Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%
  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%

  • Total voters
    3,423
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Fingers crossed, bubbly on ice. I have been able to seperate the legend and manager, so I will be over the moon if he goes and I'm not at all ashamed to say it. People saying about it will be same with next manager etc I couldn't give a monkeys. Ole has proven to me he is a very poor manager and he doesn't deserve another minute in the job.
 
But is that going to be enough for you? Once the Ole out frustration has gone aren't you just going to want Hassenhuttl out too because he isn't good enough either? Because he simply isn't. He's not going to win us anything either.

I think they will put someone in charge to steady the ship and try and get a top coach in summer now. I genuinely don't see a world class coach joining us now in this position anyway. They'd want a clean slate.

How would you know he isn't good enough. He keeps a team in the PL that wouldn't look out of place in league 3. Year after year. Playing actually pretty good football too. Same with the other options. All good managers that might turn us into a winning side again. That's all that matters. What we really really shouldn't do now is get someone from within the club. That would be the nail in the coffin. We need to get rid off Ole and his whole caching team.
 
These are good signs, club action straight away is totally different to post Pool and City. I think he will be gone. Thank holy feck. Hope it will be Zidane for short term at least.
 
I would if I am revered and a legend at the company.. not only moral responsibility but fiduciary too.
If you're talking about fiduciary responsibility, don't you think that lies with ownership? Again, how many managers do you hear about resigning because they're not up to scratch? The club gave him a contract. Utterly mental to put responsibility for him going on him.
 
Didn't know that and good on him. Sounds like he has a good heart,, pleasantly surprised at that as well.

Club legend or not, I'd still not hand my notice in if it meant losing out on £10+m and instead securing my family's financial future for a generation or two

This could apply during Sir Bobby's time when players used to retire slightly richer then the average guy. However players of Ole's era retire as millionaires. Unlike what many think Ole's career won't end once United sack him. He'll probably manage in countries like Scotland and Norway and if he plays his cards well he'll get a job in the EPL after that. So he can afford leaving United without shitting on his legacy first.
 
I’m believing nothing until I see an official club statement saying he’s sacked, and even then I don’t think I’ll be 100% convinced he’s really gone until I see someone else in the dugout for the next game.

Mate, he was never escaping this latest defeat. We all knew it deep down, despite the boards incompetence.
 
As if this wasn’t the only ever outcome. It’s been apparent for weeks he’d lost the dressing room so why the feck have they needlessly flushed more points down the toilet by keeping him on? They’re incompetency never ceases to amaze me. Unbelievable.

It's a real head-scratcher.
 
How would you know he isn't good enough. He keeps a team in the PL that wouldn't look out of place in league 3. Year after year. Playing actually pretty good football too. Same with the other options. All good managers that might turn us into a winning side again. That's all that matters. What we really really shouldn't do now is get someone from within the club. That would be the nail in the coffin. We need to get rid off Ole and his whole caching team.

You want Ole out so badly you're just clutching at straws with these suggestions.

Is Hassenhuttl going to ever finish ahead of Man City (with Pep or whoever), Klopp's Liverpool or Tuchel's Chelsea?

No he isn't.

If they can get Zidane, even though he doesn't appear to be chomping at the bit, then that's our best bet.
 
We finished SEVENTH with a team that just won the title the previous year. If you're genuinely putting a negative goal difference in November below that on your scale, feck me.

And that was literally the last time we had any sort of high standards. Moyes capitulated because we expected to cruise to yet another league title. The rest haven't had those standards applied. Ole is comfortable knowing he can lose to Liverpool 5-0 at home and fans will still applaud him off.
 
Other clubs seem to change managers and improve relatively straightforwardly. However standards are different. We’re looking for a guy capable of doing better than relegating Cardiff - that could take months.
 
I wonder if Ed Woodward reckons he could be an interim manager.
 
Laurie Whitwell (@lauriewhitwell) Tweeted:
Solskjaer with a fairly brief post-match press conference.

"I always have belief in myself. It's a difficult time for us. I can trust every single one out there to give their all. The staff are fantastic. But the results are difficult. I believe we can turn this around." #MUFC
 
He has been backed to the hilt. He is just as complicit, if not more so. He should have walked. He always maintained it was his love for the club, but here he is, taking it through its darkest days in the PL with a smile on his face and a holiday.

He is doing massive damage to the club, losing players with value on free transfers, insisting with those that don’t perform and the likes of Ronaldo and Cavani, leaders we could have used to build for the future, will walk away.

He is tanking his legacy for me. I am not putting it all on the owners when they have backed him so heavily.

Completely agree.

Oh according to his post match interview it's "part of football"

Absolutely inexcusable
 
Surely that has to be it?

A sad day for everyone but United fans, ironical considering their team lost.
 
Lots of people are going to celebrate when he eventually goes. Come back to me in 2 years time when we will be in the exact same situation and everyone is calling for whatever manager who's in charge then to get sacked.

Once you put your anger away and man up to the fact that we are nothing but a stock exchange market club under this stinking regime then life will be easier for you.

Want change? Stop going to home games. Boycott the club completely. The alternative is to let the current owners keep on severely damaging the club.

Really it's in the hands of the fans but they keep playing right into the hands of the Glazers.

You see, thats our problem right there, regardless of Ole getting sack or not, or you wanting him to get a sack or not, why the feck should anyone come back to you in 2 years time, why 2, is that minimum amount of time that has to pass, before we can judge a manager?

Most of things when it comes to Manchster United corp. is reflection of the fan base. The way how they see transfers, whole, manager needs time, needs his players, needs 2 years plus and 400mil. to replace shit/deadwood, what a utter nonsense.

One thing is for sure, if/when new manager comes, he will get his song next day even he did feck all to earn it, will be told thats supporting, guess feck setting high standards.
 
Ouch, that post-match interview. I feel sorry for him, truly. A task well above his abilities, and imagine what he must feel right now.
 
You want Ole out so badly you're just clutching at straws with these suggestions.

Is Hassenhuttl going to ever finish ahead of Man City (with Pep or whoever), Klopp's Liverpool or Tuchel's Chelsea?

No he isn't.

If they can get Zidane, even though he doesn't appear to be chomping at the bit, then that's our best bet.

Then get him. I'm all for it.
 
Having to watch Liverpool as bf supports them, Michael Owen is on at half time. They're discussing Ole.

I've just agreed with every word he said, also Sol Campbell.
 
Zidane is an old school style manager who leaves training ground stuff to the coaches, i feel we need a proper head coach this time.
 
Just like when Jose left. You remember how good things looked back then?
How did it last in the long run? You know the answer. Absolute shit.
I was questioning the decision right after Ed made him the permanent manager (and got shat on for it). It was trigger happy. Such form was never going to be sustainable, players were punching above their weight, we also got lucky on several goals. My argument was that we could have given Ole more time to see how he handles the bad games when they came. We didn't, right after becoming the permanent manager the loses started to come, Solskjaertabelen started to look worse. And the argument from people at the time was that Ole didn't trust the players that's why he didn't use subs but it's the opposite - good managers that want to win will try things out. Should we appoint a care taker manager, we should never use a small sample size as a baseline ever again.

So the problem is not about how long did the run last but how did we handle it. If we actually let Ole to finish the season before considering giving the permanent contract, he would have looked much less desirable, people wouldn't be wearing rose tinted goggles all the time and we could have gone for a more competent manager. Which, again, whoever the new manager might be we need to assess properly before giving out stupid long contracts like Santa on Xmas. Give them 1-2 years contract and if the performances & results are not good enough, get rid, find a new one. At this point it's hard to create a long term plan revolving around only one manager. It's not the 90's anymore.
 
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I mean what do we lose if we give it to Carrick now? It can't get any lower than this anyway
 
Zidane is an old school style manager who leaves training ground stuff to the coaches, i feel we need a proper head coach this time.

Zidane is actually involved in training, this idea that he leaves the training ground stuff to the coaches is completely false. What is true is that like Klopp he isn't the one leading the training sessions, it's Bettoni's role, at Liverpool it's Pep Lijnders role.
 
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