Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4

Is Ole a good appointment?

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Amadaeus said:
Of course it will be much easier to implement the managerial philosophy with having a consistent first eleven, but it doesn’t mean that they are somehow on par to one of the best team in Europe. The eleven we put out was stronger than the Ajax 11 despite us missing 10 players. Ajax chemistry may be a bit higher, but it is not like these United players just played with each other for the first time. They have created understanding in training and none of them seem out of places yesterday beside Bailly and that was corrected early on because for some strange reason Ole taught it would be a great idea to put him as a right back. I expect higher pressing and in intervals in the game we saw that and it was very effective. Their mistake was caused by pressing and with the small moment of time we had control. When we sit backed, we just invited more pressure on ourselves and because of complacency and psg misfiring, we got away with it without those meddling kids from Scooby-Doo.



You have a predetermined narrative you are so sure that is right, which is why you can’t see reality. After this win, I have been praising ole a lot about the victory, which you have purposefully ignored.
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Look, my post was written mostly as a joke. You have your opinion and you’re sticking to it, which is fine. We’re all just sharing our opinions here.

As far as the post quoted goes, I think you’re half right. It wouldn’t have worked vs many other top teams, but like someone else alluded to earlier, PSG have this chip on their shoulders when it comes to the CL. To try to wait them out and stress them into becoming complacent and making mistakes was a valid tactic, in this instance, which I tried to tell you during the game. I have seen your praise, and agree especially with the part about good managers being lucky, which I think is mostly down to making their own luck.
 
Amadaeus said:
Of course it will be much easier to implement the managerial philosophy with having a consistent first eleven, but it doesn’t mean that they are somehow on par to one of the best team in Europe. The eleven we put out was stronger than the Ajax 11 despite us missing 10 players. Ajax chemistry may be a bit higher, but it is not like these United players just played with each other for the first time. They have created understanding in training
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This whole paragraph is pretty funny but especially the last bit gives it away that you know very little about football if you think playing together in training is any kind of similar to actual experiences on the field in the competitive environment were you able to build coherence and partnerships over the seasons. I’ll leave you to it, you seem gutted by the win anyway.
 
abdo99 said:
What a disgusting quotes :lol: even if he believed it why destroy the morale and vibes in pre season? ole is making a mockery of him.
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I think it was after we got twatted 4-1 against Liverpool, so Jose had to scapegoat someone.
 
Ole's got the job. He must have.

His next big test will be when we start failing. A bad run of form will happen. We'll be on a losing run and players and fans will start blaming him.

Hopefully that won't happen this year though!
 
He's like that teacher who is so good, you'd do your homework, not wanting to disappoint him. Our players actually love him don't they? You could see it in their interactions with Ole. For l the talk about Mourinho creating an us vs them mentality, he's never successful. He only talked about himself and alienated some players. In his time here we never really looked like a team.. May be except the first few weeks of his tenure.

And Ole has come in and shaped this group of players into a team. With nothing but some positive reinforcement. And not by being egocentric, but being a modest unpretentious human being.

I know people still think this is a honeymoon phase for us, and our players will fall into their old habits. But I'd really like Ole as our permanent manager. He seems tailor made for his position.
 
Yagami said:
Without a doubt. It's nothing new, though. It's why myself and plenty of others never wanted him here in the first place.. The outcome of his tenure wasn't a surprise at all. The only surprise was that a lot of United fans were still backing him this season!
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First reply is exactly the type of cultists we have in here. No choice, no choice, same shit was spouting about LvG and Rashford when it was used as example to hammer their supreme leader.
 
Can someone post the league table when OGS was appointed and the league table now? I think I need to be reminded what a job he did and how badly Jose did....
 
One of the many things I love about what Ole's done is how he's made the club feel unique again. We're not just any other club, we're Utd. The number of times his answer to a question has been "This is Man Utd" or "These are Man Utd players". It just means something special to play for, or support, Man Utd again and he's done an amazing job of reminding the players, the fans, the media even, that we are different.
 
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roonster09 said:


One manager played down these young players, other manager thought it was good opportunity for these young players to show what they are capable of.

Jose is just the most anti ManUtd manager we have ever seen.
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I'd forgot about that. Looking back im amazed we started the season with him, just so much negativity from the offset. So glad he's gone.
 
Give him the job. I was against it to be honest, but he's lost 1 game in 17, and even then it was a 2 legged game and we knocked that team out in the 2nd leg so.
 
DSG said:
I think it’s a bit more likely for the players to believe in OGS. As a player, he’s done just about everything at the club level. He coached the reserves. He’s tactically bright. He’s managed in the CL. I’m not sure why Cardiff didn’t work out. All I know is, he’s the right manager for us at this point in time.
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Not every manager can work at a small club in those conditions. If you put Pep or Zidane at what Cardiff was at the time (a club that looked a certainty for relegation) then they probably would have done an awful job as well.

That kind of job is made for your Pulis’ and your big Sam’s, and in the same vein they most likely won’t be able to translate their skillset to a Barcelona or Real Madrid.
 
Cloud7 said:
Not every manager can work at a small club in those conditions. If you put Pep or Zidane at what Cardiff was at the time (a club that looked a certainty for relegation) then they probably would have done an awful job as well.

That kind of job is made for your Pulis’ and your big Sam’s, and in the same vein they most likely won’t be able to translate their skillset to a Barcelona or Real Madrid.
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I think Ole said as much when asked. He wanted to instill his ethos, it wasn't the right ethos for that club at that time, didn't have the players to achieve it
 
Keyser said:
I think Ole said as much when asked. He wanted to instill his ethos, it wasn't the right ethos for that club at that time, didn't have the players to achieve it
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Yeah. It’s pretty clear watching the way he sends his United teams out that he’s a manager for a big club, where the aim is to go out and win, not to not lose.
 
Isnt it refreshing to have a manager who's breaking all the right records not the record for number of crosses/ losing to a smaller club for the first time in however long ones!

I do however also realise the importance of Mike Phelan/ Carrick/ McKenna etc so if we do appoint Ole permanently I think its important we also get Phelan and the others as they seem to work so well together and have different experiences and views to share.

It's at a point now where if we don't choose Ole and the next manager, especially if it's someone that isnt even Pochettino comes in and starts badly they risk it being more toxic than with Jose

Didn't one of the commentators on BT pick up on the fact Ole was talking Dalot through the game? Also how brave to trust the kids!

They are also doing a great job of making the more average players look good, players lots of us have questioned- apart from the odd shaky moment both Mctominay and Fred did really well last night and Lukaku, again we played as a team with passion. It was something Sir Alex was great at too. It helps he doesn't give these negative comments so they have confidence in themselves.

I just hope we can still make signings as hes almost making our squad look complete!

I would like to see better ball retention, most of the times we had the ball we were able to threaten them while calming ourselves down, we want to be able to slow the game down at times and control it. PSG were very good at it, it would just give us an added dimension.
 
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Picking up my phone makes me feel so fecking happy

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He's got to get the job surely. It would be appalling if he didn't. Give him a two or maybe a three year contract and see how he does.
 
tomaldinho1 said:
But you cut out the king?
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Didn't fit. Was either two of the three or keep the picture of my cat.

It's an absolutely smashing picture

Samid said:
Probably didn't recognise him.
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Totally. Growing up I had a life size cardboard copy of some other french guy on my bedroom wall for 10 years. Might have been David Bellion.

That or I felt it was a bit harsh to not include Ole in his own celebration...
 
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roonster09 said:


One manager played down these young players, other manager thought it was good opportunity for these young players to show what they are capable of.

Jose is just the most anti ManUtd manager we have ever seen.
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It's a disgrace we ever hired him
 
That speech after Sevilla was disgusting! :mad: And playing down our games against Liverpool and City because he 'doesn't get the rivalry'? Feck off!
 
DRM said:
I'd forgot about that. Looking back im amazed we started the season with him, just so much negativity from the offset. So glad he's gone.
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That speech of his was a sackable offense. But we didn't have the coj0nes.
 
Frosty said:
Can someone post the league table when OGS was appointed and the league table now? I think I need to be reminded what a job he did and how badly Jose did....
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Not quite the same but think it's better to post their individual records because the league table now doesn't do justice to what Ole has achieved.

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The change he was brought to United's fortunes this season is startling. I expected PSG to finish off the job last night. He hasn't moaned, criticised and has only been positive. The change since Mourinho is remarkable. I'm now convinced Mourinho agitated to be released from his contract. Solksjaer did right to move on Fellaini. Not a MU player. Lukaku looks like he's back to his best. Pogba is rejuvenated.
If he does get the job, most likely now, I would advise him to aim for evolution rather than revolution. I think aim to get champions league football for the next two full seasons. Bring on the young prospects. Continue to work well with what he inherited. Gradually filter out players he doesn't want. Gradually introduce new players into the squad.
 
roonster09 said:


One manager played down these young players, other manager thought it was good opportunity for these young players to show what they are capable of.

Jose is just the most anti ManUtd manager we have ever seen.
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He started this season with no intention to finish it. The toys were out of the pram from pre-season.

Feck him.
 
he's also still unbeaten as quite a few posters have mentioned. The 0-2 was only the 1st half. it doesn't count .
 
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