cross into the defender.
Repeat for the remaining 70 minutes or until we eventually score a goal.
One of the more annoying aspects of the way we play is that today we did play well for 20 odd minutes, didn't score then reverted back to play it to Valencia and hope for the best. Which never really came. Looks like the team has a real reluctance to play a different style.
 
The more I think about it the more I worry. What are we trying to do? Are we trying to play at a quicker tempo and press higher under Moyes? If so we can't really carry players like Vidic, Carrick and Evra in such a system. If we are focussing on wide play for attacking why are choosing such unnatural full-backs like Smalling ahead of Fabio? It doesn't help we never seem to have a fully fit squad, our off the ball movement is terrible too, too many players are shirking responsibility, it's just a massive clusterfeck.
 
The more I think about it the more I worry. What are we trying to do? Are we trying to play at a quicker tempo and press higher under Moyes? If so we can't really carry players like Vidic, Carrick and Evra in such a system. If we are focussing on wide play for attacking why are choosing such unnatural full-backs like Smalling ahead of Fabio? It doesn't help we never seem to have a fully fit squad, our off the ball movement is terrible too, too many players are shirking responsibility, it's just a massive clusterfeck.


Thing is I wouldn't say there's anything wrong with the set up today but more on how they're playing within it. It was working quite nicely using the left side to suck in players and then the switch out wide. I thought for example that Carrick played a number of quick first time passes when the option was on. Evra certainly looked tired which did hinder the left though. Agree on players not taking enough responsibility as well though. However as I said I don't think there's much wrong with the inherent plan it's just not being executed well enough and there is a lack of a plan b.

The three key problems for me were and tend to be:

Massive gaps in central midfield- it's one thing if they lack creativity etc but there's no reason for it to constantly look so open against decent teams from something as simple as one player being left to cover the middle of the pitch. Why can't we just ask the other cm to hold their position, why does Clev end up wide so often. It constantly leaves us open to counters right through the middle, slows down our build up play as we have to wait much longer for players to come short than we should have to and generally makes little sense.

Lack of penetration in the final third- We got in to good positions time and time again on the right, that's not the issue, people can say that it's a one dimensional approach etc, but we constantly manage to engineer space there, the use of that space, again when up against decent teams is woeful. Imagine Beckham with that space being left for him, or Ronaldo. They'd cause havoc. But as it is atm it's effectively just giving the ball back to them.

Lack of variety/plan B: slightly against what I said above but we do lack variety and I don't think most will agree why. For me, I think Rooney has been great for us, but as has been the case over a number of years as a number 10 his style of creativity isn't focussed on through the middle. He is very much about picking the ball up and swiching it and then heading to the box. He does it very well, but it's as much a cause of our one dimensioness as say Valencia is. Unless Rooney is given lots of space and is feeling sharp he's rarely gonna pick up the ball and play an incisive central pass or carry it forward through the middle. He can do it, but he rarely does.

On that last point thats somewhere where I think Moyes has got it wrong at times. When we've been struggling he's often looked to bring on a winger and say Hernandez and gone with Welbeck and Hernandez up top, or Welbeck wide. For me thats not always been what we needed. Kagawa isn't particularly popular atm but I think at times, like today, we could use him just coming central and then one of Hernandez/Welbeck ahead of him. With Rooney deeper we still get his passing range so we can get someone like Januzaj one on one with their full back. And then in Kagawa we get someone for me who is slightly better at central creativity and could bring a wide attacker like Januzaj in, in a different way.

For me though these problems are solvable by 1 proper midfielder who will hold their ground next to Carrick and doesn't go awol, ideally one who can also provide some central penetration and then either getting one of our wingers back in to form (for me I think Valencia has had more than his fair share of chances), or getting someone new in.

But other then that I can't see what other options are really there. As I said Rooney isn't the sort too put in diagonal runners, he rarely plays that sort of pass, I'm not saying he isn't capable of it but it's not his strongest point. Kagawa/Januzaj could but that would either mean one of RVP/Rooney or one of them playing wide/deeper which is unlikely- though for me the best solution until we actually sign a midfielder. At the very least we should be able to get Clev/the other midfielder, to actually hold their position and take Valencia out of the team, injuries permitting.
 
Thing is I wouldn't say there's anything wrong with the set up today but more on how they're playing within it. It was working quite nicely using the left side to suck in players and then the switch out wide. I thought for example that Carrick played a number of quick first time passes when the option was on. Evra certainly looked tired which did hinder the left though. Agree on players not taking enough responsibility as well though. However as I said I don't think there's much wrong with the inherent plan it's just not being executed well enough and there is a lack of a plan b.

The three key problems for me were and tend to be:

Massive gaps in central midfield- it's one thing if they lack creativity etc but there's no reason for it to constantly look so open against decent teams from something as simple as one player being left to cover the middle of the pitch. Why can't we just ask the other cm to hold their position, why does Clev end up wide so often. It constantly leaves us open to counters right through the middle, slows down our build up play as we have to wait much longer for players to come short than we should have to and generally makes little sense.

Lack of penetration in the final third- We got in to good positions time and time again on the right, that's not the issue, people can say that it's a one dimensional approach etc, but we constantly manage to engineer space there, the use of that space, again when up against decent teams is woeful. Imagine Beckham with that space being left for him, or Ronaldo. They'd cause havoc. But as it is atm it's effectively just giving the ball back to them.

Lack of variety/plan B: slightly against what I said above but we do lack variety and I don't think most will agree why. For me, I think Rooney has been great for us, but as has been the case over a number of years as a number 10 his style of creativity isn't focussed on through the middle. He is very much about picking the ball up and swiching it and then heading to the box. He does it very well, but it's as much a cause of our one dimensioness as say Valencia is. Unless Rooney is given lots of space and is feeling sharp he's rarely gonna pick up the ball and play an incisive central pass or carry it forward through the middle. He can do it, but he rarely does.

On that last point thats somewhere where I think Moyes has got it wrong at times. When we've been struggling he's often looked to bring on a winger and say Hernandez and gone with Welbeck and Hernandez up top, or Welbeck wide. For me thats not always been what we needed. Kagawa isn't particularly popular atm but I think at times, like today, we could use him just coming central and then one of Hernandez/Welbeck ahead of him. With Rooney deeper we still get his passing range so we can get someone like Januzaj one on one with their full back. And then in Kagawa we get someone for me who is slightly better at central creativity and could bring a wide attacker like Januzaj in, in a different way.

For me though these problems are solvable by 1 proper midfielder who will hold their ground next to Carrick and doesn't go awol, ideally one who can also provide some central penetration and then either getting one of our wingers back in to form (for me I think Valencia has had more than his fair share of chances), or getting someone new in.

But other then that I can't see what other options are really there. As I said Rooney isn't the sort too put in diagonal runners, he rarely plays that sort of pass, I'm not saying he isn't capable of it but it's not his strongest point. Kagawa/Januzaj could but that would either mean one of RVP/Rooney or one of them playing wide/deeper which is unlikely- though for me the best solution until we actually sign a midfielder. At the very least we should be able to get Clev/the other midfielder, to actually hold their position and take Valencia out of the team, injuries permitting.


We need to go back to basics and focus on defending and perhaps adapt a 4-3-3 now in big games, midfield is too weak.
 
Style issues


Some are calling it the worst defence of the title ever. Manchester United are seventh in January. No Premier League champions have ever finished lower. They have already lost more home games - four - than in any season in the past decade and there are still nine Old Trafford fixtures left to fulfil. The only comfort for United fans right now is that the transfer window is now open. The panacea could be just days away.

David Moyes has sought to play down the club's January activity, recently admitting he wasn't "massively sure" he would bring someone in. While that is unlikely to impress United fans, the real worry for supporters should not be a lack of signings; the big concern ought to be that those signings might not make much difference. Not when there is a problem at the core of the team's style of play.

Playing the percentages can be an unwelcome phrase in football. But many coaches recognise that luck is a key element in the game. In The Numbers Game by Chris Anderson and David Sally it is argued that fortune accounts for 50 per cent of the reason for any given result. Some play on this. A Sam Allardyce or a Tony Pulis might enjoy relative success by utilising an aerial game that relies upon second balls and knockdowns, turning the contest into a series of 50/50 battles.

Making a football match a 90 minute coin toss suits teams with less quality at their disposal. But the aim for the richest clubs in the division with the best players at their disposal should be to limit the impact of luck. That's why such sides will look to pass their way through the opposition and focus on precision. It is not a quirk that sees Barcelona et al choose to take short corners rather than sling the ball into the box. It is a calculated decision that there are easier ways to score.

Of course, crossing the ball is a tradition at Old Trafford. This is a club accustomed to having some of the finest wingers around. Sir Alex Ferguson has relied upon them over the years from Lee Sharpe and Andrei Kanchelskis to Ryan Giggs and David Beckham; from the great Cristiano Ronaldo to the blossoming talents of Adnan Januzaj. But it seems you can have too much of a good thing.

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Manchester United's tally of 423 failed crosses this season is a Premier League high

Manchester United top the Premier League for crosses per game, swinging in an average of 26.65 of them in their 20 league games so far this season. In the New Year's Day defeat at home to Tottenham, they took the policy to new levels. A whopping 47 crosses were lobbed goalwards for Vlad Chiriches and Michael Dawson to deal with. That was a United high for the season and more than in any game they played last term. It isn't proving an efficient use of the ball in the final third.

This is precisely the area of the field where the best teams will play an intricate through-ball to find a breakthrough. Tellingly, that's exactly what the impressive Januzaj did to create Danny Welbeck's goal on Wednesday. It leads to better quality opportunities and United are eschewing plenty of them: 423 of the 533 crosses hurled in have failed to find their target (again, a Premier League high). That's 423 chances to do something better in the last third that have been wasted.

It's a disjointed tactic too. Firstly, an emphasis on crossing necessitates quality in wide areas. While United have the numbers, the world-class wingers of the past are missing. Moyes' team has become wilfully reliant on the most mercurial figures in the squad, with the ruthless Robin van Persie reduced to the role of waiting in the box for the ball to arrive from the flanks.

Not only is this supply a problem but these wingers are not a direct source of goals either. Ronaldo was a revelation, Beckham averaged more than seven goals per season and Giggs netted 81 goals in his first 12 Premier League campaigns. In the 1994/95 season, Kanchelskis was even the top scorer. In 2013/14, Giggs, Ashley Young, Nani, Antonio Valencia and Wilfried Zaha have contributed just two goals between them. Only young Januzaj - with three goals - has scored more than once.

The lack of goals from wide areas mean that goalscoring contributions from midfield are more important than ever - and here too there are problems. Michael Carrick is content in his role as a sitting midfielder but his regular partner Thomas Cleverley is showing little sign of developing into the regular scorer that his position surely demands. He has netted just one goal in 26 appearances for club and country so far this season.

At least that's one more than summer signing Marouane Fellaini. The Belgian midfielder has a reputation as a goalscorer after hitting 11 in the league for Everton last year but he has made a disappointing start at United. He is goalless after 11 games for the Red Devils with little more than a red card to show for his efforts. Most alarmingly, it seems that Moyes might envision Fellaini in a deeper role akin to that of Carrick with little responsibility to share the goalscoring burden.
Flawed

This is an issue. Without runners bursting onto the ball from midfield, the tactical approach is fundamentally flawed. With nobody for the strikers to lay the ball off to and no late runs into the box to worry defenders, United must win the initial header... or else. Wayne Rooney has nine goals this season; Van Persie and Welbeck seven each. But opponents know that if they take care of the forwards then the job is effectively done.

Much of the focus for Manchester United supporters this January will be on finding that one midfielder who can transform the team's fortunes. Spanish duo Thiago Alcantara and Cesc Fabregas were missed in the summer and now there is hope that Borussia Dortmund's Ilkay Gundogan can be the difference maker. But how can any midfielder make a huge impact when the team's tactics don't involve playing through the middle of the pitch?

United currently rank bottom of the Premier League for the percentage of their attacking play that goes through the central zone of the field. Last season they were up in eighth. If it's debatable whether that statistic should be interpreted as a negative, consider the company they are keeping - the next three teams on the list are Hull, West Ham and Stoke. This is not a template for a successful style of play.

Is that a product of not having a top-class midfielder at the club or is it just the way Moyes wants his team set up to play? Having spent £27.5million on a central midfielder in the summer, there is a real danger of throwing good money after bad. As a result, perhaps the biggest fear for Manchester United fans is that they are chasing a solution on the pitch to a problem that is standing on their touchline.
from SSN.
 
Over 4 months from this thread being made, I still can't think what our team identity is.

It's almost as if Moyes is just using the default 4-4-2 on football manager. There's nothing to our team at all.

The only excuse I can offer is that this is a team he has inherited rather than created. Maybe once he has a few of his own players in, we will see how he wants to play. Right now though, it's bland as rice.
 
Abysmal.

It is honestly hard to believe how utterly fecking shite this team is at playing with each other, when you look at some of the players we have. What the feck are we doing in training?

Another fecking terrible half.
 
Once again, we looked like a bunch of 11 strangers who had never met each other before had been thrown together into a starting XI.

In stark contrast, Liverpool's players looked like they knew exactly where to move around the pitch in accordance to their teammates, their passing was much crisper and their defence didn't fall apart every time we tried to put an attack together.

I saw plenty of signs that we weren't that cohesive last season but at least certain players like RvP and Carrick were standing up and papering over the cracks. This season, we've been completely exposed.
 
Were such a nothing team going forwards these days. There's no actual method to our attacking play. We spend an awful lot of time and touches basically managing to keep the ball for a string of pointless passes and eventually end up doing something hopeful at the end of it whether it's crossing or long balls.

Liverpool on the other hand have a purpose and method to their attacks. They don't spend half the time playing passes just to reassure themselves that they can. They actually try and create with intelligent and dynamic football.