Our front 3

Rashford - Greenwood
<- Sancho ->​

ive been craving to see Sancho in the middle like a false 9 but a player that is able to roam to either the LW or the RW depending when/where it opens up. It can be in a 352.

it goes from :

Rashford - Greenwood
<- Sancho ->
To
Rashford - Greenwood - Sancho
or
Sancho - Rashford - Greenwood​

depending on Sancho’s roaming to free spaces and playing his through balls in to Rashford or Greenwood from either side.

Maybe it’s unlikely and just a dream
 
RedRonaldo said:
With Ronaldo gone, its seems we only linked with Brobbey as replacement. He scored 7 goals last season so I assume he is better option than Martial, who only has 2 goals.
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If it's ever that simple.

I don't see us signing Brobbey and even if we did, it's very unlikely he's coming as a starter.
 
Idxomer said:
If it's ever that simple.

I don't see us signing Brobbey and even if we did, it's very unlikely he's coming as a starter.
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I actually think ETH isn't conventional type of manager who prefers to start players with bigger reputation/experience. I think he will bench whoever doesn't fit his system, and play whoever fits better, even if that means the player is relatively unknown/unproven.
 
Garethw said:
From an attacking stand point, this is probably the worst position we’ve been in for over 25 years.

It’s all very well signing defenders and midfielders, but if you don’t score goals you don’t win games.

As things stand I just don’t see where the goals are going to come from.
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in martial we trust.
 
I for one am interested to see how EtH deploys his front line and how they function. He's easily the most progressive and forward thinking manager at United the past decade, all respect to LVG.

He's going to set the foundation for future success and unlike many on here, he won't be totally judged on this upcoming season only.

He's going to adjust his style to the players he has in order to get results, but the overall foundations will be laid for the seasons to come.
 
Ali Dia said:
and the players being lazy shits. Without Cavani fighting and digging us out the season before last we would have struggled for top 4 too. There’s just far too little fight in the players we over pay and over hype. I wish it wasn’t the case but I’m so sick of looking at it. Strolling around like they’ve already won and letting inferior teams pin them back and clean them
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Again with this nonsense. By game week 30 of that season Cavani had amassed an incredible 6 league goals. 1 in a 9-0 win and 1 in a draw at home to Everton. By the middle of January he’d scored in two league games. By the middle of April he’d managed to score in another three games.

At game week 30 we were 9 points clear of fifth….By game week 35 we were 10 clear of fifth and CL was confirmed. Yeah all because of Cavani and his incredible impact.
 
Garethw said:
From an attacking stand point, this is probably the worst position we’ve been in for over 25 years.

It’s all very well signing defenders and midfielders, but if you don’t score goals you don’t win games.

As things stand I just don’t see where the goals are going to come from.
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I’m not sure it’s really all that bad. Lets say we get DeJong and Erikson throw Donny and or an actual Bruno with some instructions and coaching and we should have a midfield that can control things and create quality chances and not the Hail Mary not that great chances we have been for the last 2 years.

Sancho, Martial, Amad are all players who could score goals but can quite easily set up opportunities for others. Bruno, Donny, Erikson are all capable goal scorers so I’m expecting the goals to be spread out a bit more other that 1 focal striker.

Ideally though if someone was brought in to replace Martial and someone for the right more experienced than Amad that would be great. Here’s hoping Martial has one of his good seasons so we can spend the year looking for the correct replacement.
 
pacifictheme said:
I hope we try a false 9 with Bruno, with sancho and Antony wide if we sign him. Others as back ups.

I am also hoping Ronaldo is sold now. Let the new era begin, he wants out, pointless to keep him.
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The last time Bruno played as a false 9 he was mediocre. The STK role is a top priority. Its far more important then signing antony
 
el3mel said:
If we don't replace Ronaldo and enter the season depending on Elanga, Sancho and Rashford to score us the goals, then even top 6 will be a pipe dream.

If we replace Ronaldo with Dybala then we're fecked too.
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Dybala is a better option then what we have
 
TH will try and get Erikksen and Bruno into an attacking formation somehow, unless we do sign a striker. Then it will be one or the other on rotation I think. Its hard to see what formation is best at the moment as neither Martial or Rashford have nailed the CF position.
 
I Am Zlatan said:
With Ronaldo leaving, we’re in a really uncomfortable place..

My only hope is that Martial and Rashford regain their 2020 form.
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Yeah totally agree. Not an ideal situation to be in considering how awful both have been.

I can see us going with Rashford/Martial/Sancho interchanging with Elanga as back up and Bruno/Eriksen providing some variety.

Can see us looking for a cheap average established/unknown striker as a back up plan then.
 
Far as i'm concerned, there is no nailed on starter right now in the forward group because they've all performed so poorly. So all of them have pretty equal chance of becoming regulars in my opinion. With that said, Rashford-Bruno-Amad would be the front three i'd try first. Those are our 3 best options in each position (LW, CF/False 9, RW) right now This assumes that the squad stays the way it is for the rest of the transfer window and Ronaldo leaves. But if we add Antony then he instantly takes Amad's spot on the right. Martial, Sancho can take spots in the front 3 if the first 3 don't play well.
 
el3mel said:
Better? Yes. Good option to even finish top 4? Feck no.

We should stop just trying to sign anybody to cover the defects.
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Dybala won 5 league titles, 3 Italian super cup and 4 coppa italia with Juventus. He played in 1 CL finals and was part of the squad who reached the CL final in Berlin. We only have 2 players with a better pedigree at our club ie Ronaldo and DDG.

His time with Juventus is very complex as he had to face ideologies that didn't suit him (ex Allegri whose very defensive) and was shoehorned into roles that weren't suited to him to make way for Ronaldo. I am not saying that he's my no 1 target. However as a free agent he's a no brainer especially in an ETH's time.
 
In 2020, we always asked for Rashford Martial Sancho front three. But I will go with Sancho Rashford Antony.
 
devilish said:
Dybala won 5 league titles, 3 Italian super cup and 4 coppa italia with Juventus. He played in 1 CL finals and was part of the squad who reached the CL final in Berlin. We only have 2 players with a better pedigree at our club ie Ronaldo and DDG.

His time with Juventus is very complex as he had to face ideologies that didn't suit him (ex Allegri whose very defensive) and was shoehorned into roles that weren't suited to him to make way for Ronaldo. I am not saying that he's my no 1 target. However as a free agent he's a no brainer especially in an ETH's time.
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You're making it as if he won these on his own. Let's resign Zlatan then, shall we ?
 
Andersons Dietician said:
Assuming Ronaldo leaves

Sancho—Martial—Amad
Donny———Erikson
Dejong
Shaw-Martinez-Varane-Lindelof​
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Just an insane post.
Martial and Amad as starting forwards?
Donny over Bruno?
Eriksen misspelt.
Lindelof out of position in the back 4?

No no no.

ps No.
 
devilish said:
Dybala won 5 league titles, 3 Italian super cup and 4 coppa italia with Juventus. He played in 1 CL finals and was part of the squad who reached the CL final in Berlin. We only have 2 players with a better pedigree at our club ie Ronaldo and DDG.

His time with Juventus is very complex as he had to face ideologies that didn't suit him (ex Allegri whose very defensive) and was shoehorned into roles that weren't suited to him to make way for Ronaldo. I am not saying that he's my no 1 target. However as a free agent he's a no brainer especially in an ETH's time.
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You watch a lot of Italian football, right? And you're certainly no transfer muppet. So if you say 'yay', I'm on board with this one
 
el3mel said:
You're making it as if he won these on his own. Let's resign Zlatan then, shall we ?
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No one win leagues on his own, apart maybe Maradona. Do I have my doubts about Dybala? Sure. However he is the best forward we can get on cheap. Also note that Juve have stuck him in all the weird positions possible and he did fairly well despite circumstances. To conclude I see him fit into an ETH fluid/hardwork system like a glove.
 
hellhunter said:
You watch a lot of Italian football, right? And you're certainly no transfer muppet. So if you say 'yay', I'm on board with this one
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I do and I understand alot the concern about Dybala. However giving the circumstances (our limited budget, ETH system etc) I think that he would be a decent buy
 
Sandikan said:
Just an insane post.
Martial and Amad as starting forwards?
Donny over Bruno?
Eriksen misspelt.
Lindelof out of position in the back 4?

No no no.

ps No.
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yes yes yes…

back three, Shaw in the half position playing like he did post covid as a LM drifting centrally and getting back to fullback when needed.

Donny is a better footballer than Bruno and it’s about possesion. We have a lack of forward options Martial and Amad can pass a ball something Elanga and Rashford can’t do.
 
Our forward line depends on Sancho, Rashford and possible Gernancho having a breakthrough season.
There’s literally nothing else.
 
Garethw said:
From an attacking stand point, this is probably the worst position we’ve been in for over 25 years.

It’s all very well signing defenders and midfielders, but if you don’t score goals you don’t win games.

As things stand I just don’t see where the goals are going to come from.
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Thank goodness somebody else recognizes this.

I'm holding out hope that one or two attacking players are still going to arrive, because if that doesn't happen we're going to have the most pedestrian attack most of us have ever seen. We will legitimately struggle to even score as many goals as we did last season.

It really burns me that we didn't get Darwin because I think that kid is the real deal. I think he'll score 15+ in the league for Liverpool this season.
 
I heard from sources within the club that Ten Haag and McClaren have been working deep into the night sticking together shredded documents. Ronaldo walked in and said 'Oh for fks sake' and stormed off

The updated leaked document

---------Rashford-----Sancho------
---------Bruno----------Eriksen------
---------Fred-------------De Jong-----
Shaw---Maguire----Varane---Dalot
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Andersons Dietician said:
yes yes yes…

back three, Shaw in the half position playing like he did post covid as a LM drifting centrally and getting back to fullback when needed.

Donny is a better footballer than Bruno and it’s about possesion. We have a lack of forward options Martial and Amad can pass a ball something Elanga and Rashford can’t do.
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Where are you getting the fact that DvB is a better footballer than Bruno? It cannot be from what he's showed at United so presumably it's from what he's shown in the Dutch league. Which is...not a great metric. Aside from that, what have you seen from Martial or Amad to suggest they should be starting?!
 
luke511 said:
He can play on the right but his strongest position is on the left, not that hard to follow.
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If a player is comfortable in a position it should also mean he is effective there and Sancho has not shown that in a Utd shirt.
If you have seen otherwise then please tell me what game it was in or are you referring to YouTube highlights of him in a Dortmund shirt.
 
UpWithRivers said:
I heard from sources within the club that Ten Haag and McClaren have been working deep into the night sticking together shredded documents. Ronaldo walked in and said 'Oh for fks sake' and stormed off

The updated leaked document

---------Rashford-----Sancho------
---------Bruno----------Eriksen------
---------Fred-------------De Jong-----
Shaw---Maguire----Varane---Dalot
--------------------De Gea-------------------
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Do you work for the Daily Star?
 
Bondi77 said:
If a player is comfortable in a position it should also mean he is effective there and Sancho has not shown that in a Utd shirt.
If you have seen otherwise then please tell me what game it was in or are you referring to YouTube highlights of him in a Dortmund shirt.
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I know he was effective there for Dortmund by watching footage of him and looking at the stats, like everyone else. I wasn’t even considering him as a right winger in the first place, strange to choose that point to kick a fuss up over.
 
luke511 said:
I know he was effective there for Dortmund by watching footage of him and looking at the stats, like everyone else. I wasn’t even considering him as a right winger in the first place, strange to choose that point to kick a fuss up over.
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Thought so.
 
Pickle85 said:
Where are you getting the fact that DvB is a better footballer than Bruno? It cannot be from what he's showed at United so presumably it's from what he's shown in the Dutch league. Which is...not a great metric. Aside from that, what have you seen from Martial or Amad to suggest they should be starting?!
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Performances in the champions league against teams like Real Madrid Juventus and the likes. Bruno might have some flashy attributes but given he can’t pass 3 yards and won’t show for a ball or move and tends to just hit hail Mary Passes, Cleverley or Anderson would be better options for a team that hopes to keep possession.
I’m sure Bruno will play and most likely if he joins Erikson will be more of a bench option but ETH is going to have a lot of work to do getting Bruno to the level he needs to be at.

As for Martial and Diallo what other options do we have? Rashford and Elanga aren’t great movers, can’t pass, won’t pass where Martial and Diallo do. If we had better options then no probs they wouldn’t be my preferred options but just trying to make the best out of a bad situation.

Heck there is even a chance Bruno will be deployed off of a wing.
 
JB7 said:
Objectively wrong.
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One can pass, one shows for a ball, one makes good runs in to space that one is not Bruno and until he pulls his head out of his arse and learns to do the simple aspects of football like passing and moving Donny is a better footballer.
 
Andersons Dietician said:
One can pass, one shows for a ball, one makes good runs in to space that one is not Bruno and until he pulls his head out of his arse and learns to do the simple aspects of football like passing and moving Donny is a better footballer.
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Fernandes can't pass or find space? Odd that three different managers preferred him to Donny and that the only two clubs that wanted this footballing messiah on loan in January were 16th and 18th in the table.

I hope we see a much improved DVB going forward but if you think he's been anywhere near Fernandes level for us then you should probably lay off the spice.
 
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