and there you go. 1 round out.
think i was the only person in the entire thread to tip Pac. and you lot ridiculed me for it!
all apologies welcome
Oscar De La Hoya v Manny Pacquiao
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and there you go. 1 round out.
think i was the only person in the entire thread to tip Pac. and you lot ridiculed me for it!
all apologies welcome
Harrison is a joke, an embarassment to himself.
Froch wants Calzaghe but has to face Taylor in a mandatory defence first unless Taylor passes. I don't think Froch would beat either but I hope Froch takes on Taylor.
Froch wants Calzaghe but has to face Taylor in a mandatory defence first unless Taylor passes. I don't think Froch would beat either but I hope Froch takes on Taylor.
FFS Fraudley just stop mate
BTW after all the shit Oscar and GBP has done the world apart from a few Mexicans is happy he lost!
If Jermain starts with that jab it wont be a good look for Carl
Froch v Pascal was the most entertaining and genuine contest I've seen for a very long time. Froch will need to work on his technique a little if he is to continue to progress as a Champion.
Harrison is a joke.
Khan is over rated.
De La Hoya is very, very rich.
Manny Pacquiao is a fighter.
Harrison is a joke.
Khan is over rated.
De La Hoya is very, very rich.
Manny Pacquiao is a fighter.
Luckily for him he doesnt look good anyway
Something about Froch's style that is exciting though, you feel he could KO anyone at anytime but also get done himself, the fight with Pascal was excellent because both had excellent chins. I wouldn't mind seeing a rematch of that on Pascal's turf.Froch has a great chin and what makes it even better is that after taking all those heavy shots he didnt look like he had been in a war. when im sparring if i hit someone i like to see the damage im doing even with headgear so imagine how it must fell to be banging away at someone and they walk through your punches and dont have a mark on their face. it would kill your soul
Mayweather Pac is being touted already. I have Mayweather outclassing him and im getting in early with this one
Mayweather Pac is being touted already. I have Mayweather outclassing him and im getting in early with this one
I would love to see that and if it does happen I can see Oscar V Ricky at wembley stadium. If I was Ricky I would really push for the Manny fight. I know Ricky isn't in Manny's class it would be a great fight.
if Ricky Oscar goes ahead and it probably wont but if it does im there first day getting my ticket and i wont mind spending up to £500 on a decent ticket.
Ricky will push for the Manny fight as he is a fighter and is desperate for the p4p recognition, he thought that he would be recognised as such if he beat Mayweather last year or if he beats Pacquiao but it doesnt work like that. He hasn't got much left to be honest so i would go for the Oscar fight get the money try get the win and bow out on top
pie, anyone? of the humble variety?
I do hope you had some money on it or all your gloating will be a bit premature.
well to be honest, no, i didn't. i'm not a gambler.
i'm just a boxing fan.
and i'm gobsmacked at the ignorance towards Pac's speed, movement and ferocity displayed by all the talkers before this fight. shame on you.
it seemed clear, to me at least, EXACTLY how it would unfurl.
i got ridiculed and insulted for correctly predicting the outcome, i deserve a little gloat.
im worried as to why (im guessing) a full grown man goes through such lengths to prove his point on an internet forum you said it once and you decided to come back. congrats sir are you happy now
you said it once and you decided to come back. congrats sir are you happy nowI am quite happy that PAC MAN won. De La Hoya is done. Retire Golden Boy....
im worried as to why (im guessing) a full grown man goes through such lengths to prove his point on an internet forum
yeah, well you were a real mouthy twat to me when i made the prediction.
what did you expect?
show a little dignity in your proven lack of knowledge
i have to say i expected pac man to win, i cant believe how many people dismissed him, being in his prime and arguably before the fight the best pound for pound fighter in the world, and de la hoya at the end of his career and clearly not the fighter he once was. There seemed to be only 1 outcome for me.
Anyway i came on here to see if anyone has got a link for the full fight so i can watch it again cheers.
RedwhiteBlack you were right, everyone can see it do you really need to rub it in peoples faces and be a know it all?!
Anyway i came on here to see if anyone has got a link for the full fight so i can watch it again cheers.
RedwhiteBlack you were right, everyone can see it do you really need to rub it in peoples faces and be a know it all?!
if just one single person who rubbished me had been a man about it, and simply said 'fair dues', no of course not. read the reaction to my initial post in this forum, and you'll understand.
i'm not a know it all, and when i was insulted earlier in the thread by an ACTUAL 'know it all', all i said was 'we'll see on the night'.
my posts after the battering of Oscar were genuinely playful.
i'd rather be smug about being right, than be bitter about being wrong.
To be fair, Redwhiteblack did get criticised by a few for his prediction. Deserves to have his gloat IMO
Don't think too many in the thread totally dismissed him Fergies Formula.
Even though De La Hoya is older he showed enough in the Mayweather and Forbes fight to think he could compete.
It was more of a 'the good biggun will always beat the good little'un' thing.
Though that logic was obviously thrown out of the window, DLH just did not have it on the night.
Even though De La Hoya is older he showed enough in the Mayweather and Forbes fight to think he could compete.
It was more of a 'the good biggun will always beat the good little'un' thing.
Though that logic was obviously thrown out of the window, DLH just did not have it on the night.
I agree, I just thought the 2 class move up would be too much for Pac Man and Oscar would carry the weight better but as it turned out Oscar was washed up, didn't look up for it and could not see the straight left coming all night long.
@ good big'en usully wins. Th@t sid, Osc@r's lost 4 of his lst 6 fights, now. He needs to c@ll it @ dy. @s for M@nny he's @ brillint fighter, I ws worried, the step up my hve been too much for him.
Why was CLK so happy about De La Hoya losing?
Fair play Pacman, brilliant performance against a shot fighter, very realistic claims to be the best in the world right now, any weight. But I always find it sad when a true legend of the sport - and not only is De La Hoya that, but he's a likeable legend too - goes out on a performance like that, where his age catches up with him and he can't perform to the level we all know he's capable of. I like my champions going out at the top, a difficult thing to do in boxing
Fair play Pacman, brilliant performance against a shot fighter, very realistic claims to be the best in the world right now, any weight. But I always find it sad when a true legend of the sport - and not only is De La Hoya that, but he's a likeable legend too - goes out on a performance like that, where his age catches up with him and he can't perform to the level we all know he's capable of. I like my champions going out at the top, a difficult thing to do in boxing
Lol De La Hoya is a money grabbing cnut, he took this fight thinking let me go out getting paid millions beating on someone naturally smaller than me and it didnt go his way. As the 'Golden Boy' he was gifted decisions against Ike Quartey and Felix Sturm. There are many boxers who I dont mind seeing win and a few that I am fans of but he falls into the category of a boxer who I dislike and there are very few of them
i did congratulate you to sir also but that was a huge upset and i believe your prediction was a guess as good of a guess as it was
The guy 'smaller' than him was arguably the pound for pound best boxer in the world, he was hardly taking this lad on as a gimme, was he?
I think you should acknowledge and celebrate the good guys of boxing, and the legends of boxing. De La Hoya is both, and he doesn't deserve folk like you accusing him of being all about the money. It was a great night for Pacman, but it was a sad night for boxing fans
The Pacman was always going to win, as far as I thought. I couldn't believe the amount of people predicting a De La Hoya win. Despite being a ridiculously good fighter, he's always been a bit overrated and is one of the softest out of the 'elite' fighters I've seen. I'll probably get slated for saying that, but it's the truth.
I'd love to see a Pacquiao - Hatton fight. Although he'd be risking likely defeat, it'll be well worth the risk for Hatton. A win would take him back up there with Calzaghe as one of Britain's greats.
I'd love to see a Pacquiao - Hatton fight. Although he'd be risking likely defeat, it'll be well worth the risk for Hatton. A win would take him back up there with Calzaghe as one of Britain's greats.
no matter how good paquiao is what happened on saturday was an upset and Oscar would not have taken this fight if he thought there was an chance of it happening. Im 20 years old but boxing has been my life so dont tell me oscar is a good guy of boxing, there are very few good guys when it comes to boxing as boxers and promoters are no longer concerned with who is better rather they pad records and wish to protect their fighters in order to get bigger paychecks, Pacquiao is so loved because he would take on anyone how many fighters can say they do too?
Oscar, Schafer, GBP, Arum, Top Rank, DiBella are terrible when it comes to boxing did you see the undercard for the event. Boxing is meant to be a working mans sport yet GBP/Top Rank gave the working people that tosh for 50 dollars in recession America, thank feck i only shelled out 15 quid!
Oscar was a good guy but as with everyone he was changed by the money. I can find you countless boxing forums where the only people mourning are the few mexican fans that he has even real Mexicans dont like the guy.
Rant Over!
Oscar, Schafer, GBP, Arum, Top Rank, DiBella are terrible when it comes to boxing did you see the undercard for the event. Boxing is meant to be a working mans sport yet GBP/Top Rank gave the working people that tosh for 50 dollars in recession America, thank feck i only shelled out 15 quid!
Oscar was a good guy but as with everyone he was changed by the money. I can find you countless boxing forums where the only people mourning are the few mexican fans that he has even real Mexicans dont like the guy.
Rant Over!
i hear that but if Oscar was anywhere near his prime and sadly thats what people thought they would see on saturday it would have been instant death. He would have worked off his jab which despite not being booming like Quartey, would disrupt your plans and actually make you scared to throw. Then he would have been throwing a counter right over your jab and finally you would have seen his killer left hook that would do damage to both body and head and if it didnt knock you out would wind you but either way, if it landed flush the ref was giving you at least an 8 count
CLK, you ever hear much about any Aussie boxers here, such as Billy Dib, Danny Green or Anthony Mundine?
Don't agree. Oscar has never dodge, he's fought big names, and often enough actually he's lost the big fights, but he secured his legend with his championship victories at six weights. He makes fights that peopel want to see, and of course that means big money, but give me that over these folk who pick and choose to pad out anyday
If you don't like him far enough, but plenty of people were sympathetic to an end of an era on Saturday night
And if you think $50 dollars is a lot for an entire night of boxing including the most talked about contest of the year, feck me you should try paying £40 to watch United play a Championship side in the Carling Cup!!!
yh is mundine supermiddleweight got quite a big following could contend for a belt again but there are tons of talent in that bracket
kessler, froch,lacy bute, librade and people like ward and direll on their way up
Dib lost recently and he didnt make a great impression on me in the fight either
kessler, froch,lacy bute, librade and people like ward and direll on their way up
Dib lost recently and he didnt make a great impression on me in the fight either
Lol i actually was going to pay more off gum tree for a QPR ticket made me feel a right fool now.
Nah people's problems with Oscar mine included are his sub standard PPVs, do you remember any fight from the Hatton Mayweather Undercard? beyond Lacy/Manfredo that undercard was tearful he rarely offers value for money.
In terms of ducking fighters, he was called on by a million different fighters in what was meant to be his final fight including Antonio Margarito and Paul Williams both of whom he turned down because im sorry if you thought saturday was bad, then picture him being carried out in a box, that would have been the outcome. I still stand by the fact no feels sympathy for him i can drag you up quotes of the Mexicans supporting Pacquiao if you would like
Dib winning the IBO Featherweight wa sa joke anyway, fought South African fella who easily outpointed yet got the 'home- town' decision depsite it was in Newcastle, not Sydney, a fecking travesty.
Mundine is an enigma; he is quite possibly one of the most talented Australian athletes ever. Was the highest paid rugby league player until his retirement in 2000 when he was 25 to take up boxing. He always pulled the race-card claiming he wasn't picked for being Aboriginal yet Brad Fittler, the captain for NSW and Australia played in his position and also there were many fine players for ages and since of colour who have played for state and country.
As for his boxing, he is lightning quick with power yet his first big fight was Sven Ottke who had only ever dropped four boxers in a 35-fight career til then and he knocked Mundine out and left him sparko on the canvas for ten full minutes much to the delight of many Aussies who hate the cnut, although he does a fair size following too.
He's been fighting has-beens and nobodys ever since and claims superiority despite hardly ever figting outside Australia, and whn Mikkel Kessler came here, the Dane twatted him good and proper. And since has been fighting Aussie no-ones and dinosaurs again which seems to be his modus operandi, easy victories against former good fighters who are now too old to do the biz....Has been claiming for ages he wants to fight Winky Wright who has a mammoth record yet is now about 38 years old.
yh he lost the wba to Kessler, but he does actually have ability. he dropped down to middleweight now. Winky has the best jab in boxing feck it i will say it did you see what he did to Trinidad? and the fact his arms are so long they can protect his whole body means when he gets into that shell you will find it hard to hit him.
Sven Ottke is THE (quote me on this) most protected fighter you will ever see, got a million home town decisions retired undefeated.
Ottke banging Mundine out was what made it so glorious; he went into the fight claiming he was going to destroy Ottke aand for a defensive fighter to knock him down the way he did was amazing.
As I said mae, Mundine has great ability but I wish he would shut the feck up and stop acting like a cock and go fight someone worth fighting instead of Crazy Kim, a lunatic Japanese boxer as he did a couple of fights ago...
lol he needs to sort it out with Winky but he's been on the milk carton for a while now, if he doesn't reappear in 09 he is done. last time i saw him he was commenting on the Jones/Slappy fight and the last time i saw him in gear was against Hopkins in july last year.
Is it just me or are the I always knew Pacquiao would be the clear winner crowd being slightly disingenuous. I was not even one who made a direct prediction and fair play to someone like redwhiteblack who made a clear one before the fight on here and was correct, but come on.
Yes, Pacquiao is a great boxer and an extremely likeable guy with an attractive style; in fact I would go as far as to say he is one of the fighters who have stopped interest in the sport decreasing due in part to a poor heavyweight division. However, a few points:
- The supposed weight advantage claims before the fight were very much real. We are not even talking one weight division here; it is a difference of say 25-34 pounds throughout their careers.
- Yes, De La Hoya is not what he was and has been beaten in recent times, however, nobody expected the type of performance he came out with and it was not totally consistent with that of his recent fights, especially those at welterweight. I mean, it was not that long ago that he got beat by Mayweather by split decision and looked on top at times during the fight.
It is far too easy to point towards his age and take shots at De La Hoya after the fight and maybe his career are done, for me.
Yes, Pacquiao is a great boxer and an extremely likeable guy with an attractive style; in fact I would go as far as to say he is one of the fighters who have stopped interest in the sport decreasing due in part to a poor heavyweight division. However, a few points:
- The supposed weight advantage claims before the fight were very much real. We are not even talking one weight division here; it is a difference of say 25-34 pounds throughout their careers.
- Yes, De La Hoya is not what he was and has been beaten in recent times, however, nobody expected the type of performance he came out with and it was not totally consistent with that of his recent fights, especially those at welterweight. I mean, it was not that long ago that he got beat by Mayweather by split decision and looked on top at times during the fight.
It is far too easy to point towards his age and take shots at De La Hoya after the fight and maybe his career are done, for me.
I just watched the Robin Reid/Ottke fight for the first time, I cannot believe how protected he was, I mean I am no fan of Reid but Ottke was knocked down in the 6th and the ref did not even count him FFS.
Bit off topic but meh.
Bit off topic but meh.
i told u Ottke was over protected there are more cases as well if you can be bothered to look but its well kn own if you are fighting away in germany/europe go for the KO as the judges will feck you over