I've complained about our poor, unorganised, individualistic pressing and have been told that, no, you're wrong - we do press well.
How Potter gets Brighton to press on not even half the budget of Ole's is an example of an organised press as a team.
Ole has no system that I can see ..... or do I just need better glasses?
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How Potter gets Brighton to press on not even half the budget of Ole's is an example of an organised press as a team.
His system is overlapping wingbacks. Problem is out of Shaw + Rashford and AWB + Greenwood, Rashford has been in poor form for a while and isn’t linking up as well as he should, and on the right, AWB just can’t play this system, and Greenwood really is a CF.
Sancho would make a really big difference to this team, it would mean we could move Greenwood to the left or middle when Rashford/Martial is off form. Rashford really can’t play on the right cause he has no left foot and can’t cross particular well either. This is why we’re such a form team, if any one of these four is off form it affects the entire performance.
Sancho would make a really big difference to this team, it would mean we could move Greenwood to the left or middle when Rashford/Martial is off form. Rashford really can’t play on the right cause he has no left foot and can’t cross particular well either. This is why we’re such a form team, if any one of these four is off form it affects the entire performance.
"Fast, attacking football" isn't a system, it's an ideal. It's an aim to work towards. Solskjaer knows the type of football he wants the team to play; he just seems to have next to no idea about how to actually get there. The basic idea is there: energetic, pacy attacking players, with creative, mobile midfielders. Great. But then what? What happens is that we go through purple patches when these quality attacking players hit form and look utterly tragic when they are a little off their game because there are no automatisms, no patterns or structures.
He also doesn't help himself with some of his own decisions: buying the world's slowest centre-back, trying to play out from the back with a right-back who is awful on the ball, and so on.
This place is full of experts..... They know it all.
Pity they re stuck here moaning all the time
I wish we had some of the cafe experts running this football club that the cnuts we currently have now, I guarantee you we'd be in a better position!
This is a man who is not happy about waking up at 4:30am for this shit
On the east coast at the moment so only half as unhappy.
That doesn't mean anything. People here are fans. They aren't in contention for a multi million dollar job running Manches United. I know you want to be a big baby and bitch about fans having an opinion, but you're just rambling really.
Really . ?
I have to admit I'm starting to lose faith in Ole to turn this around. Last season for some time I thought we were slowly but surely getting there but the end of last season and now this start have a complete regress, we look as bad as we ever did.
I m not anything, just bored of the same bunch moaning as soon as anything go wrong.
Yeah I can see it now. In the dressing room.
“Cmon lads! Fecking do something!
What?
I don’t know, you’re the footballer.
But you’re the manager
Shut up!
A lot of us felt the same when we were winning, too.
You're trying to paint this as a kneejerk reaction but it isn't. It's based off two years of evidence.
Evidence of people still.angry the club didn't appoint their favorite coach
Yes I am a WUM for pointing out Moyes, LVG and Mou did not okay exactly the same football
Moyes was a reactive manager who often set up the team to try an nullify the opposition, he wasn’t massive on keeping possession, liked to switch flanks
LvG wasn’t reactive at all, his philosophy was based on possession and dominating the pitch.
Mou probably had the most organised team, his philosophy was to completely shut off the oppositions attack and hit on the counter.
There’s much more to all of these managers and these are only really headlines, but they are all very different. The results may ave been similar but they did not all play “exactly the same way”
So as said before not a WUM I just watch football
Angry that the club were the kneejerkers and appointed Ole based off a flukey win over PSG and a decent run in the league prior.
So about that great Brighton "system"...
Never ever seen ‘system’ or ‘passing pattern’ on the score sheet. Who are these amazing players that these guys go on about?
If it wasn't for woodwork we would be miles behind.
Eh a lot of people have always said we don't have a system, I'm tending to agree. Our form after Mou was sacked was because the players wanted to prove a point. Then our form late last season was thanks to Bruno playing out of this world. That magic from bruno has dropped off a bit and it's starting to show with how much we're struggling
It just seems like we have no system and the majority of goals we have scored has been due to individual brilliance. I'd like Ole to prove me wrong, but I can't see any good tactics. It all seems a right mess at the minute
Yes the mighty Brighton is somehow playing better football than us. We are playing like we are facing Barcelona. But honestly, Brighton possession based style falls right into our hands as last season showed, we win more games when we give the opposition possession of the ball.
Are you being fickle on purpose? We might win a game or two playing this garbage but an actual working system is going to be needed to win something.
We've been utter crap since we scored.
I'm trying hard....but I'll be honest I can't see an awful lot
Once again, individual brilliance and our goal posts (Brighton hit the post 5 times so far) saving his ass. Never seen a manager as lucky as him in football.
People will keep defending Ole pointing out the score while ignoring another terrible performance and how lucky we were. And this is my real first anti-Ole post, I am done, can't watch this dross anymore.
You mean the system in which they've created several chances, hit the woodwork 5 times, forced us to park the bus after 60 minutes and make 2 defensive changes?
The team is basically set up to make sure we don't complicate things and take advantage of the above when it happens.
well put
. It is glaringly obvious now that Ole freestyle football will not get us back on top. I have not seen a more lucky manager than Ole in football ever. This will surely give him more time, when it is obvious that he isn’t the right guy to lead us forward.Completely destroyed us.
That's the thing. It's all about the manager. Something a lot of our fans don't understand.
We've looked woefully under coached for years. I don't really get what we are as a team, rely on magic of our obviously quality players.
Diddums. Bad day for you. Sorry we won
My thinking too.
So sorry for you that we won. Gonna be a long season for you guys only dream that we lose so our manager gets the sack
How anyone could have watched this match and still honestly believe we have a system, or a plan, or a philosophy beyond just throwing players on the pitch in some sort of formation and saying "do your thing" is beyond me.
I'm happy we won. What are you on about?
Imagine Mourinho parking the bus like this?
Nah I dont want to lose. I just want Ole to get sacked.
Everyone is happy we won. No one wants the manager sacked for the sake of it. Can you honestly tell us we look an organised team under Ole?
Clueless.
Swap the managers for today's game and the result wouldn't even be close.
He has a system, only thing is most managers in the PL have better ones, he's just blessed with a really good first 11.
He has a system, only thing is most managers in the PL have better ones, he's just blessed with a really good first 11.
Brighton, Liverpool, Luton...doesn't matter. Sit back and wait for counter.