Stadjer
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Pogba didnt fail so he shouldnt be named. I would love him in this team though.
The way I read - players that failed but we think could still work this time around.You are not wrong, but the OP said players who failed at United, in my mind that meant anyone, or was it about players who failed at United but were actually good, someone like Mata or Pogba?
He was amazing if you ignorePogba didnt fail so he shouldnt be named. I would love him in this team though.
First to come to mind was Kagawa.
I would go Zlatan before Lukaku.Daniel James, Pellistri could play RWB. Fred would be very good in Midfield. Lukaku also.
I would go Zlatan before Lukaku.
At least we know he’d have scored the chance that Zirkzee passed to Maguire against Liverpool.Forlan.
Several would be quite good in this team. Mkhitaryan, Di Maria, Schneiderlin, Blind, Pogba.
Failed United player?Juan Mata as a 10
Would be awful, to weak and slow to press. Amorim's 10 need to be energetic. Being fair I dont think Mata would fit anywhere in today's top clubs you need a certain amount of physicallity to compete and he's build like a 13 year old.I was going to say this. Probably the perfect role for him. But he would need an overlapping wingback to be fully effective.
High intensity player?Got to be Poggy
You could argue everyone since 2014 failed.Zlatan didn't fail, he did exactly what we got him for
I think he probably was thru no fault of his own given where he asked to play, in his proper position he would have been way betterFailed United player?
Like Amad whos' aslo built like a 13YOWould be awful, to weak and slow to press. Amorim's 10 need to be energetic. Being fair I dont think Mata would fit anywhere in today's top clubs you need a certain amount of physicallity to compete and he's build like a 13 year old.
He was amazing if you ignore
1. Being extremely inconsistent
2. Being injured quite often
3. Him and his agent being extremely toxic and literally damaging the club for selfish reasons
Amad is small, but he's fast and actually quite strong for his size (look at the amount of times he holds off players much bigger than him). He's far more athletically gifted than Mata ever was.Like Amad whos' aslo built like a 13YO
He wouldn't be played.Pogba didnt fail so he shouldnt be named. I would love him in this team though.
Not a bad choice. Welbeck would be a good choice also, or Anderson.Rafael but he comes with Fabio
Pogba was actually less inconsistent that almost any of our other players during his first four years. It's just that the expectations were much higher on him than anyone else and he was held to a much higher standard. That's not to say he was consistent as of course he wasn't, but you'd be hard-pressed to name any players who were more consistent than him over those four years. His last two seasons were obviously a complete failure as injuries took their toll though.He was amazing if you ignore
1. Being extremely inconsistent
2. Being injured quite often
3. Him and his agent being extremely toxic and literally damaging the club for selfish reasons
He wouldn't be played.
NoJuan Mata as a 10
Literally the opposite of how it works. Every midfielder runs and works hard, 0 passengers. He wouldn't play.Ofcourse he would have. There are 4 midfielders in Amorim his tactic. If one of those four midfield spots is taken by Ugarte to do the dirty work for Pogba, Prime Pogba would shine in any of the other 3 positions.
You could probably say the same for Radamel Falcao as wellCavani. I’m having him as a flop on the basis he never seemed to be available and left too soon.
But prime Cavani would be the biggest improvement. High work rate, good finisher, decent hold up play.
You could probably say the same for Radamel Falcao as well
Literally the opposite of how it works. Every midfielder runs and works hard, 0 passengers. He wouldn't play.
Playing for your national team or Italian team is nothing compared to the pl for pace and workload. They play far slow and are far less physical, they are not comparable.He worked hard enough to be in Allegri and Conte midfields. You dont get in those without running. He was a vital part of a world cup winning midfield. Those midfields seemed to work and he worked hard enough for those midfields.
Prime Pogba would 100% be a star in this team.
Not every midfielder needs to run as much as prime Kante or current Ugarte does. Obviously you cant have a midfielder not running at all but certainly before the injuries Pogba was running and working hard enough.
It never amazes to shock me how downplayed Pogba his ability is on this forum. Just because he didnt live up to unrealistic expectation before he became a perma crock.
We'd be challenging for a CL spot if we had the Cavani we had (but fit).Cavani. I’m having him as a flop on the basis he never seemed to be available and left too soon.
But prime Cavani would be the biggest improvement. High work rate, good finisher, decent hold up play.