Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%

  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%
  • Total voters
    3,423
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Real Name said:
Who should be a caretaker for 3 games other then Phelan and Phelan shoudnt be imo.
And who's to say they wont hire that caretaker for a season then.
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Who? Anybody. Literally anybody. With Ole in charge, I can't see any performances and the disillusioned players will down tools. Fletcher, McKenna, Carrick. Whoever.

Regarding the bold part, because they should not be so reactive for a change and learn from their mistakes. They are in control of the situation, just don't do it.
 
Volumiza said:
Yes, results have been shocking, he has to go now. But what's to be gained leaving us with no one in charge at all?
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If he stays in charge until the Int break that's 3 more dismal performances guaranteed with the same starting XI.
Someone like Fletcher or even Neil Ryan to take charge of those 3 games could feshen things up.....maybe.
 
pocco said:
Who? Anybody. Literally anybody. With Ole in charge, I can't see any performances and the disillusioned players will down tools. Fletcher, McKenna, Carrick. Whoever.

Regarding the bold part, because they should not be so reactive for a change and learn from their mistakes. They are in control of the situation, just don't do it.
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You know our board. They'll hire Bruce as a caretaker then give him a contract.
 
As much as I'm more Ole Out than Ole In now after that disastrous result against Liverpool and the scrappy win against Atalanta, (though I do admit the 2nd half football was much better, why can't we play like that for the full 90mins?!) if they are not looking for a replacement right now, or looking to sack him.

I pray to the gods that they are guaranteeing to get in a DM in January, just pay the god damn money at this point and get Rice or Ndidi, it's got to a point where I don't care if we're getting fleeced we need the player to help fix our midfield.

Not only that, look at hiring some COACHES! If they aren't going to get a new manager in and all Ole wants to do is manage the players, at least shake up the coaching staff and get some more experienced elite coaches in.

Think most of us would be happy with Ole as the manager if the football was better. So, get some elite coaches in!
 
Santos J said:
Mourinho was sacked after Liverpool
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After 6 months of shit results and attacking everyone at the club. The Liverpool game was the final straw for him.

Just because someone was sacked previously after one game, doesn't mean it will happen again after said game.

Moyes was sacked after Everton, Solskajer wasn't
 
Not sure how he survives the next few games. Tottenham, City, away to Arsenal is always a potential disaster, then Chelsea.

I don't see any hope for him.

Unless the board are prepared to let it go much worse before it can get better.
 
Only Skysports is reporting this so I"m guessing it's not a briefing. I'll wait till Ducker, Ogden, Orny, Simon and Luckhurst release the same info unilaterally.
 
crossy1686 said:
After 6 months of shit results and attacking everyone at the club. The Liverpool game was the final straw for him.

Just because someone was sacked previously after one game, doesn't mean it will happen again after said game.

Moyes was sacked after Everton, Solskajer wasn't
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What are talking about. Stop backing this football structure. This is not a Ole thing.
 
OneUnited24 said:
Longer you leave it the longer the rot sets in. I honestly can’t see us winning the next three games with him
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So why not let Solskjaer lose them and then bring in a manager when we have some very winnable games? What's the point in throwing a new manager in when we're got potential batterings coming?
 
crossy1686 said:
After 6 months of shit results and attacking everyone at the club. The Liverpool game was the final straw for him.

Just because someone was sacked previously after one game, doesn't mean it will happen again after said game.

Moyes was sacked after Everton, Solskajer wasn't
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Well yeah, but your point was we woudln't sack a manager after losing to Liverpool when we sacked our last manager after losing to Liverpool..
 
Volumiza said:
Yes, results have been shocking, he has to go now. But what's to be gained leaving us with no one in charge at all?
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Given the state of the dressing room right now, wouldn't an interim be more likely to get a tune from these players than Ole? Give it to Roy Keane for a few games while a permanent replacement gets sorted.

There is no benefit to keeping Ole on at this point. The players know he's done for, as do the coaching staff, they won't perform to their best ability while he remains.
 
No chance in hell we'll win at Spurs even. So he'll probably get the sack over the weekend if it isnt happening now. More than enough time to sound the candidates.. If they plan to do it that is....
 
UnitedSofa said:
As much as I'm more Ole Out than Ole In now after that disastrous result against Liverpool and the scrappy win against Atalanta, (though I do admit the 2nd half football was much better, why can't we play like that for the full 90mins?!) if they are not looking for a replacement right now, or looking to sack him.

I pray to the gods that they are guaranteeing to get in a DM in January, just pay the god damn money at this point and get Rice or Ndidi, it's got to a point where I don't care if we're getting fleeced we need the player to help fix our midfield.

Not only that, look at hiring some COACHES! If they aren't going to get a new manager in and all Ole wants to do is manage the players, at least shake up the coaching staff and get some more experienced elite coaches in.

Think most of us would be happy with Ole as the manager if the football was better. So, get some elite coaches in!
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Ole doesn't know any coaches. Managers bring in guys they have connections to or hire promising young managers who want to train under the best. Ole isn't any of those. He has no pedigree whatsoever so no one will want to learn under him.

Also you aren't ole out, your whole posts reeks of you wanting anything to change your mind of keeping him as manager. If you were realistic you'd see his situation as untenable. The players don't want him here anymore, he should be gone yesterday.

Your wishy-washiness has me thinking you're actually part of our board
 
Joseunited said:
If he stays in charge until the Int break that's 3 more dismal performances guaranteed with the same starting XI.
Someone like Fletcher or even Neil Ryan to take charge of those 3 games could feshen things up.....maybe.
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3 more dismal performance maybe, probably but football is a funny game, we could still get some results. Like you said ... maybe. Throwing Fletcher in charge at this point would achieve little, except maybe put unnecessary pressure on Fletcher himself.

Personally I think we'll beat Spurs and draw against Atalanta. City will be a whole different kettle of fish though, they (Pep especially0 will want to put us to the sword. Either way, I'm certain Ole will be gone in a couple of weeks, if not sooner.
 
pocco said:
You heard something or based on reports?
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Sky Sports News are saying they expect Ole to remain in charge.

If true, it is more proof of the lack of leadership at the club. This form and these problems wouldn't be tolerated at City, Liverpool, Chelsea etc, but we accept it and plod along without a plan. The whole structure is putrid, aimless and uninterested. When you have owners who don't care, the malaise spreads through the club. He will be replaced when it's already too late, making his successor's job all the harder. It's a shit show.
 
Legend16 said:
United 1 - 6 City

remember this?

Fergie survived it.

context is everything
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Sir Alex had won multiple trophies for us, big important trophies at that hence why that was excused, same with Klopp and the 7-2 Villa game.

Had this happened with Ole and we had the shocking squad we used to, maybe, just maybe, it could have been excused, same as if he'd won us trophies. However he's showing no signs of progress, if anything we are going backwards despite having a squad that should challenge for trophies. Dont forget he also threw away a cup we should be aiming to win to get the no trophy monkey off his back....

Tottenham are equally awful so I can see us managing a draw or win, leaving him safe again. It's vital we get out the CL group, a group I said at the time it was drawn should be a sackable offence to not get out of....

Surely it would have been kinder to sack him especially with all these leaks. I don't want the likes of Carrick etc as caretaker, but give them the job just for Tottenham, while we work on securing someone either permanent or a caretaker for this season, with someone set to join at the end of the season. If we go down the caretaker route, we MUST have the permanent manager signed up, or we know exactly what will happen (same as the last "caretaker" manager)

If only they hadn't renewed his contract, despite signs being there he wasn't suitable. I said at the time I'd have given him until Christmas, no one was going to poach him and he wouldn't leave us for someone's else. If we were in a strong position by then, by all means give him the new contract. They've put themselves in this mess

They could even give him a lower position if they want to make it a bit kinder, based on Ronaldo's comments about the youth players of today being much less committed, I wouldn't have a problem with him being given some sort of non management role/ part time role with the youth teams and academy in working with the young players and their mentality/ keeping their heads in the right place/ showing what they need to succeed as a footballer, as I do agree he had improved the culture here. Although of course we are now at great risk of destroying that work by not doing what needs to be done.
 
Random Task said:
Given the state of the dressing room right now, wouldn't an interim be more likely to get a tune from these players than Ole? Give it to Roy Keane for a few games while a permanent replacement gets sorted.

There is no benefit to keeping Ole on at this point. The players know he's done for, as do the coaching staff, they won't perform to their best ability while he remains.
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We don't actually know the true state of the dressing room though do we? And look, I want Ole gone too but there just seems little sense to jettison him this week when we have 3 important games coming up without a good option to replace him.
 
crossy1686 said:
So why not let Solskjaer lose them and then bring in a manager when we have some very winnable games? What's the point in throwing a new manager in when we're got potential batterings coming?
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Because there’s a chance to start working towards recovery now and not when we’ve let a big lead open up with our rivals… West Ham, Leicester, Everton and … sigh… Arsenal
 
He'll be gone today tbh, can't see anything different, the more I think about it the more I realise that after all the reports yesterday he can't continue. Would be gross incompetence from our board.
 
People saying the club are embarrassing for not sacking him but I think it's more to do with them having no direct alternative as they rightfully have doubts about Conte's style and more importantly for them his abrasive personality when he doesn't get what he wants, and Zidane apparently isn't interested.
 
Flytan said:
Ole doesn't know any coaches. Managers bring in guys they have connections to or hire promising young managers who want to train under the best. Ole isn't any of those. He has no pedigree whatsoever so no one will want to learn under him.

Also you aren't ole out, your whole posts reeks of you wanting anything to change your mind of keeping him as manager. If you were realistic you'd see his situation as untenable. The players don't want him here anymore, he should be gone yesterday.

Your wishy-washiness has me thinking you're actually part of our board
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Eh?

I'm not living in dream land and wishing for something that clearly isn't happening right now.

All the noise this morning and late last night is that Man Utd aren't looking to replace him. So we do the next best thing and hire externally and say here Ole, here's some new coaches. Work with them. He doesn't have to know them personally, or at all for that matter. Just give him some new coaches.

Literally Ducker has said, that the club aren't looking to replace him right now. That's not saying not ever, it's saying right now.

I was just as in the dumps as everyone else at the weekend and believe that yes it may be a good idea to replace him, but if that's not what the club wants to do, I'm not gonna sit here and wish for a new shiny toy, just because I'm not hearing the news I don't want to hear.
 
Seriously for once in our lives just act like a fecking football club and sack the man

The reports today/yesterday coming from briefs from the players is saying everything, they have given up and want him sacked.

What are we waiting for?
 
the_cliff said:
He'll be gone today tbh, can't see anything different, the more I think about it the more I realise that after all the reports yesterday he can't continue. Would be gross incompetence from our board.
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That’s why we are all confident he is staying:lol:
 
Highfather_24 said:
The worst case scenario : We hire Conte, the football is dull as feck(much worse than Ole's), and we win nothing anyway(likely considering the competition).
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Even in the worst case scenario, we wouldn't be seeing a humiliation like the Liverpool match. It's not the scoreline, but the manner of the defeat which was embarassing.
 
UnitedSofa said:
Eh?

I'm not living in dream land and wishing for something that clearly isn't happening right now.

All the noise this morning and late last night is that Man Utd aren't looking to replace him. So we do the next best thing and hire externally and say here Ole, here's some new coaches. Work with them. He doesn't have to know them personally, or at all for that matter. Just give him some new coaches.

Literally Ducker has said, that the club aren't looking to replace him right now. That's not saying not ever, it's saying right now.

I was just as in the dumps as everyone else at the weekend and believe that yes it may be a good idea to replace him, but if that's not what the club wants to do, I'm not gonna sit here and wish for a new shiny toy, just because I'm not hearing the news I don't want to hear.
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Again no one is coming to Manchester united to learn from ole. Even before he had one foot out of the door no promising coaches would want to learn under someone who's managerial highlight is getting a club relegated. You're living in a dreamland
 
Devil may care said:
People saying the club are embarrassing for not sacking him but I think it's more to do with them having no direct alternative as they rightfully have doubts about Conte's style and more importantly for them his abrasive personality when he doesn't get what he wants, and Zidane apparently isn't interested.
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I know, I'm all for changing manager now but some in the FF's want him escorted immediately off the premises, to hell with creating a chaotic void for the next 2 weeks.
 
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