Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4

Is Ole a good appointment?


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Only worry is Poch changed up his system in the 2nd half which resulted in them dominating the game creating 5+ clear cut chances and our coaching staff failed to do anything to counter it.

We're lucky to have De Gea.
 
Moyes was overachieving at Everton
Not really. He did well to get them up to a decent level in his first few seasons after they'd been poor for quite some time, but after that there was never any sign of him developing them any further. From memory they had the fifth highest wage bill in the league, and he had them generally finishing fifth to seventh. He got them to fourth once, and also had a couple of very poor seasons. They generally played a fairly average (being kind) style of football as well. Not much has changed for them since he left.

Meanwhile Poch has been competing with, and normally outperforming, quite a few clubs with superior finances than he has. Indeed financially Spurs are at a similar level as what Moyes Everton were. He's doing it with quite a good style of play as well.
 
We have 3 inexperienced coaches at this level with Phelan the steadying influence and who knows if there is the odd word of wisdom from the great man in the background. I would like to see a lot more of this set up rather than bring someone else in during the summer with a whole new back room team.

Ole, Carrick and Mckenna please for the future of Manchester United.
 
I’d be curious as to the sort of player he’d target in transfers if he were made permanent manager.

Moyes liked his old favourites irrespective of whether they were actually good enough for United(Fellaini, Baines etc), LVG had his own quirky criteria (Left footed CB) and Mourinho liked his hulking, 6ft+ flat track bullies.

Granted our incoming DoF will probably have more of a say but I’d like to see where Ole’s muppet radar zones in.

A DOF is mandatory regardless of who ends up being our next manager. It can only be an asset, can't it? We might even need to change a lot of our scouting network. I have not been impressed the recent years.
 
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The season was a write off when he was appointed. Suddenly the treble is on - 4th, Fa Cup and the CL. Attack, attack, attack. Utd way.

Once the pressure is back on I expect the inconsistency to creep back in but fair do's Spurs turned up and were..... Spurs.

Still no commitment to contracts from De Gea and Martial.

You also know that snide little prick of a manager will want to do all he can to stop us winning the league and will certainly look to beat us at their place. Going all out to beat us which will play into our hands. That for me will be the turning point in the race for the title. City turn up there a month later and they'll play for the draw no doubt.
The only reason OGS is there is because he was a good player for them. They would obviously never have brought in the manager of Molde otherwise. He’s only there because of sentimentality and to appease the fanbase. The more intelligent Utd fans (and the board) should be worried, because with every game he wins, the bigger the clamour will be to give him the job, and how is the Molde manager going to be of sufficient managerial acumen in a league where Pep and Jurgen reign supreme? Unless their only ambition is to push for top 4 from now on.
It's fabulously giddy, bordering on jiggy over at the caf. He's sprinkled that magic dust far and wide
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Lovely stuff.

Put a bit more distance between ourselves and Spurs, papers over the cracks for a while longer, the media hype machine goes into overdrive so all they’ll talk about all week is them instead of us, and the longer Solskjaer papers over their cracks the more chance they have of hilariously giving him the job permanently. Wonderful.
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They’ll get shown up, yet again, for what they are sooner or later, but hopefully there’ll be enough of them on the Solskjaer hype train by then that the board will have to give him the job just to avoid the fans going all “green and gold” on them again.
I think they like Ole, they do
oooh, Ole, they love you
 
Ole's press conferences are a joy to watch. No mind games. No unnecessary statements. Of course its easy to be nice when things are going so well but going by the way he handles the complicated questions, it seems like he has a knack for these things.
 
With unlimited transfer funds and only one other club that's a real competition in Norway. I'm not trying to take away what he's accomplished, just a bit concerned on how well he will do without the current staff to help him.
Backroom staff are obviously vitally important, and OGS seems to have brought so much unity/enjoyment back to the club/staff/players/fans etc.

But it's a bit unfair to wonder how much influence the support staff has when we're doing well - but what about when we were fairly shit under Mourinho - what influence did Carrick/McKenna have back then?

It seems clear (perception obviously) that Carrick/McKenna are having much more of an influence for sure, than under Mourinho, but none of us know that for sure. Also, everyone having a greater input, and there being more unity is also a direct testament to how well OGS is doing.

There are obviously a lot of question marks for OGS - should he get the job permanently - but he's been answering a lot of those questions week by week. And his backroom staff obviously all have an input - but ultimately, the responsibility of good performances vs poor ones, will rest with OGS.
 
Going to say this, don't even think it's that crazy to, but; the fear factor is back. We'll see a different United at Old Trafford next weekend and a different type of attitude from the opposition.
They had it too easy over the past couple of years. No more insults to this football club whence newly arrived Huddersfield players give post-match interviews saying how surprised they were about the low intensity and the ease of playing against United.

Yes after yesterday no one will look forward to play against us.
 
This is stuff of fairy tales. 6 out of 6 wins, first manager to do so. A legend player coming back to save the team/season. Top 4 doesn't look so impossible anymore. I suddenly begins to love some of the players. Man Utd got its attacking identity back.

May the fairy tales goes on.
 
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I think they like Ole, they do
oooh, Ole, they love you


'Snide little prick of a manager'?

Urgh, such a nasty bunch. How do you ever write that?

'How is the Molde manager going to be of sufficient managerial acumen in a league where Pep and Jurgen reign supreme?'

Well, after four years in the job, it looks like the manager who took Dortmund to seventh place in a two-horse race in Germany is threatening to win his first trophy. Anything is possible.
 
'Snide little prick of a manager'?

Urgh, such a nasty bunch. How do you ever write that?

'How is the Molde manager going to be of sufficient managerial acumen in a league where Pep and Jurgen reign supreme?'

Well, after four years in the job, it looks like the manager who took Dortmund to seventh place in a two-horse race in Germany is threatening to win his first trophy. Anything is possible.
They have never forgiven him for '99 quarter final of the FA Cup.

They christened him the evil pixie...
 
Only worry is Poch changed up his system in the 2nd half which resulted in them dominating the game creating 5+ clear cut chances and our coaching staff failed to do anything to counter it.

We're lucky to have De Gea.

Yes, obviously we are lucky to have De Gea. What should we have done to counter Spurs at that point though? I think after 60 minutes Spurs finally started exploiting the weaknesses in our defence which started showing after we fatigued somewhat. He couldn't really do anything about it because the ones on the pitch were our only fit defenders. We could have done with some more energy and defensive stability in midfield to help out the defence but the truth is none of the midfielders on the bench have proven they can be trusted in big games like these. We're just lacking quality in depth really.

Ole's press conferences are a joy to watch. No mind games. No unnecessary statements. Of course its easy to be nice when things are going so well but going by the way he handles the complicated questions, it seems like he has a knack for these things.

Thoroughly agree with this. Really like how he shot down the reporter who tried to make this game about him vs Poch instead of Man Utd vs Spurs as well.
 
'Snide little prick of a manager'?

Urgh, such a nasty bunch. How do you ever write that?

'How is the Molde manager going to be of sufficient managerial acumen in a league where Pep and Jurgen reign supreme?'

Well, after four years in the job, it looks like the manager who took Dortmund to seventh place in a two-horse race in Germany is threatening to win his first trophy. Anything is possible.

Jurgen reigns supreme with as many league titles in his career as Ole and level with him on the amount of trophies won in the premier league.:rolleyes:
 
Still just another Craig Shakespeare right now.

Second half was poor, like England's vs Croatia. Lots to improve.

We did perfect in the first half. Ole outplayed Poch. In the second half we had to sit back a bit more because its hard to play like we do. The players are growing under Ole and his style.

Even though we had tired legs in the second half, we never gave up attacking. We were pretty close to make it 2-0. Thats a big big change for us.
 
The part about Rashford and Martial starting only 15 times together under Mou is criminal. Talk about sabotaging yourself.


The biggest myth Jose peddled has to have been how Martial and Rashford couldn't play together
 
It’s hard to find fault with someone who’s been remarkable in such a short space of time. But as a manager of Man Utd, he’ll have to be better at managing a game. When Spurs changed their shape, we just kept playing the same way as in the first half. His first substitute can’t just always be Lukaku by default.

I agree, but I also think he sees it as his job/mandate to get as many of the players possible going no matter what form they're in, not just squeeze out results. An expensive player like Lukaku needs to be given the chance so that the club can find out whether he should have a future with us or not.

But still, I agree. Winning matches is still the most important thing and it was difficult so tactically justify what he brought to the game when he came on...
 
I wonder what they actually did in Dubai as all our players in the second half looked dead on their feet.

Surely our game plan from the first half of countering would have been perfect with how many bodies they threw forward but we looked gassed.

Would have preferred it if he took a more proactive approach to stopping Spurs dominance and not just rely on De Gea.

One of the alleged reasons for which we went to Dubai was poor fitness levels of our players. We supposed to catch up in this regard.
You won't do it in four days.
 
I agree, but I also think he sees it as his job/mandate to get as many of the players possible going no matter what form they're in, not just squeeze out results. An expensive player like Lukaku needs to be given the chance so that the club can find out whether he should have a future with us or not.

But still, I agree. Winning matches is still the most important thing and it was difficult so tactically justify what he brought to the game when he came on...

Spurs were gaining momentum in the game and had Kane, Alli, Lamela, Son and Eriksen who are all goal scoring forwards and quite capable of keeping the ball. We had two centre backs and two holding midfielders to mark them and that created a 4 v 5 overload. We needed another midfielder in there to stem the flow. Bringing Lukaku for Martial is opposite of that. Even just a formation change would help.

We have two home games next and it's a lot easier to give game time to players now.
 
Spurs were gaining momentum in the game and had Kane, Alli, Lamela, Son and Eriksen who are all goal scoring forwards and quite capable of keeping the ball. We had two centre backs and two holding midfielders to mark them and that created a 4 v 5 overload. We needed another midfielder in there to stem the flow. Bringing Lukaku for Martial is opposite of that. Even just a formation change would help.

We have two home games next and it's a lot easier to give game time to players now.

Yeah, I agree.
 
The strange thing about people and who they think is a class manager is pretty awesome. If the manager is from Spain, Argentina, France or Italy, they are better. If they got a cool name, they are better.

I have worked with a lot of people and usually you cant tell a lot of a person before the person get a chance. Cristiano Ronaldo was never a star before he got the chance to be one. Sir Alex was nothing before he got the chance to be something.

Lets enjoy United under Ole and see what happens.

What are they smoking at RAWK at the moment? :lol:
 


The biggest myth Jose peddled has to have been how Martial and Rashford couldn't play together


What he actually meant was, he has no faith in starting two young attackers. At best he is willing to give one "kid" a start because he has to since he manages Manchester United. Whoever was willing to play as a fullback was chosen to start. Of course he was willing to swap one of those kids for an old hardworking winger like Willian or Perisic because that's all he knows.
 
Only worry is Poch changed up his system in the 2nd half which resulted in them dominating the game creating 5+ clear cut chances and our coaching staff failed to do anything to counter it.

We're lucky to have De Gea.

You forgot that it's an away fixture. I think with the team like Tottenham playing at their own turf (London), it's only natural for them to give their all to score at the 2nd half.

Normally they would score, but De Gea's brilliance is also down to Ole's great trust and belief he brought to the team. I truly believe that the coaching staff tried their best to negate any threat in the 2nd half, I saw some pragmatism.

But we went through it somehow. Football is more than just tactics, luck is a part of skill too.
 
Got to thank LVG for these two. Even if Rashford's opportunity wasn't planned at all!
Still deserves credit. Do you think Mourinho would have given him his debut in the same situation?
 
Got to thank LVG for these two. Even if Rashford's opportunity wasn't planned at all!

Why would you thank LvG for Martial? :lol:

The guy admitted he wasn't even following football, he bought Rojo because he watched him the first time at the World Cup. No way he knew who Martial is at the time we boight him.
 
Got to thank LVG for these two. Even if Rashford's opportunity wasn't planned at all!

No we don't. He was a failure. Lucked out with both of those. feck Moyes, feck LVG and feck Mourinho, they're has beens who were too far up their own arses to understand what this club is about.
 
Hello Fellani, you're playing up front today.
Remember people defending Mourinho's refusal to bring Chong on against Juve despite not making any substitutes lined up.
For all LVG's faults, he would have had the courage to play him.
 
Got to thank LVG for these two. Even if Rashford's opportunity wasn't planned at all!

Thank you LVG for being forced out of the club before you managed to ruin them with your horrific zombieball.