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SAF used to say it all the time! Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4
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SAF used to say it all the time! Just keep things as they are. I don't want to jinkx this run we are on. Can't we just give Ole the job without saying he has the job? So say 5 years down the road Ole is in charge but we still call him the "interm manager"
This!!!
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Just keep things as they are. I don't want to jinx this run we are on. Can't we just give Ole the job without saying he has the job? So say 5 years down the road Ole is in charge but we still call him the "interm manager"
We can have two positions: Permanent Interim Manager and Mythical Director of Football
Yah, I brought this up yesterday. Not sure it makes sense fecking with a winning formula.
Why was he wearing the super sub vest?
He clashed with PSG
He was wearing a black coat, like PSG’s shirts. Messed it up for the linesman on the opposite side, with all the running Ole did on the touchline.
I think it would take something incredible for him to not get the job now. However I still don't think we should confirm it until the end of season and have everything up to play for for. I don't see any benefit in that right now.
Ole's at his best when the going gets rough, he's been put to the test but its never enough.
I was horrible wrong regarding LvG and Mourinho but I was spot on from day one regarding Moyes. In that context my success rate is lower then 35% post Sir Alex, that’s a total failure from a man who judge competence for a living. Shame on me.
So what’s the secret behind OGS success? This is my take.
From the outside he’s from my perspective a mixture of Zinedine Zidane and Sir Alex. The first thing to come to my mind is that he didn’t have to prove himself against players, staff and media when he arrived at the club. As a club legend, adored by supporters and media, his status was unique and that gave him the perfect platform to work from. Another thing is that he hold himself with dignity and act like a true gentleman. That’s rare. His behavior reminds me of Zidane at Madrid, also a club legend who act non confrontative without losing his authority.
I also notice that he use the same formula as Sir Alex. Believe in your players both on and off the pitch. Yesterday was a perfect example. Action speaks louder then cheap talk, by playing both Chong and Greenwood in the last ten minutes when we where chasing a goal he showed his players that he means business. That’s a unique quality who will help him massively in the future. It was a move that Sir Alex would have been proud of and everybody loved it.
Maybe tactical knowledge is overrated? Hard to tell. Off course a manager needs basic knowledge about the game but maybe man management is more important. In the end it’s all about the players, if they can’t execute any tactical information is useless. I’m not sure about this but maybe when dealing with young superstars it’s more about creating a good atmosphere to get the best results. Just so I don’t create miss understandings, having both harmony and tactical knowledge is off course the optimal solution but the question is what do you prioritize?
All in all I think Ole Gunnar has exceeded all expectations. His results are unreal. The atmosphere he have created inside and outside the club is similar to Sir Alex, and we all know what that can do to the results. ATM I can’t find anything to criticize, and that’s phenomenal by itself, so right know I think Solskjaer and United is a match make in heaven.
Whatever happens is the future he has made me smile again when I watch United. Today I feel confident, and if we lose I can live with it, finally I enjoy the football we play. That’s probably his biggest achievement from my perspective.
So what’s the secret behind OGS success? This is my take.
From the outside he’s from my perspective a mixture of Zinedine Zidane and Sir Alex. The first thing to come to my mind is that he didn’t have to prove himself against players, staff and media when he arrived at the club. As a club legend, adored by supporters and media, his status was unique and that gave him the perfect platform to work from. Another thing is that he hold himself with dignity and act like a true gentleman. That’s rare. His behavior reminds me of Zidane at Madrid, also a club legend who act non confrontative without losing his authority.
I also notice that he use the same formula as Sir Alex. Believe in your players both on and off the pitch. Yesterday was a perfect example. Action speaks louder then cheap talk, by playing both Chong and Greenwood in the last ten minutes when we where chasing a goal he showed his players that he means business. That’s a unique quality who will help him massively in the future. It was a move that Sir Alex would have been proud of and everybody loved it.
Maybe tactical knowledge is overrated? Hard to tell. Off course a manager needs basic knowledge about the game but maybe man management is more important. In the end it’s all about the players, if they can’t execute any tactical information is useless. I’m not sure about this but maybe when dealing with young superstars it’s more about creating a good atmosphere to get the best results. Just so I don’t create miss understandings, having both harmony and tactical knowledge is off course the optimal solution but the question is what do you prioritize?
All in all I think Ole Gunnar has exceeded all expectations. His results are unreal. The atmosphere he have created inside and outside the club is similar to Sir Alex, and we all know what that can do to the results. ATM I can’t find anything to criticize, and that’s phenomenal by itself, so right know I think Solskjaer and United is a match make in heaven.
Whatever happens is the future he has made me smile again when I watch United. Today I feel confident, and if we lose I can live with it, finally I enjoy the football we play. That’s probably his biggest achievement from my perspective.
I would maintain that Mourinho wasn't a mistake. Extending his contract was a mistake as he was always going to blow up in season 3 because that's what he does. But he did good work before that which Ole is reaping the benefits of.
He actually made a joke about the vest & said the ref clocked his plan to ruin PSGs offside trap!
I really like that he said "mountains are there to be climbed" in the build up to this game. Perfect quotation to sum up his time as Manchester United manager so far. To me, he is an absolutely remarkable person; even as a player he seemed like the nicest person. As a manager he is exactly the same, I wish him all the joy in the world & couldn't be prouder for him.
By the way admin - this is my 3rd post of the day all gone & I can't post anymore. Is there any chance of an increase please so I can carry on with the festivities with you guys? It's a great time for us fans at the minute & I'm getting cut off after 3 posts!
I really like that he said "mountains are there to be climbed" in the build up to this game. Perfect quotation to sum up his time as Manchester United manager so far. To me, he is an absolutely remarkable person; even as a player he seemed like the nicest person. As a manager he is exactly the same, I wish him all the joy in the world & couldn't be prouder for him.
By the way admin - this is my 3rd post of the day all gone & I can't post anymore. Is there any chance of an increase please so I can carry on with the festivities with you guys? It's a great time for us fans at the minute & I'm getting cut off after 3 posts!
One thing I have always thought from the beginning of the appointment is that, If things go south like during the first half this season, I believe Ole is humble enough to realise that he is not upto the mark and walk away, rather than dither along like our past three managers.
And it is evident because, almost in every post match he mentions the backroom staff and the players and turning the attention away from him. He reiterates everytime that the success is because of the team effort rather than his "personal" tactics.
The whole world knows that he is going to be offered the job, but I would just wait till the end of season so as to not disturb any rhythm that we have going on now.
And it is evident because, almost in every post match he mentions the backroom staff and the players and turning the attention away from him. He reiterates everytime that the success is because of the team effort rather than his "personal" tactics.
The whole world knows that he is going to be offered the job, but I would just wait till the end of season so as to not disturb any rhythm that we have going on now.
12 months since that miserable display against Sevilla and the subsequent delusional, self-serving tripe about 'football heritage'. What a contrast eh?
For one guy to transform a club of this size in such a short space of time is pretty miraculous. So pleased to have the club back and a genuine custodian of our football heritage at the wheel.
For one guy to transform a club of this size in such a short space of time is pretty miraculous. So pleased to have the club back and a genuine custodian of our football heritage at the wheel.
At this rate he could run for Norweigan prime minister and he'd win it.
@SirAF?
@SirAF?
The Miracle from Molde.
I know he's not actually from Molde.
I know he's not actually from Molde.
You’re yet to ‘face a real test’, before they’ll ok you!
I'm impressed by Ole. Not just the results but how he conducts himself with absolute class. He comes across sharp, focused and thoughtful.
It certainly is not. Ole HAD to get it right after we were being pummelled on our right hand side. The organisation was wrong and he and the staff had to figure out something to keep us in the game. He did what we needed and that impressed me immensely. Another Moment was when Lukaku went down for a knock and he was giving instructions to rashford and a few others like we had forced a basket ball style time out. Tactical knowledge won us that game. Not just grit and determination.
What you need though is like. You said the players belief and determination to die for you. I think that's where Ole trumps Jose. The players stop believing in him and stop listening to his instructions. Jose is as good as it gets tactically but is shite at getting players to believe in him, especially over the course of a couple seasons. You need both , it's yimg and yang. One needs the other equally .
At this rate, either Ed give him the job or blowjob or both whichever comes first.
I have to commend Ole for opening my eyes towards a new tactical approach that I was not that aware of before. Going into the second league, I taught we will play more like Ajax recently or like most top teams that are in need of goal. As in, we press high, control the game, and show more urgency to get a goal.
However, what Ole did last night is something, I rarely see. Which was(or as I coined it), “let PSG shite themselves.” He let psg have control and as if he was Nostradamus, knew that PSG will get complacent and shoot themselves in the foot. 9/10 times this tactics will probably not work, but it did last night. I doubt we will see it again, but I m interested to assess such tactical play if we get into a similar situation in the future.
Ole has amazing luck and most good managers does. So, credit to him for getting us past PSG.
However, what Ole did last night is something, I rarely see. Which was(or as I coined it), “let PSG shite themselves.” He let psg have control and as if he was Nostradamus, knew that PSG will get complacent and shoot themselves in the foot. 9/10 times this tactics will probably not work, but it did last night. I doubt we will see it again, but I m interested to assess such tactical play if we get into a similar situation in the future.
Ole has amazing luck and most good managers does. So, credit to him for getting us past PSG.
The main thing is that Ole believes in the Club, its traditions, history and principles.
I don't really believe this is case. I think he's a very steely character and don't think failures an option. At this point in his tenure, I don't there is any reason to speculate about it. But obviously the results are not going to keep up indefinitely.
There's a conversation in another thread about "pedigree" and the relevance of a club's history to its performance in a game on a given night. How relevant it is when you go back decades is one thing, but clearly when you have a club with a hoodoo in a specific tournament, like PSG have in the CL, there is a self inflicted pressure that you can capitalise on. So the Let PSG Shite Themselves strategy was a good one.
The other club with that kind of relationship with the CL is City. Would be interesting to see if it worked on them.
I was anti Moyes and LVG but pro Mourinho, until it became obvious that he had to go. When Ole was appointed I was pleased because he loves United and I thought he might at least put the smile back on peoples faces, never in my wildest dreams did I see this!
I think it’s a bit more likely for the players to believe in OGS. As a player, he’s done just about everything at the club level. He coached the reserves. He’s tactically bright. He’s managed in the CL. I’m not sure why Cardiff didn’t work out. All I know is, he’s the right manager for us at this point in time.
What a disgusting quotes
even if he believed it why destroy the morale and vibes in pre season? ole is making a mockery of him.I never quite understand that.... isn't there usually literally thousands of people wearing replica kits all around the stadium?
I also believe a reason why Ole went with such tactics was that he didn’t believe we had enough quality in the midfield to press as a unit, control the game and create chances. Had we gone with such approach, it is hard to say whether we would have gone through. That current midfield was not controlling their even if psg allowed that to happen. So, Ole might have taught, let just not concede and capitalize on their errors. It was a good judgement call by Ole, but once again very lucky psg shite themselves.
Why are you on this forum? You’re not a Man Utd fan.
Did Ajax had their whole A team missing too?
Nice retort
. Why do some of the crazies always find a way to quote my post. Those who read my post and have working intelligence knows I am a United fan and my history on this forum and the official one before my departure shows that. Plus, you do know on paper, Ajax team was far less superior than Real Madrid team? Ajax is not a big club that can have multiple decent first eleven.Without a doubt. It's nothing new, though. It's why myself and plenty of others never wanted him here in the first place.. The outcome of his tenure wasn't a surprise at all. The only surprise was that a lot of United fans were still backing him this season!
Yeah, but Ole was running next to/behind the PSG players, straight in front of the linesman’s view, level with the pitch. Very easy to mistake him for a PSG player who is behind the rest of the line, thus messing up the offside trap. The rest of the PSG shirts in the stadium would be at least a level below.
When you have a consistent first eleven with with which you played a certain way all season it is going to be much easier to implement what you say and not just randomly thrown in players (who probably won’t ever play together again) even if those are of slightly higer level. Or this is too complex for you to comprehend?Nice retort
Liverpool went there full strength and got played off the park and you expect our reserve lineup who haven’t played a game together to bring our game to them?
It’s just that they’re (we’re?) not on your level, intellectually. So we see your digs at Ole as a way for you to hold on to the idea that Pochettino is, in all aspects, a superior manager (probably objectively true if we remove the ‘knowing United factor’), and the superior choice as our next permanent manager. When, of course, it’s just that you know better. Don’t let anyone get you down, especially considering Poch just smashed his way through to the next round!Nice retort
Of course it will be much easier to implement the managerial philosophy with having a consistent first eleven, but it doesn’t mean that they are somehow on par to one of the best team in Europe. The eleven we put out was stronger than the Ajax 11 despite us missing 10 players. Ajax chemistry may be a bit higher, but it is not like these United players just played with each other for the first time. They have created understanding in training and none of them seem out of places yesterday beside Bailly and that was corrected early on because for some strange reason Ole taught it would be a great idea to put him as a right back. I expect higher pressing and in intervals in the game we saw that and it was very effective. Their mistake was caused by pressing and with the small moment of time we had control. When we sit backed, we just invited more pressure on ourselves and because of complacency and psg misfiring, we got away with it without those meddling kids from Scooby-Doo.
You have a predetermined narrative you are so sure that is right, which is why you can’t see reality. After this win, I have been praising ole a lot about the victory, which you have purposefully ignored.
He’s made absolute fan girls out of his players. Pogba lukaku rash martial and lingard just love him. Anyone see lingards snap story this morning? He has ole as his phone background
Ole's masterstroke last night was to know exactly the only way we were ever going to get a result and then drilling that into the team.
Push hard early, get a goal and rattle them. Weather the inevitable storm, stay in the game until the last 10 minutes and then pray for chaos. It requires a lot of luck, but that was the only way we were ever getting through and he prepared the team perfectly to execute that plan. He never once gave up on the tie, he knew it was possible and as soon as that first goal went in the players believed too.
Push hard early, get a goal and rattle them. Weather the inevitable storm, stay in the game until the last 10 minutes and then pray for chaos. It requires a lot of luck, but that was the only way we were ever getting through and he prepared the team perfectly to execute that plan. He never once gave up on the tie, he knew it was possible and as soon as that first goal went in the players believed too.