Beachryan
More helpful with spreadsheets than Phurry
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A long time ago, we signed a certain anthropomorphised cleaning mop with the clear intention of giving an option for moving the ball from our box to somewhere, anywhere else on the pitch. Unfortunately said mop was not very good at football, but what an option it was. The last trophy we won was largely due to said mop.
Today, we lack a mop. And anytime a team with a decent high press come and do said press, we crumble. We could have conceded twice before Brighton's first goal yesterday. We'll concede chances to Brentford for the same reason. We are undeniably the worst 'major' team in European football at countering the press. Our fellow top 6 teams are all better at it than us. So. From an entirely uneducated, just watching what is going on analysis, here we go:
What are the problems and potential solutions?
Prob: Teams can pin us back by isolating the full backs with the ball. Shaw is actually pretty good, AWB was the worst I've ever seen and Dalot is hardly better.
Solution: Buy a RB that is confident on the ball, and able to play a good ball up the line to Sancho, OR a good ball back towards the middle. Or perish the thought, beat their man.
Prob: Our CBs are relatively good on the ball, but have no one but the full backs to pass to. Typically, only one of our CMs comes back, and is closely marked. Neither of McFred can turn a man - indeed Brighton's first goal was from Scott failing at this.
Solution: Buy Frenkie. Or - and stay with me here - bring BOTH CMs back like every other team on Earth playing 4231. Force the opposition to commit its entire central midfield up the pitch, leaving space behind.
Prob: Bruno Fernandes. If McFred ain't helping don't worry cause our technical number 10 is coming! Right? Well, no. For one, he only ever helps on the left side. No idea why. Two, he's more likely to f*ck things up then help, because he'll try an outside of the boot trick shot volley off the cross bar to De Gea before he'll play a simple one-two like a normal footballer. Or he'll feel a brush of air on his back and crumble, leaving us entirely exposed.
Solution: Coach. Bruno. Fernandes. To. Stop. Being. A. Wasteful. Footballer. I refuse to believe this is impossible. You want to play Bruno? You lose the ball 5 times in your own half and you don't play next week. You want to play Bruno? Pass completion in your own half over 90%. Oh also, for the love of God go help out on the right side sometimes.
All that kinda points towards just not faffing about with the relatively new idea of tiki-taka-ing from the keeper. I'm actually down with this - our best years post Fergie have been with us more direct. We also concede a ludicrous number of stupid goals this way. But, one more problem:
Prob: We have the worst forward line in the league at retaining a long ball. Sancho is great, but tiny and I'm not sure if he knows he's allowed to jump. Rashford is awesome at jumping and heading the ball 20 yards from a teammate. Ronaldo doesn't do holdup play, unless it's the one backheel per match as per the contract.
Solution: Have Ronaldo - who despite all his flaws is a monster in the air - be the target to knock it through to a rushing Rashford. Basically the Drogba 'house' model. Or, buy a CF who can play as a CF.
So all of this is pretty obvious. But since Jose's approach, not one manager has sorted it out. If we can't buy solutions, SURELY there is coaching that can be done to alleviate this. My biggest solution - and it must be harder than it looks - is do the Spanish approach that works against us - bore the opponent out of the press. Bring back everyone but 2 fast wingers into our half, and just pass it short in triangles for 2 minutes, til the little buzzing bees get tired. Be patient, don't feel like we need to rush.
But something needs fixing for sure.
Today, we lack a mop. And anytime a team with a decent high press come and do said press, we crumble. We could have conceded twice before Brighton's first goal yesterday. We'll concede chances to Brentford for the same reason. We are undeniably the worst 'major' team in European football at countering the press. Our fellow top 6 teams are all better at it than us. So. From an entirely uneducated, just watching what is going on analysis, here we go:
What are the problems and potential solutions?
Prob: Teams can pin us back by isolating the full backs with the ball. Shaw is actually pretty good, AWB was the worst I've ever seen and Dalot is hardly better.
Solution: Buy a RB that is confident on the ball, and able to play a good ball up the line to Sancho, OR a good ball back towards the middle. Or perish the thought, beat their man.
Prob: Our CBs are relatively good on the ball, but have no one but the full backs to pass to. Typically, only one of our CMs comes back, and is closely marked. Neither of McFred can turn a man - indeed Brighton's first goal was from Scott failing at this.
Solution: Buy Frenkie. Or - and stay with me here - bring BOTH CMs back like every other team on Earth playing 4231. Force the opposition to commit its entire central midfield up the pitch, leaving space behind.
Prob: Bruno Fernandes. If McFred ain't helping don't worry cause our technical number 10 is coming! Right? Well, no. For one, he only ever helps on the left side. No idea why. Two, he's more likely to f*ck things up then help, because he'll try an outside of the boot trick shot volley off the cross bar to De Gea before he'll play a simple one-two like a normal footballer. Or he'll feel a brush of air on his back and crumble, leaving us entirely exposed.
Solution: Coach. Bruno. Fernandes. To. Stop. Being. A. Wasteful. Footballer. I refuse to believe this is impossible. You want to play Bruno? You lose the ball 5 times in your own half and you don't play next week. You want to play Bruno? Pass completion in your own half over 90%. Oh also, for the love of God go help out on the right side sometimes.
All that kinda points towards just not faffing about with the relatively new idea of tiki-taka-ing from the keeper. I'm actually down with this - our best years post Fergie have been with us more direct. We also concede a ludicrous number of stupid goals this way. But, one more problem:
Prob: We have the worst forward line in the league at retaining a long ball. Sancho is great, but tiny and I'm not sure if he knows he's allowed to jump. Rashford is awesome at jumping and heading the ball 20 yards from a teammate. Ronaldo doesn't do holdup play, unless it's the one backheel per match as per the contract.
Solution: Have Ronaldo - who despite all his flaws is a monster in the air - be the target to knock it through to a rushing Rashford. Basically the Drogba 'house' model. Or, buy a CF who can play as a CF.
So all of this is pretty obvious. But since Jose's approach, not one manager has sorted it out. If we can't buy solutions, SURELY there is coaching that can be done to alleviate this. My biggest solution - and it must be harder than it looks - is do the Spanish approach that works against us - bore the opponent out of the press. Bring back everyone but 2 fast wingers into our half, and just pass it short in triangles for 2 minutes, til the little buzzing bees get tired. Be patient, don't feel like we need to rush.
But something needs fixing for sure.