Because sentimentality aside, Poch is a PL proven manager that’s turned Spurs into a a consistent champions league side that plays attractive football, whereas Ole got Cardiff relegated.Why does Ole have to win the CL to get the job but not Pochettino?Equality, and all that...
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4
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Back to positive, attacking football .
.Cardiff was a mess at that time though with the owners meddling etc. He was praised for how he setup and managed the Utd academy team and i don't think tactically clueless managers take a club to back to back titles for the first time in their history. Molde won one title since and that was in the season he left to take the Cardiff job so he had guided them half way to that one too. They finished 2nd behind Rosenborg in the last season.
I don't really see that there is a risk, he is loved by the fans and will try and play the way the club demands. We're not getting into top 4 nor are we getting relegated so it's a free hit. I think he'll bring back the feel good factor.
Well let's see what Ole can do with a club/squad that isn't destined for relegation.
Yeah I’d obviously expect him to do better, but regardless he still has a lot more to prove than Poch to warrant the permanent job.
You're right. Logically it makes no sense. If he wasnt a beloved ex player we wouldnt have chosen a manager who was managing in Norway. He hasnt been chosen because he has got the skills or talent, its just because he's Ole. Lets see how this pans out.
Did SAF went from St Mirren to the biggest club in the wolrd? no, went at Alberdeen and did wonders there winning European trophies and beating the like of Celtic and Rangers to the SL and got rewarded with a contract at a big club. So the comparison doesn't stand.
And yes, what he faced at Cardiff is completely different to what he will face at United, surely more pressure and more problems and difficulties. If you struggle to drive a Toyota, I don't see how you'll going to drive a Ferrari like Schumacher.
Apart from the fact Norwegian league is a nothing league, Ole has already proven that he wasn't competent for the PL and failed also in the championship and was rightly sacked by Cardiff.
So who is being blinded by love here? you or me? the irony.
"To answer your completely illogical ramblings"
. No one is hard to reason than an United fan defending his new manager, then fast forward the same fan will be blaming Woodward for being clueless. Like I said, I have a feeling of a deja vu with this, so nothing surprise me anymore.
Let's just hope things turn good and he succeed here, no need to argue against each other, Mourinho is not here anymore.
I liked Mourinho, wanted him to succeed Fergie and was happy we got him. However, appointing Conte in any capacity would look like a club with absolutely no idea what they're doing. Perhaps Chelsea reject was strong but we should go no where near.
Bayern.
Agreed. Appointment which pleases the club, and that was required. He is under no pressure at all. None. A good CL run would be superb for him, the players and the club. Hope we give the FA Cup a really good crack too.
I don't want Wiggy either, just saying facts are facts. Mourinho is one of the most successful managers ever. More than a Chelsea reject in fairness
Emotionally this is a good appointment. A legend of the club loved by all returns to steady ship. Tactically and performance wise it will be interesting to see how it goes. We have a good bunch of players in our team, if he can make them play well within themselves he will do well.
However it could all go horribly wrong of course. Only time will tell.
However it could all go horribly wrong of course. Only time will tell.
My view, i hope and think OGS will play a straight setup with fast wingers. Think Rashford might be center striker against cardiff with Martial on one side and Young other. Think the key approach will be keep it simple and forward. In attack players with speed and Pogba, Fred/Matic in centre. Pretty sure it will be an 442 composition. As for strikers Rashford a 9 and 10 im not sure. Defence is very hard to predict but we will definitely not play VG/Mou possession type. Very hard to be objective for this as a Norwegian but Fergie for sure has had his say here. I hope the fans can stand behind the team for the rest of the season. Glory Glory
His defensive record at Molde is poor too. It points to a manager that can't organise a defence which is one of our major weaknesses. That's why I'm worried.
Imagine if somehow Solskjaer restores the players' collective confidence and morale and we make it to the ECL final.
Imagine, even more, that we win it, twenty years later exactly, with the winning goal going in late, only for the commentator to scream, "....And Solskjaer has won it, again!!!"
Imagine, even more, that we win it, twenty years later exactly, with the winning goal going in late, only for the commentator to scream, "....And Solskjaer has won it, again!!!"
The international language of football?
I see Seville heritage here.
From that article :-
"Coaching and being out on the training ground is not something he is against, far from it, but analysing games and delegating is where he excels."
Who does that sound like? ^
Flip side of that is our defenders aren't exactly the envy of the league, so maybe we should focus on taking the game to the other team and hope DDG can bring back God Mode?
Then, sort the defence in the summer under the new manager, whoever that may be, and hope they don't think 80m for Harry Maguire is good business.
He won't antagonise fans, he won't fall out with players and he sure as hell won't throw anyone under the bus. Best case scenario he gets the players enjoying their football again, we see an immediate lift and have enjoyable few months of attacking football.
Enjoy the ride everyone
Enjoy the ride everyone
Frank Rijkaard - Relegated at Sparta Rotterdam
Jürgen Klopp - Relegated at Mainz 05
Arsène Wenger - Relegated with Nancy
Claudio Ranieri - Relegated at Atlético Madrid (resigned before it happened)
Will people stop going on about relegation at Cardiff as if its a barometer for the rest of his entire fecking career.
Jürgen Klopp - Relegated at Mainz 05
Arsène Wenger - Relegated with Nancy
Claudio Ranieri - Relegated at Atlético Madrid (resigned before it happened)
Will people stop going on about relegation at Cardiff as if its a barometer for the rest of his entire fecking career.
Tbf if you put an attack minded manager in charge of a team expected to get relegated, it usually doesnt end well. How do you expect Pep or Klopp would do if they were in charge of Burnley or Huddersfield? Probably get relegated and these "genius moves" would be seen as head scratchers gone wrong. Some teams just need the Big Sam type of manager to save them, while other managers are just more suited to bigger teams rather than small teams.
Conte - Relegated with Atalanta
If players think they have been stifled by jose with his style its their chance to prove they can win games attacking the opposition and keeping the ball and high pressing.
Let's see how good they can be.
It only applies some player. We dont need more proof of what valencia and the rest of the gang can do. If 10 years isnt enough than i doubt a few mths under the new manager would mean much.
Because not everyone that plays football in Norway speaks Norwegian, but every Norwegian speaks English?
My interpretation of this appointment is that Ole has been appointed decidedly for the purpose of raising confidence and morale in the entire squad between now and the end of season. Naturally, success in results is the optimal hope for any appointment, however, if you think of this period as creating a non-toxic, confident, happy environment for the next manager, then you will go some way to understanding why Ole's appointment happened.
Woodward has prioritised short-term morale improvement over and above immediate results, precisely because it's the best way to set up well for long-term improvements.
Woodward has prioritised short-term morale improvement over and above immediate results, precisely because it's the best way to set up well for long-term improvements.
I'm not suggesting Hiddink or Rafa but I'm merely pointing out that when you said that 'no unemployed manager with some reputation wouldn't accept a 6 month contract ever' you were wrong and I have provided 3 examples which prove that you were wrong.
That's rather the exception than the norm.
It wasn't last year though, with the same players. I really think it's a confidence issue. Bring back the joy in football, give the players some confidence and we'll improve rapidly.
This... Phelan coming back with Ole slightly makes this an acceptable move. Ole will have good combination of past (Phelan) and current (Carrick) tactics at his disposalPhelan's coming home, he's coming home, he's coming. Genuinely more excited for him being back than Ole, it's absolutely hilarious, and he's probably like a pig in shit right now, can't believe his luck
Did SAF went from St Mirren to the biggest club in the wolrd? no, went at Alberdeen and did wonders there winning European trophies and beating the like of Celtic and Rangers to the SL and got rewarded with a contract at a big club. So the comparison doesn't stand.
And yes, what he faced at Cardiff is completely different to what he will face at United, surely more pressure and more problems and difficulties. If you struggle to drive a Toyota, I don't see how you'll going to drive a Ferrari like Schumacher.
Apart from the fact Norwegian league is a nothing league, Ole has already proven that he wasn't competent for the PL and failed also in the championship and was rightly sacked by Cardiff.
So who is being blinded by love here? you or me? the irony.
"To answer your completely illogical ramblings"
No one is hard to reason than an United fan defending his new manager, then fast forward the same fan will be blaming Woodward for being clueless. Like I said, I have a feeling of a deja vu with this, so nothing surprise me anymore.
Let's just hope things turn good and he succeed here, no need to argue against each other, Mourinho is not here anymore.
This isn't a long term appointment, so I don't think it will turn out to be traumatic. Worst case scenario, he will do a 15/16 Hiddink with Chelsea and finish an underwhelming 10th place with no significant achievement.
I'd agree with your views if it were a long term appointment.
Yeah, it doesn't apply to players like Valencia, young, jones, smalling, rojo, type players, but probably true for the rest of the squad. Players are on spotlight.
Because they have foreign players as well. In that clip (from 2011 - I think) he's adressing a Nigerian and probably a Brazilian (and a Swede).
Forward planning?
He knew that one day thousands of United fans (who mostly speak English.... of sorts) would be gossiping online, need a boost and it would be shared.
Norwegians are so considerate.