No I dont care if we fire him tbh.
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No I dont care if we fire him tbh.
Probably. Plus there's maybe a handful of posters that probably think he's safe so they're going to back him again in the hope they can say 'told you so'.
He really has to show that he's willing to use the squad properly. If he starts Bailey in the derby (and preferably Donny and Sancho too), and if we win, I'm probably going to be prepared to give him a little more time.
But the performances are still awful and I'm beyond even hoping he can show signs of learning and improving. Almost.
But the performances are still awful and I'm beyond even hoping he can show signs of learning and improving. Almost.
Bailly might start by default due to injuries. How he could get any praise for starting Bailly would be beyond me, because he's ignored him for ages, then overlooked him in favour of 2 unfit CBs. Plus the chances of VDB and Sancho starting that game are beyond zero.
But fair enough if that's your line of thinking. I just don't see how any of that would change anything after he's failed to do any of that for over a year already.
I think you and I both know the answer to this.
No way he will take a change, it will be the same team that played last weekend Vs Spurs.
When you need a team to look better in terms of passing and movement, there is no two better players in the club than Donny and Sancho. Instead he prefers Rashford who is apart from the goals has been really poor.
I cannot see us improving under Ole, he is just there for the sake of it now, no one believes we will do anything this season.
We should be competing with City, Chelsea, and Liverpool with the squad we have, end of. Coming second or third is acceptable so long as it’s close. They’re good sides, it happens. It’s not like the old days of us having one team to compete with. But we need to be close. And we need to be playing structured attacking football.
Something that we’re not doing now. It’s not as simple as another person failing if we only come 2nd or third and that means we were wrong to blame Ole. We are winging it with Ole plain and simple. And we shouldn’t be winging it. That’s why Ole needs to go.
I think we can win Saturday, if we do we will be 100% competing with city so far this season.
My prediction of 1 win, 1 tie and then 1 loss is so far coming true. I also predicted Ole getting the hook after the City loss and during the intl break. Caretaker until the summer. We're in a battle for top 4 now.
Because Ole is an absolute bluffer. He definitely knows how it should look on the pitch but he has no idea how to actually make it happen. He's learned bits and pieces off Fergie and then trots them out. But his actions speak far louder than his words. And his actions are catastrophic right now. We are going backwards.
Watch us shit house a win versus City and then it might even get into the 70's!
Not sure Pep is built like that tbh. They just lost their last game and he keeps losing to Ole. There is no way they won't want to destroy us this time around.
That's what the funny part is. I don't get why people are so fickle and weakminded about Ole. The result of not having any tactics/style of play/relying on brilliance is that the results and performances are completely inconsistent. That's the biggest issue with ole. He'll go 3 weeks winning every game because the players turn up and go in and out of form. Then he'll go 4 weeks without a result. He should have been fired years ago because of this but fans are so blind to the issue.
They see him lose 5 games on the trot and it's literally as bad as it can get, but he gets 2 wins next and people just suddenly think he's turning it around.
No, the same thing is going to happen. Sure we may beat City but I have no doubt that in a month or two we'll go through the same shit form we're in now and crash out of the FA Cup/Champion's League/Europa.
Like everyone has seen this happen 4(?) times at least since he was manager and they STILL fall for it. I don't understand.
Yeah, so far being the operative words.City are capable of then going on a 15 winning streak. Are we? If we carry on with him there's no way we will finish anywhere near City, Liverpool or Chelsea. We'll be in a battle for 4th. And the only reason we'll be in that battle is because we have some brilliant players that can bail him out as they have been doing. We've had him 3 years now and in that time he's been bailed out by Bruno and now ROnaldo. Without those, he'd have lost his job. So how anyone can still have faith in him is just a joke. It's just blind faith, can't be anything more because he's shown us nothing. We're going backwards now and the only thing he has is luck, a whole bloody heap of it. But eventually luck runs out. And he can't keep playing and relying on Ronaldo because eventually he, like players in the past will be worn out. I just can't see how anyone can still have faith in Ole, unless it's down to either liking to go against the masses, liking the idea of being a top red or simply wanting with all your heart for a Utd legend to carry us to glory. He is a legend and it's a romantic though that I also dreamed of, but the dream is dead. People need to accept it. Ole was a great player but he is a terrible manager.
Just look at the actual number of votes which which is more telling. There are nearly 2,500 more outs than ins and it's still rising since last night. That's a big difference. Last time it was very very close.
Surely you're having a joke here.
He scored a legendary goal and that’s it, not a United legend in my eyes
It's just so utterly stupid to have a manager like this. Look at any of the other top teams and when a star player is out they continue to play the same because they have a structure and way of playing. We do not. So if a brilliant player suffers a slip in form, our form goes off a cliff. What if Ronaldo gets injured? I know he doesn't normally but this is United, where the previously invincible get struck down. If that happens, we're finished. Because he's so reliant on individual players. It's just an absolute joke that this is seen as acceptable at this level.
Give over. If one of City, Chelsea or Liverpool also has a shite season, we get no brownie points for staying in touch. Our target is the top of the table, not staying in touch with the also-rans.
It's hilarious. Their managers have won the biggest of trophies and oles backers think that finishing near them in the table when they or us don't win it is an accomplishment. They have no desire to win anything
Some people are treating this season like Ole's farewell tour. Jeez
This is how I see it going too. Although I had us for 1 win, 2 defeats. I still think that if we lose to City he's gone
At least we're keeping everyone entertained.
I do like the title of the article perfectly sums us up.
Out of interest would you appoint any of our other legends after Ole?
I can understand those who perhaps don't want to give up on a united man managing us but i reckon none would appoint Rooney, Giggs, Neville next just because they’re former players.
I said at the time it was a mistake because the emotional connection is a damaging thing as much as its a great thing. I'd like us to have a united legend as assistant manager but even then it's probably not that beneficial.
I froze Ole's tears and made a dagger,
and stabbed it in my cock forever.
It stays there like Excalibur,
Are you my Conte?
Say you are.
and stabbed it in my cock forever.
It stays there like Excalibur,
Are you my Conte?
Say you are.
looks like Scholes had enough.
Sad thing is he doesn’t have to do a lot to save his job, win against Spurs and draw last night gets him through international break. In context of Ole keeping his job the City result is meaningless.
Essentially all he has to do is not drop too far off fourth which isn’t difficult, can drop a lot points and still not be far off. Even ending up in Europa won’t make blind bit of difference. It’s actually beneficial for Ole as gives him another route to qualify for Champions League.
I just don’t see point now, any interim or caretaker won’t do worse and at least gives time to work out what to do next.
Essentially all he has to do is not drop too far off fourth which isn’t difficult, can drop a lot points and still not be far off. Even ending up in Europa won’t make blind bit of difference. It’s actually beneficial for Ole as gives him another route to qualify for Champions League.
I just don’t see point now, any interim or caretaker won’t do worse and at least gives time to work out what to do next.
Yes. Am sure UEFA will give him a trophy for this.
Many rival fans vote here too.
The only viable option to replace him mid-season is gone. Regardless of what happens on the pitch, he's here until the summer. It will be Poch or Ole from then on.
He's as stubborn as it gets. Even if he starts the likes of Donny now in a new formation -- at what cost? He always does this. Waits till shit hits the fan to make changes to the starting eleven.
His reaction is the reality
We were more effective under Solskjaer in 18/19 than we are now. Look at these stats; it is actually ridiculous how similar they are.
And some of them are deteriorating despite us spending massive amounts of money. We create fewer chances than ever; we concede more chances; we concede more goals; we get fewer clean sheets; we have slightly less possession; our shots on target have slightly reduced.
And this is happening even though we have spent £350m on defence and attack.
| 19/20 | 20/21 | 21/22 | |
| Possession per game | 56.00% | 55.80% | 55.30% |
| Scored per game | 1.7 | 1.9 | 1.9 |
| Conceded per game | 0.9 | 1.2 | 1.5 |
| Clean sheets (% of games) | 34.20% | 34.20% | 20% |
| xG per game | 1.742 | 1.662 | 1.626 |
| xGA per game | 1.002 | 1.103 | 1.631 |
| xPTS per game | 1.87 | 1.73 | 1.442 |
| Shots on Target per game | 5.9 | 5.7 | 5.6 |
And some of them are deteriorating despite us spending massive amounts of money. We create fewer chances than ever; we concede more chances; we concede more goals; we get fewer clean sheets; we have slightly less possession; our shots on target have slightly reduced.
And this is happening even though we have spent £350m on defence and attack.
That was my reaction. I find it so hard to be excited when we are going nowhere under Ole.
I'm just praying the club have a plan for the international break.
Reducing the epitome of joie de vivre that is Paul Scholes to this state should be a sackable offence.
This is a Jose timing I think he.was sacked after the 1st leg of the CL against PSG, in December. Now I don't think it will last that long for Ole, I hope the board has behind the scenes been looking for next manager. I'm imo going for the International break to see what happens if he's still in a job after that he's not going this season and the push will be for top 4. I'm hoping then there waiting for Luis Enrique, after the world Cup.
I know that seems a long way off but is he worth the wait. ?
I know that seems a long way off but is he worth the wait. ?
I'd take Ole for the rest of the season if it means getting Enrique. Unfortunately, I think that's highly unlikely. I'd take Enrique over every manager that's been linked with us but I can't see our board even considering him. Nevermind what he's done with Barca, but that Spain team play some brilliant football with probably their worst team in the past 20 years.
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