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No - just had a run in with one and he was the most incompetent manager I've ever experienced.Do you work in a minor logistics company in Staffordshire?
No - just had a run in with one and he was the most incompetent manager I've ever experienced.Do you work in a minor logistics company in Staffordshire?
If we lose our next 2 Premierleague games than Ole will be sacked.I think the owners will wait until the international break before they make a change…Personally I feel it would be better if Ole can remain in charge until the end of the season,secure a top 4 finish and then leave.We will have greater options to chose from next summer,so making a change in the summer would be ideal.
But if we keep losing games,then we would obviously have to immediately make a change to stop the rot.The next 3 games will be huge for Ole…
Tbf I'm sure the reserve coach is a nice bloke but he's not very good at setting up a defence so he can keep well away thanks. Phelan would be the obvious stand in. Or, and I mean this with a straight face I assure you, Steve Bruce purely as interim.
This is even worse because Conte might take over if we ask him now (he doesn't like taking over once into a season). If we lose 3 more games he might just decline as we might be too far behind the crowd.This no-mans-land where they say "we'll look at sacking him in 2 weeks if we have another bad result" is just ridiculous logic because the options on the market will be the exact same as they are now.
Mourinho says hi if you think we can't sack a manager mid season. Mind you the dressing room is split just like it was thenThe problem with our club is this will never happen. If Ole gets a top 4 finish by hook or crook, which should be a standard task given our squad, he will continue. No way he is fired after that.
Exactly.Aye their levels of incompetence are staggering. They should’ve been putting the feelers out after that Europa final loss and the writing should’ve 100% been on the wall after the Young Boys defeat.
For some reason it lets you vote yes and no.How come the sum of both percentages in the poll is 101.1%?
Because Ole is giving 110% in the job.How come the sum of both percentages in the poll is 101.1%?
Liverpool fans have hacked the "give him more time" %How come the sum of both percentages in the poll is 101.1%?
Ole was from the "upper 1%" of candidates for the job.How come the sum of both percentages in the poll is 101.1%?
Wondered what prompted that. I'm in the logistics industry, hit me up with any transport requirements. There's some Woodward level cowboys out there!No - just had a run in with one and he was the most incompetent manager I've ever experienced.
Liverpool fans have hacked the "give him more time" %
It's the United DNA*How come the sum of both percentages in the poll is 101.1%?
Having Phelan or Bruce in the dugout would make the club an even bigger laughing stock, and I say this as someone who has been Ole out for a while.
You don't think Conte would get us better results instantly this season, next season, and the season after? Because there is no point in thinking/prioritizing further than 2-3 years in the future and it's a recipe for continuous failure.Feel free to tear me a new one for this post, but I just wanted to state that I am one of those who have voted to still give him time. So it's not "just oppo fans".
Sunday was a horrible day. Something has got to give, and the players need to take a fair bit of responsibility as well.
But there's nobody available right now that I personally think could do a better job in the long term, so I see no reason to change the manager just for change's sake.
Feel free to tear me a new one for this post, but I just wanted to state that I am one of those who have voted to still give him time. So it's not "just oppo fans".
Sunday was a horrible day. Something has got to give, and the players need to take a fair bit of responsibility as well.
But there's nobody available right now that I personally think could do a better job in the long term, so I see no reason to change the manager just for change's sake.
Feel free to tear me a new one for this post, but I just wanted to state that I am one of those who have voted to still give him time. So it's not "just oppo fans".
Sunday was a horrible day. Something has got to give, and the players need to take a fair bit of responsibility as well.
But there's nobody available right now that I personally think could do a better job in the long term, so I see no reason to change the manager just for change's sake.
Feel free to tear me a new one for this post, but I just wanted to state that I am one of those who have voted to still give him time. So it's not "just oppo fans".
Sunday was a horrible day. Something has got to give, and the players need to take a fair bit of responsibility as well.
But there's nobody available right now that I personally think could do a better job in the long term, so I see no reason to change the manager just for change's sake.
Not sure I agree with the bolded really. He's not on Jose's level in terms of being a Cnut obviously, but he does treat some players oddly.There are countless managers who are better than Solskjaer he's not adequate enough tactically. Man management wise he probably can be considered elite, his personality helps this. If you consider the team's current form and performance levels the long term effect of keeping Ole in charge could see the team outside the top 10.
Reading the leaks in last couple days I highly doubt this.There are countless managers who are better than Solskjaer he's not adequate enough tactically. Man management wise he probably can be considered elite, his personality helps this. If you consider the team's current form and performance levels the long term effect of keeping Ole in charge could see the team outside the top 10.
There are countless managers who are better than Solskjaer he's not adequate enough tactically. Man management wise he probably can be considered elite, his personality helps this. If you consider the team's current form and performance levels the long term effect of keeping Ole in charge could see the team outside the top 10.
All the old buddies are out and about trying to defend OGS like he’s some little kid
If that ‘no succession plan’ thing is true then that’s fecking astounding. You’re in a fairly volatile sector of work where stability is a rare commodity and you don’t have a succession plan?
Morons running the club. OGS’ mateys riding to his rescue to stop the big bad fan base from bullying him, as he is comprehensively beaten at home by the biggest rivals who never looked phased by us.
What the feck happens in the boardroom and at training? All of it seems very badly run. It’s a bunch of money man and old Utd boys backslapping each other, as the fans and players look on in bemusement.
This isn't a turning point for Ole. It's a time to thank him for his work, treat him like a human being and tell him we are planning to get in a new manager. Give him the option to stay in post until that is sorted if he wants, or to have the option to leave if he doesn't want to do that and appoint a caretaker.
Briefing half a story to the press, whilst also actively sounding out replacements, to try and save face is just the usual sort of claptrap we have seen from Woodward time and again. Be professional, be respectful of a valued member of the club and speak publicly, on the record. This should all have been agreed and implemented on Monday.
Woodward's management style would get him sacked from a minor logistics company in staffordshire. He's never been upto the job.
this is embarrassing from so many angles. We are the laughing stock and it's hard to argue against being that. A board that hasn't a clue, a manager out of his depth being bigged up by his old buddies , and a squad that look that they just don't believe anymore. Add to that players we signed to make the difference who sit on the bench because we don't know where to play them or get the best out of them because at the end of the day our coaches just aren't that good. It makes me sad to watch this circus to be honest.
Yeah, he should have got the sack after the Liverpool game. That he's still in charge some three days later is outrageous. It wouldn't happen at any remotely well-run football club, let alone a club of United's size and stature.
Ole being in charge for the Spurs game is a disaster waiting to happen. It puts the players in an awful position. They all know deep down, just like the fans, pundits and media outlets, that Ole's time as manager is up. Yet, the board still expect the players to go out there and put in their absolute best performance anyway. How do you put your heart and soul into something when you know it's all going to be in vain? It's not possible.
It's equally shite for the fans too. We all know Ole's time is up, but we're still expected to cheer the team on despite knowing that a victory only delays the inevitable. I've never actively refused to support the side before, but I won't cheer United on Saturday because I'd be a hypocrite of the highest order if I did, false support in every sense of the word. I bet my ass hair I won't be alone there either. Feck the board for putting us in that position.
Ole should not, under any circumstances, be in charge for the Spurs game. If he is, it's a dereliction of duty on behalf of the board, or better yet, Joel Glazer, as the buck stops with him.
If the club thinks there is a lack of viable alternatives right now so they can't sack him - what do they think is going to change in the next 2 weeks?
The options we have right now are the exact same ones we're going to have in November or December when we sack him. So whoever you're going to give the job to in 2 weeks time when City batter us, just give it him now. Otherwise you're conceding that Ole will stay till the summer no matter what which is ridiculous.
If there is a slight delay getting contract sorted for new permanent manager etc. we're better off giving it to someone random for a couple of games like the reserve coach just to relieve the toxic atmosphere in the dressing room. The current circumstances are terrible to try get results under Ole as there's too much unrest.
It's frankly unprofessional for us to not have a succession plan given performances this season. Ole being out his depth hasn't come out the blue, most sane people could see this disaster coming before he even got the job 3 years ago.
There are countless managers who are better than Solskjaer he's not adequate enough tactically. Man management wise he probably can be considered elite, his personality helps this. If you consider the team's current form and performance levels the long term effect of keeping Ole in charge could see the team outside the top 10.
So here's probably where my opinions disconnect with many others in the fanbase. I don't want Conte anywhere near the club, similar to how I never wanted Mou to come here. (But if Conte is appointed I will back the manager.)You don't think Conte would get us better results instantly this season, next season, and the season after? Because there is no point in thinking/prioritizing further than 2-3 years in the future and it's a recipe for continuous failure.
For me the results and squad developments over the last years are enough to warrant Djemba-Djemba to stay in the manager seat for the season if it was him. (Or pick any no-name person that wasn't a player here before. Though they would be unlikely to be given the chance like Ole was.)
Compared to where we have been post Fergie I have the most positive outlook on the future with this squad and setup. For me that means Ole deserves the season to deliver a title challenge or CL run. If we fail completely then it's time to approach a different manager in the summer. But there's nobody available right now that I think would do a better job.
I don't want Conte here, similar to how I never wanted Mou. I don't think Zidane would be able to turn things around here either, he seems a better fit for Spain/Italy/France.
If it was up to me I probably would have given Moyes another season, but he made a lot of wrong choices, starting with removing most of Fergie's remaining backroom staff. Add on to the nosedive in the league I understand why the club chose to be ruthless.
I would have supported LVG for another season, even though I found the football excruciatingly boring. I just thought that would have been better than Mourinho.
It’s baffling he gets so much credit for man management, maybe it’s what he’s best at but he is in no way elite. He seems to be more liked than respected and judging by all the leaks his man management doesn’t seem anything to be impressed by.
Morale among the players is as low as ever right now, don't think that a new manager and fresh approach might get them going again? Even an interim would give the players a boost for the upcoming games.
What is there to gain from keeping a manager that a number of players and members of the coaching staff have lost faith in?
So you actually think this is the best we can do with the options available?Feel free to tear me a new one for this post, but I just wanted to state that I am one of those who have voted to still give him time. So it's not "just oppo fans".
Sunday was a horrible day. Something has got to give, and the players need to take a fair bit of responsibility as well.
But there's nobody available right now that I personally think could do a better job in the long term, so I see no reason to change the manager just for change's sake.
That’s what I think is going on, just buying some timeIf its true they're working on a new manager and 3 games is just to give them time its possible they'll find someone before those 3 games are player, or even 2. Although it might happen we'll see another disaster on Saturday so it will fasten their decision anyway.
yeah. That song is probably gonna be sung at every ground in the country this weekend not just Spurs
No, something has clearly gone wrong. The club needs to figure out where and fix it. But I don't believe that changing the manager is the only solution, not when I don't think any of the available options mid-season are any better. I believe Ole has it in him to make the necessary changes and turn this around. He is on borrowed time, and if other options were available right now the club would probably make a change. But as it stands I don't think they will (or should) unless we continue on a downward trend.So you actually think this is the best we can do with the options available?
There are countless managers who are better than Solskjaer he's not adequate enough tactically. Man management wise he probably can be considered elite, his personality helps this.