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what does ronaldinho look like for PSG has anyone seen? and i dont mean his googly face i mean his form
Originally posted by michael owen's mum:
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he's coming good just as the english autumn is arriving when he'll not fancy it again. . .shame.
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You're the team who bought a shed load of sun loving African's this summer.
We'll see how they respond to the British winter shall we.
Seba will don his thermals do the bizz, no worries.
Originally posted by thumper:
<strong>Henry, he is the best forward in the world at the moment and he would give us what we dont have - pace up front. I really dont see what the fuss is about Ronaldinho. I watched all the Brazil WC games but he's certainly no Rivaldo and while he was a good player I must be missing something? Dont seem to hear too much about him with PSG either.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Beg to disagree on all three points.
1. Henry is not the best striker in the world. On the world scene (whatever excuse we may have about the WC tiredness etc) he did not deliver when it mattered to the French team.
2. In the first half in thre WC, England were well in control and the Brazilians at sixes and sevens with RIO snuffing out any attack away... Do you remember the run which ROnaldinho made for the first goal? THATS WHAT UNITED NEED. Someone to provide the magic when things are not moving. What we needed against Bayer in the semis.
2. The reason you have not heard much about him at PSG is cos he hast played. Will be playing his first 90 minutes tonight.
Originally posted by thumper:
<strong>So with Henry not delivering for the French team where would that leave Ruud on the scale of world strikers? Ronny did make a nice run for the 1st goal but £25m based on that?? Joe Cole could do that for half the price.
Having Henry (or Trezaguet or even Owen) up front alongside Ruud would frighten the shite out of the opposition. A couple of years ago we were lightening quick on the counter attack but we dont have that any more, except for Giggs and he cant hit a barn door most of the time. We lack speed up front and except for Micky and Rio we lack speed at the back as well. This is going to give us a lot of problems during the season and is one of the reasons we didn't cut it last year. Its great having a Veron to "break open" a tight european defence but what would make it easier for Seba would be a sprinter up front to play the ball over the top to, we cant do that at the moment.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I dont disagree with you at all. Infact you have echoed every aspect of what I truly believe. However, I feel that just getting someone like Henry / Best in the world etc will not solve the problem (Look at Verons reputation before). I feel that we need pairs that gel together (Eric with Hughes/McClair earlier; Yorke Cole; Sheri Ole) ..Not just a top player. Ruud is a great predator and I really feel he needs someone who can play just behind and maybe someone without a huge reputation.
Originally posted by jcss:
<strong>I prefer Duff over Ronaldindo. He's british.</strong><hr></blockquote>
he's not, but that's just me being pedantic. i agree tho, Duff would be second on my shopping list after Gudjohnsen. ugh i hate talking like this...Ruud is hardly ready for the Traveller's yard (a few games into the season and it sounds like we're forgetting what he's capable of) altho Roko makes a good point about Gudjohnsen being a great foil for Ruud rather than a replacement.
p.s. foil? is that the right word i'm thinking of?
p.p.s. what about Viera? would Arsenal even consider letting him go to United? that would be a coup.
p.p.ps. or Vieri? too old?
Originally posted by sunny:
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I dont disagree with you at all. Infact you have echoed every aspect of what I truly believe. However, I feel that just getting someone like Henry / Best in the world etc will not solve the problem (Look at Verons reputation before). I feel that we need pairs that gel together (Eric with Hughes/McClair earlier; Yorke Cole; Sheri Ole) ..Not just a top player. Ruud is a great predator and I really feel he needs someone who can play just behind and maybe someone without a huge reputation.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I agree to a certain point, Henry would be better than Ronaldinhio. No need for settling time, adjusting to them premiership etc.
In my first post on this issue i suggested Jermaine DeFoe but no-one took any notice. My arguments are simple. DeFoe has really impressed me and done brilliantly in an average team. He is the complete opposite of Ruud. Smaller, quicker and with a better first touch. An ideal foil, with excellent finishing ability
Originally posted by CremboMan:
<strong>Michael Ballack</strong><hr></blockquote>
My choice as well. Someone said Bayern wouldn't sell him. How about 30 million? Or money + Veron?
I like Ballack. He can shoot, pass, head and he's big a strong. Just what United needs. A big body in midfield.
Originally posted by michael owen's mum:
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average french players? 4 in the current french under-21 squad and traore looking the business this season. cheyrou who's recently won his first couple of caps for france. 2 senegalise stars of the world cup.
or the past-it laurent blanc, the error-prone comedian barthez and the good-going-forward-but-ropey-in-defence silvestre. . .</strong><hr></blockquote>
How many under 21s really make an impact at the full level. Look. United had Mark Wilson, Jonathan Greening, Wes Brown and Luke Chadwick to name four who played for Englands under 21s. Only Brown has really established him self a a good full player. But, no one would say that he's realized his potential.
So, Blanc maybe old, but atleast he is a proven player. Like it or not, he'd probably would have started for France in last years WC if he hadn't chosen to retire.
To summerize, it's great to have good propects. But, I wouldn't count on half of them making the grade with the big clubs.
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>Iker Casillas. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Good call, but how fecking much would he cost?? He's unbuyable.
Originally posted by thumper:
<strong>So with Henry not delivering for the French team </strong><hr></blockquote>
He usually plays well for the French team, he hasn't played well recently but usually he does.
Henry is happy with Arsenal. If he leaves it will be for a foreign club.
Originally posted by Elfie:
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He usually plays well for the French team, he hasn't played well recently but usually he does.
Henry is happy with Arsenal. If he leaves it will be for a foreign club.</strong><hr></blockquote>
he'll sign for united next season.
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>Iker Casillas. </strong><hr></blockquote>
He's Spanish, he plays for the most successful team at the moment, why would he leave Real ?
Anyway, the board has bought Ricardo, the priority is certainly not to buy again another keeper.
Originally posted by Elfie:
<strong>I would say "Patrick Vieira". But like Henry, he'll nevre come .
Ronaldinho and Cissé, would be nice if they come.</strong><hr></blockquote>
henry's the best forward in the PL IMO.
agreed about Ronny and cisse.. we need those types of players... they have alot skill and can take players on.
Originally posted by giggzy:
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henry's the best forward in the PL IMO.
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Agreed, at the moment, definately.
Originally posted by cd:
<strong>So what are you implying Livvie?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I wish I had the answer.
Self-belief? Motivation? Dressing-room morale? Finding a style of play that suits the team?
It has to be more than just the players. We've spent 90 million!
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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Self-belief? Motivation? Dressing-room morale? Finding a style of play that suits the team?
It has to be more than just the players. We've spent 90 million!</strong><hr></blockquote>
i know.. and you're right.. however, it wouldn't do us any harm, if we bought another forward.. if its cisse or ronaldhino, then all the better.
Originally posted by giggzy:
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i know.. and you're right.. however, it wouldn't do us any harm, if we bought another forward.. if its cisse or ronaldhino, then all the better.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It wouldn't do us any harm because it's essential.
But it might not solve the problem either.
We need more players, but merely buying isn't the answer.
Originally posted by Elfie:
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He's Spanish, he plays for the most successful team at the moment, why would he leave Real ?
Anyway, the board has bought Ricardo, the priority is certainly not to buy again another keeper.</strong><hr></blockquote>
What's being Spanish got to do with it? And I was just replying to Raoul's original question, nothing to do with whether he'd come or not, just what I would like to see.
I know that you are a Barthez lover (in fact anyone French or that plays in France looking at your other posts), but face facts, he's past it, and I would like to see the future best goalkeeper in the world in our team!
If you don't mind?
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>Me too mate, all we need then is to find someone to give Giggs a good kick up the arse. <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
How did Vicente play for Valencia last term ? Will be keeping an eye on him this year for sure.