Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%

  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%
  • Total voters
    3,423
  • Poll closed .
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LVG said he wouldn’t blame Woodward if he sacked him during our poor run in December 2015.

Yet Ole “expects to be in charge” against Watford. What has he done to earn that self confidence, when CL winning Louis Van Gaal didn’t have it?
 
Meet an "easy" opposition -> Lads, go out and behave like a wounded animal !

Meet a "difficult" opposition -> Lads, we need an extra man or body at the back. Stay compact and show more hunger and desire !
 
yipthatman said:
Ole is not actually that bad if you look at stats. He has just reached his level and it isn't where we want to be. He absolutely has to go but lets not make out he was totally rubbish. He has done some things right and his win rate isn't actually too bad. I think he will end up managing in the Championship without all the 'worldie' egos. That's probably his level. The longer this drags on now the more painful it is to watch. I don't respect the fact that he hasn't walked. Shouldn't need to be sacked.
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Stats and win rate are there. But the question is, what was his real contribution in those wins? How many games we won because of his tactical brilliance? Actually, is there any? It was all pure luck and individual brilliance from our world class players. Tactically, he proved to be nothing.
 
ooeat0meoo said:
This is pure ignorance

There are players like Cavani that will age out and make room for the younger talent. Sancho will get time on the pitch. Plus Pogba is almost certain to go to Paris or one of the big La Liga clubs this coming Summer. I wish we could ban the windup con artists. @Raoul
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I wouldn't say it is a wind up.

Cavani didn't start against City, neither did Sancho. The formation we have played the last few games is 5 at the back which does not allot space for Sancho.

Granted, Ole may change formation again against the "lesser" teams. But the point is still valid. He doesn't know what he is doing.
 
2 man midfield said:
LVG said he wouldn’t blame Woodward if he sacked him during our poor run in December 2015.

Yet Ole “expects to be in charge” against Watford. What has he done to earn that self confidence, when CL winning Louis Van Gaal didn’t have it?
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Ole is an entitled person with no self-awareness.
 
sullydnl said:
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FFS, go and get a green light from a Ten Hag, a Potter, a Rodgers etc. and then move heaven and earth to strike a deal with their current club. We have no problem spunking a king’s ransom on squad players but won’t consider a fraction of that to sign a contracted manager?

Stone-age thinking.
 
No viable replacement in short term is bullshit. It’s like we’re deluding ourselves we have anything to replace. Literally anyone who has managed in the last five years would be more qualified

Draw fecking lots. Ernie, meenie, miney, mo…

Take your pick


Replacing someone woefully unqualified isn’t a daunting task
 
sullydnl said:
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seems pretty obvious considering after the Pool loss they were sending out briefings like headless chickens. They have literally thrown all their eggs in the Ole basket based off the Spurs result.

It seems more and more likely that Spurs v MUFC really was the race for Conte and our club were so happy that the win gave them cover to not get Conte.
 
Long term managers do not equal success just as short term managers do not equal success.

Success is equal to good managers and a good manager will bring success also in a short period of time.
 
If the overall view is that there is no appropriate replacement right now then how about the club enforce he brings in a new assistant until the end of the season? Carrick McKenna etc are running out of contract any way so let them go and bring in a quality number 2 till the end of the season to mix things up?
 
The ironic thing is that Solskjaer himself highlighted the benefits that can come from replacing a manager with an interim appointment, even one who isn't actually all that good a manager.
 
PoTMS said:
The thing is he was without a club. For a very long time. Ole should've been sacked a long time ago, a time where Poch was a free agent. If they were such a big fan, why didn't they hire him then when it was already clear to some of us Ole wasn't up to it. I'm not Pochettino's biggest fan but he is several levels above Ole as a coach.
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Think you’ve answered your own question. It wasn’t clear to them. This board can’t be relied upon to come to the right conclusion. They may have kept Van Gaal had Mourinho not jumped up, slapped them in the face and said “hire me!”.

Prior to the start of this season, the direction of travel under Ole was positive enough (league position, squad building etc) that the club didn’t feel compelled to make a change. Presumably.
 


I an done with this club. Aware we need a change but no one with the balls to make the call. Bunch of cowards!



And why the feck would this be an issue? I'll tell you why, it would be an issue for people who run like a business, not a football club
 
Offer Ten Hag £10m and pay Conte the same for the number of the guy who did his hair transplant
 
This club is rancid and rotten to the core.

Ole keeping his job is not fecking acceptable.

All because he is a legend? Piss off.

By that reasoning Rooney should be our next manager.

Also Ole not resigning while knowing he is dragging the club down is ruining his legacy. He isn't qualified and should step aside.
 
MO_Football92 said:
I am not saying Ole should be United manager; far from it. But apart from Bayern and possibly PSG in modern times, when have a club ever consistently won the big trophies without a long term manager?
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Let's see, how about Real Madrid, Barcelona, Chelsea, basically the most successful clubs in the CL this millenium.
 
The biggest ABUs couldn’t have written this script of incompetence and neglect in their wildest dreams.

I lost interest after half an hour yesterday. I’m not watching any more of it. There’s no fun in watching a talented group of footballers scared to go on a football pitch with no instructions handed to them other than to try to keep the score down.
 
::sonny:: said:
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Hardly shocking. They put all their eggs in the ole basket after he beat the mighty Tottenham away and now they’re going to back him. Crazy how this season started so promising only to fall away so soon.

They’re probably shit scared to sack him and not have any options
 
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Surely that was what giving him the 3 games was for, to buy themselves a bit of time to get their shit together and actually find a replacement? But no it seems they’ve instead done absolutely feck all and genuinely thought he could’ve turned it around so didn’t bother their arse with a ‘plan B’.
 
WPMUFC said:
seems pretty obvious considering after the Pool loss they were sending out briefings like headless chickens. They have literally thrown all their eggs in the Ole basket based off the Spurs result.

It seems more and more likely that Spurs v MUFC really was the race for Conte and our club were so happy that the win gave them cover to not get Conte.
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Honestly this would not surprise me at all.
 
MO_Football92 said:
I am not saying Ole should be United manager; far from it. But apart from Bayern and possibly PSG in modern times, when have a club ever consistently won the big trophies without a long term manager?
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You can’t plan to hire a “long- term” manager. You hire the best available manager and then, if he succeeds,, you hope he stays for a while like Pep at City or Klopp at Liverpool. At some point, though, most likely he’ll leave for a fresh challenge as he will always have offers if he has a track record of success. If he doesn’t work out, you try again. Then you repeat the process. United, with Moyes and now Ole, seem to confuse cause and effect in their pursuit of another Ferguson, and have wasted hundreds of millions in the process.
 
laughtersassassin said:
This club is rancid and rotten to the core.

Ole keeping his job is not fecking acceptable.

All because he is a legend? Piss off.

By that reasoning Rooney should be our next manager.

Also Ole not resigning while bowing he is dragging the club down is ruining his legacy. He isn't qualified and should step aside.
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Exactly. Steve Bruce and Bryan Robson are far bigger club legends but would anyone want to see any of them in charge?

The sad thing is they’d probably do a better job.
 
Hisha said:
Stats and win rate are there. But the question is, what was his real contribution in those wins? How many games we won because of his tactical brilliance? Actually, is there any? It was all pure luck and individual brilliance from our world class players. Tactically, he proved to be nothing.
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That's not quite true is it. He bought the players, he picked the team. Look don't get me wrong, I am annoyed every time I see him smiling and want him gone pronto but lets not rewrite history. He has done OK. Not good and not great. Time to go.
 
Compton22 said:


I an done with this club. Aware we need a change but no one with the balls to make the call. Bunch of cowards!



And why the feck would this be an issue? I'll tell you why, it would be an issue for people who run like a business, not a football club
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Aye god forbid we bring an actual football man in at board level. This club is fecked.
 
Will be sickening when we beat Watford knowing that keeps him in the job for even longer and to our detriment.
 
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