Omar Berrada | Man Utd CEO

He’s a smart guy so he’ll know what it takes to make us become successful. He was crucial for city.
 
"We should just pay 15m for Ashworth."

This is exactly why we shouldn't.
 
Not getting fleeced could take a couple of summers to repair. It might mean a few painful transfer windows but if the club really wants to not have a reputation for being easy marks then we might have to put up with some miserable business.

That won't stop people on here throwing their toys out of the pram. It's either "just pay the money!" or "walk away"
 
Tom Van Persie said:
The perfect fit for what INEOS are trying to do. The days of us over paying for average players in terms of fees and wages are over. The club will be very mindful with spending money moving forward.

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I'm guessing you haven't seen what we're offering Branthwaite in wages after one good season in the prem?
 
Devil_forever said:
I'm guessing you haven't seen what we're offering Branthwaite in wages after one good season in the prem?
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I wouldn't class Branthwaite as an average player and most of the time reported figures are off especially before a transfer is even close to being completed.
 
horsechoker said:
Not getting fleeced could take a couple of summers to repair. It might mean a few painful transfer windows but if the club really wants to not have a reputation for being easy marks then we might have to put up with some miserable business.

That won't stop people on here throwing their toys out of the pram. It's either "just pay the money!" or "walk away"
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This is where the proper structure will prove it's worth. If say Everton and Benfica won't budge on their excessive price tags for Branthwaite and Neves, we should have other targets to work with.

I think those are the only two options with some teams "pay the money" or "walk away" and that's why I don't think we'll sign Neves.
 
Devil_forever said:
I'm guessing you haven't seen what we're offering Branthwaite in wages after one good season in the prem?
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We don't know the structure of the pay package do we? What is reported is likely the max based on a host of stuff that would require the team/himself to be successful.
 
Devil_forever said:
Ah yes the times are known for just making shit up.
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No, but they feed of information from agents. And agents have incentives of talking up the wages offered to their players. Furthermore, we dont not know the details. Maybe £140-150k is true, but that it is what he could potentially make (if he play every game, Man Utd qualify for CL etc). We dont know.
 
wolvored said:
All of the rags do. There isnt one outlet that gets things right most of the time. Remember the Guardian and TH will be sacked?
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This is ridiculous. I am getting sick of people basically shitting on journalists jobs.

Because, maybe at the time, their information was correct at the time of writing. They don't just write and publish, it has to go through an editor too. Things change. Maybe EtH was due to be sacked after the FA Cup Final, but the manner in which we won, maybe they changed their minds?

None of the well respected outlets, Guardian, Times, Athletic just 'make shit up' for the fun of it. Making a mockery of a job that takes years to get a role in.

I would suspect the branthwaite reported wages from The Times have been well sourced and verified to an extent.

I'd hardly blame "The Times" as a rag too.

Funny how you all say (you as in the general term of the word 'you') all claim BS when it's good news but when it's bad news it's water tight and to be believed. It's a joke the way journalists get treated. If we don't believe anything they write, let's just ignore everything until the club reports it.
 
UnitedSofa said:
This is ridiculous. I am getting sick of people basically shitting on journalists jobs.

Because, maybe at the time, their information was correct at the time of writing. They don't just write and publish, it has to go through an editor too. Things change. Maybe EtH was due to be sacked after the FA Cup Final, but the manner in which we won, maybe they changed their minds?

None of the well respected outlets, Guardian, Times, Athletic just 'make shit up' for the fun of it. Making a mockery of a job that takes years to get a role in.

I would suspect the branthwaite reported wages from The Times have been well sourced and verified to an extent.

I'd hardly blame "The Times" as a rag too.

Funny how you all say (you as in the general term of the word 'you') all claim BS when it's good news but when it's bad news it's water tight and to be believed. It's a joke the way journalists get treated. If we don't believe anything they write, let's just ignore everything until the club reports it.
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Correct
 
andersj said:
No, but they feed of information from agents. And agents have incentives of talking up the wages offered to their players. Furthermore, we dont not know the details. Maybe £140-150k is true, but that it is what he could potentially make (if he play every game, Man Utd qualify for CL etc). We dont know.
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140k per week is a very large increase on the 40k per week he gets at Everton though, SJR seems like someone who would want to keep the purse strings tight so we may well be offering less than what has been reported.
 
RedRocket9908 said:
140k per week is a very large increase on the 40k per week he gets at Everton though, SJR seems like someone who would want to keep the purse strings tight so we may well be offering less than what has been reported.
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As I said, it depends on how our new wage structure will be. I really hope a huge part of it will be based on number of games in squad, number of starts or similar.

If £140k a week is based on him starting every game it is not bad. Furthermore, £40k a week was his contract before he was a starter at Everton. Even as a starter at Everton he would get an significantly improved contract. Going from youngster in squad at Everton to a £50 mill player chased by top 6 club will obviously increase his salary even more.
 
horsechoker said:
Not getting fleeced could take a couple of summers to repair. It might mean a few painful transfer windows but if the club really wants to not have a reputation for being easy marks then we might have to put up with some miserable business.

That won't stop people on here throwing their toys out of the pram. It's either "just pay the money!" or "walk away"
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Honestly it’s the extremes in some posts I don’t get. Things are either the best or the worst of the worst. Context doesn’t exist for some.
 
UnitedSofa said:
None of the well respected outlets, Guardian, Times, Athletic just 'make shit up' for the fun of it. Making a mockery of a job that takes years to get a role in.
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That's just not true, many write speculative stories in the hope of being able to secure an exclusive. They do it because they can, unlike broadcast journalists who can face serious sanctions by writing or talking about made up garbage, print journos can basically write what they want, hence finding credible newspaper writers is difficult.

There's a reason a lot of newspaper writers are called hacks. They've created their reputation for themselves and make a good living from it so you can forgive people for not giving them much sympathy.
 
mikeyt said:
That's just not true, many write speculative stories in the hope of being able to secure an exclusive. They do it because they can, unlike broadcast journalists who can face serious sanctions by writing or talking about made up garbage, print journos can basically write what they want, hence finding credible newspaper writers is difficult.

There's a reason a lot of newspaper writers are called hacks. They've created their reputation for themselves and make a good living from it so you can forgive people for not giving them much sympathy.
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Yes, 'speculative' based off of information given to them by sources.

By all means I don't doubt the gossip pages of other newspapers do make things up, but places like The Times don't do that.

But please explain to me how making shite up, or 'speculative stories' as you've put it, lead them to gain enough trust to do an exclusive with someone. That simply doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
 
Won't be satisfied until a new stadium, new training ground are built and underperforming players leave.
 
mikeyt said:
That's just not true, many write speculative stories in the hope of being able to secure an exclusive. They do it because they can, unlike broadcast journalists who can face serious sanctions by writing or talking about made up garbage, print journos can basically write what they want, hence finding credible newspaper writers is difficult.

There's a reason a lot of newspaper writers are called hacks. They've created their reputation for themselves and make a good living from it so you can forgive people for not giving them much sympathy.
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Thank you. Anyone who believes that journalists tell the truth and only the truth are either naive or stupid.
 
Tom Van Persie said:
The perfect fit for what INEOS are trying to do. The days of us over paying for average players in terms of fees and wages are over. The club will be very mindful with spending money moving forward.
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I'd wait before making such bold declarations.
 
Im a little surprised Omar Berrada‘s reputation appears untainted by the unresolved City case (115).

It’s like hiring the best executive from Enron (pre Bankruptcy) with the hopes of replicating their “success”. I do hope I’m wrong.
 
McLvnsMuse said:
Im a little surprised Omar Berrada‘s reputation appears untainted by the unresolved City case (115).

It’s like hiring the best executive from Enron (pre Bankruptcy) with the hopes of replicating their “success”. I do hope I’m wrong.
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He was in a pretty low role (relatively speaking) when those potential things happened.

To be fair, he was never that high executive in City. Their two main executives were the CEO and the Director of Football.
 
tentan said:
Won't be satisfied until a new stadium, new training ground are built and underperforming players leave.
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Well if you’re going to moan about it for them next 10 years then do us a favour, log off and come back when it’s completed and you’re a bit more cheery
 
McLvnsMuse said:
Im a little surprised Omar Berrada‘s reputation appears untainted by the unresolved City case (115).

It’s like hiring the best executive from Enron (pre Bankruptcy) with the hopes of replicating their “success”. I do hope I’m wrong.
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It will be interesting to see the verdict but it depends on his role there for the specific years under investigation. In truth, the only people I think any authority will go after will be those in emails as there's not way they can deny being aware they were cheating, everyone else can likely deny they actually knew what was happening, so Simon Pearce, Andrew Widdowson, Peter Baumgartner and a load of UAE guys who will be untouchable. Assume Cook as well was in the know until he was forced to resign.
 
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