Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%
  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%

  • Total voters
    3,423
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I think he is absolutely on his last chance. No trophy and he will be gone at the end of the season. Fergie will make sure he is not sacked before then.
 
Why hurt? He is/was sending us back to mediocrity.

If you love footbal, you wanted this project to succeed. Especially those of us who are old enough to have followed the cubs intimately since the 80s and 90s
 
I won't lie. Manchester United fans celebrating and cheering that Ole gets fired is going to hurt.

It’s never a cause for celebration when any manager gets sacked, as it’s a sign that things have gone drastically wrong. And there is only uncertainty looking forward.
 
Unfortunately I still think we are stuck with him but can't help the false feelings of hope

Trouble is, he he manages to get a couple of draws/ wins, he will get even more time before falling back into the inevitable slump, repeating the pattern that keeps happening

Thats the problem, I might he is now going to go back into full defensive tactics to save his job. Its just not sustainable, we have been here too often with him. This is like the 4th time his job has been under question, he manages somehow to keep it and we end up there again.

Surely, there has to be a point where you think, enough is enough.
 
I won't lie. Manchester United fans celebrating and cheering that Ole gets fired is going to hurt.

It's not a celebration, but a relief, and then the obvious worry about what the board will do next.
 
I wanted him to do well, though have long had doubts. They are better to do it now rather than prolong what must be done, as it could get even more toxic than yesterday.

He's becoming a laughing stock take the Liverpool fans singing the Ole song, that says everything

It's time to thank him for the cultural reboot and sack him. Today. He should never have been renewed as the signs have been there a long time.

It will be relief too as I want Manchester United to do well and we have the squad to do so. Yesterday was humiliating I was actually shaking at half time!
 
I won't lie. Manchester United fans celebrating and cheering that Ole gets fired is going to hurt.
I don’t think there will be much celebrating. I might have myself a beer and a little champagne out of pure relief though.
 
Why hurt? He is/was sending us back to mediocrity.

Because he's a club legend. He was put in this position by morons who should have gone for tried and tested to start with.

These horrible parasites put this on the fanbase and played with our emotions for a club legend. Of course we'd get behind him as it was Ole.
 
Who wanted SAF sacked? That's a very different circumstance - Fergie is our most successful manager ever, Ole has failed to win anything as of yet and the performances have been tragic.
If urban legend is to be believed, he was one game from getting the push back in 1990. An FA Cup tie at Forest, IIRC. Mark Robins scored the winner, and you went on to win the cup, beating Palace after a replay.
 
If you love footbal, you wanted this project to succeed. Especially those of us who are old enough to have followed the cubs intimately since the 80s and 90s
Too much romanticism involved, it's a cut throat business. Of course everyone would have wanted us to win trophies under him, we'd have wanted the same under Jose, LvG and Moyes though, did it hurt when we sacked them? But if the manager isn't good enough, he's not good enough and needs to be given his p45 and shown the door.
 
Because he's a club legend. He was put in this position by morons who should have gone for tried and tested to start with.

These horrible parasites put this on the fanbase and played with our emotions for a club legend. Of course we'd get behind him as it was Ole.

I mean the owners are trash but you're going to blame them for our fans being delusional? The fan base needs to take some responsibility for falling for it.
 
Because he's a club legend. He was put in this position by morons who should have gone for tried and tested to start with.

These horrible parasites put this on the fanbase and played with our emotions for a club legend. Of course we'd get behind him as it was Ole.
Sounds to me like you're absolving Ole of all blame for the recent results and they lay at the feet of Woodward, the Glazers, Murtough etc?
 
I mean the owners are trash but you're going to blame them for our fans being delusional? The fan base needs to take some responsibility for falling for it.

He's tried his best but ultimately not good enough. Is that on him or is that a bad recruitment decision?

The abuse has all been aimed at Ole and not the morons who employed him as usual. That's the only part of this I take issue with. Ole needs to go but Ole outers can't see where the bigger problem is. It's the owners.
 
I hope he goes soon before he's remembered by future generations as a clown manager rather a footballing legend for the club.
 
I’m not going to get into an argument on whether he should or shouldn’t be sacked, but I really hope all those that are scrambling to get him the bullet remember this when it comes to the next choice of manager,

The short sightedness is the thing that bothers me the most. I’m not a staunch ‘Ole in’ person but for me, you only sack him if there’s a better alternative. This isn’t a job for Zidane, despite his record, he hasn’t had a rebuilding job like Utd. Conte is Jose mark 2, the football he plays is tumescent nonsense. I am truly dreading the thought of him getting the job, it’ll be awful to watch us with him in charge.

So who is going to take us to the level where we think we should be and a more important question, do we really trust the board to make the correct decision here?
 
Sounds to me like you're absolving Ole of all blame for the recent results and they lay at the feet of Woodward, the Glazers, Murtough etc?

Nope. Not good enough ultimately. Who employed him? Do they not deserve any blame then for putting us in this position? Of course not. It's all on Ole isn't it with you lot.
 
It's coming in the next 24 hours. He will be gone, will always love him as a club legend. Gave it his all and he just wasn't good enough.

No shame in that, it's for the higher ups to rectify this, not Ole. He will be hurting more than anyone in the club and even the fan base. But it's time for the next step in the progression.
 
He's tried his best but ultimately not good enough. Is that on him or is that a bad recruitment decision?

The abuse has all been aimed at Ole and not the morons who employed him as usual. That's the only part of this I take issue with. Ole needs to go but Ole outers can't see where the bigger problem is. It's the owners.

They expect him to forgo his severance fee. Which managers apparently do all the time.
 
I won't lie. Manchester United fans celebrating and cheering that Ole gets fired is going to hurt.
I will be relieved. It will be extremely difficult for us to win the CL or PL (not just this season) with 3 other top clubs and managers in the PL, so at least we won’t have to read any longer how Ole is wasting such a talented squad.
Both things apply at the same time as far as I am concerned:
- Ole won’t win CL or PL with us
- Any other manager will have a 25% chance to win the PL IF he is good and things actually work out.
 
I won't lie. Manchester United fans celebrating and cheering that Ole gets fired is going to hurt.
It's for the best. We can still love Ole, I don't think any of us will be celebrating that he is hurt, far from it.

I still have a lot of respect for Ole the player, but lets be honest the manager is no good. Chelsea went through a similar predicament, do you think they feel bad for it now?

Ole has had plenty of time and is showing no signs of progression. If he cant win matches with a squad like ours, what hope does he have?
 
Its a matter of time now, don't panic people it will happen. This isn't a relative quick motion, there are things that need to be sorted. Ole's severance package, who will take charge this weekend. Then ofcourse there is the small matter of replacing him, sorting out the contracts and payment terms for the new manager. These things take time.

On a personal note, I am truly and genuinely sad it ended this way for Ole, he loves the club and tried his absolute best. He will be hurting no doubt but time away from the game will be good for him, not to mention spending time with his family. I hope he finds success at another club.
 
He's tried his best but ultimately not good enough. Is that on him or is that a bad recruitment decision?

The abuse has all been aimed at Ole and not the morons who employed him as usual. That's the only part of this I take issue with. Ole needs to go but Ole outers can't see where the bigger problem is. It's the owners.

That would absolve anyone from any blame of anything whatsoever as long as they have a boss.

So, it's on both of them. But of course with your posting I guess I should just assume you don't want to hold him accountable for anything at all.
 
I won't lie. Manchester United fans celebrating and cheering that Ole gets fired is going to hurt.

Why? He lost the Europa League final and didn’t resign. He got battered against Liverpool and insists he’s staying on. He’s been very well paid for a job that he’s massively out of his depth in.
 
Nope. Not good enough ultimately. Who employed him? Do they not deserve any blame then for putting us in this position? Of course not. It's all on Ole isn't it with you lot.
They do but the majority of the blame is with Ole. He's spent been backed in every transfer window, been given money to add to the backroom staff and look how it's ended.

Your wording makes it sound like you're blaming Woodward for these results because he's the one who hired Ole.

No one comes out of this situation with any credence, players included and I hope some are shown the door (when possible) after the recent pathetic performances
 
I’m not going to get into an argument on whether he should or shouldn’t be sacked, but I really hope all those that are scrambling to get him the bullet remember this when it comes to the next choice of manager,

The short sightedness is the thing that bothers me the most. I’m not a staunch ‘Ole in’ person but for me, you only sack him if there’s a better alternative. This isn’t a job for Zidane, despite his record, he hasn’t had a rebuilding job like Utd. Conte is Jose mark 2, the football he plays is tumescent nonsense. I am truly dreading the thought of him getting the job, it’ll be awful to watch us with him in charge.

So who is going to take us to the level where we think we should be and a more important question, do we really trust the board to make the correct decision here?
Our football already is tumescent nonsense and awful to watch. our most exciting games are when the opposition is cutting through us at will.
 
I think he is absolutely on his last chance. No trophy and he will be gone at the end of the season. Fergie will make sure he is not sacked before then.

I think even Fergie has had enough of Ole after yesterday if him leaving early is anything to go by
 
Carragher talks a lot of sense and I completelyagree with everything he says in this article. Neville less so

https://www.skysports.com/football/...-carragher-says-man-utd-need-a-better-manager
You know the world has gone to hell when a Liverpool man has more sense regarding the clubs future and state than an ex United man.

Neville has been an embarrassment with his incredibly biased and short sighted takes. He was the laughingstock of social media yesterday after that idiotic statement implying that we shouldn't hire elite managers simply because LVG and Mourinho (both passed their prime when hired) failed, shame Carragher was the voice of reason.
 


He's bloody exhausating


Yeah. Even though the players are also massively at fault, he refuses to look at the gigantic elephant in the room (funny when Ole used that phrase with regards to the Rashford thing) which Carragher and Souness tried to point out to him as a child, that if he can't get them to perform, what does he want to do? Get 20 new players and ship the others all out?
 
Seriously though, what on earth was he thinking?
Deciding to press Liverpool (one of the strongest pressers about) after having barely any experience of doing it to teams.
It was simply ridiculous.
 
If you love footbal, you wanted this project to succeed. Especially those of us who are old enough to have followed the cubs intimately since the 80s and 90s
It would have been great for the short term if it had succeeded; but for the long term it would have entrenched the clubs views that "The United Way" of giving managers time and full reign of the club is the way forward. This view has led to the mediocrity we see every week. The death of "The United Way" is something I am looking forward to. Managers should be given time based on merit, results and potential, nothing else.
 
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