Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4

Is Ole a good appointment?


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Palace is the first real test. Let's see how he copes with injuries to important players.
 
Palace is the first real test. Let's see how he copes with injuries to important players.
I do not agree with you on this one. There will be more injuries, so the real test comes against Arsenal. And then there is another test against PSG without enough registered players. Let's see how he handle that one first. This is starting to remind me of that fella in Monty Python with no arms and legs. ”come back and fight, you coward”..
 
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Honestly, i've stopped trying to weigh up whether or not Ole should get the job. I've just assumed he will and that's the end of it.
he doesn't have to finish top 4. it's a combination of Jose and Ed that will have cost us .in terms of getting the job it's just a bonus if he gets it.
 
Also if we don't sign him how at risk would you say we are of losing him to a smaller PL club eg your Leicester's or Evertons? I don't think he will be going back to Molde no matter what even if we don't appoint him.

0 chance.
 
Palace is the first real test. Let's see how he copes with injuries to important players.

How many 'first real tests' is Ole going to have? First Spurs, then PSG, now Palace? He's reaction to injuries vs Liverpool is no different to vs Palace.
 
Those things can happen to anyone. I'm a big fan of Pochettino, for instance, but he's had games that ran away from him. The manager can't control everything anyway.

He might have had games that ran away from him but i dont think ive seen Spurs have a game where they barely have a shot on target.
 
Tactically he’s adopted very well to the injuries. We beat Chelsea away and should’ve won at home to Liverpool.

I don’t pay much regards to PSG game because that was his first European game as a manager, it’s going to take a lot more time and experience to prepare for the continental sides.

I’m tired of being bullied and made to look clueless vs bottom half trash for 5 years, even if we’re going to get humbled like v PSG once in a while, I can take solace from the fact well dish out some proper beatings ourselves.

I look forward in excitement to watch us in action which is something I can’t say for the last 5 years. If it was up to me, that alone would’ve been enough for him to get the job.
He's managed in the Europa League before
 
He might have had games that ran away from him but i dont think ive seen Spurs have a game where they barely have a shot on target.
They’re also 3/4 years into his management with a world class striker and top quality attackers to go with it.

Let’s see how ole does with a few windows behind him and players that he likes.
 
Ed Woodward must be absolutely loving this. Beyond the good results, he's appointed a risk-free caretaker for (most likely) peanuts who has turned out to be outstanding. Now obviously he must have had something about him to get the job in the first place, but no one would have predicted this.

If he doesn't give Ole the job, it would be more surprising than the thought of giving him the job full time before the Cardiff game. The alternative is only Poch, who we would not only have to buy out of his contract at Spurs (5 year contract signed May 2018), but also have to remortgage OT to finance the compensation Levy would demand. Not to mention he'd command 3x the wages Ole would.

It's such a no brainer to award Ole the managerial position. If he is somehow shit next season, no one will blame United for appointing him in the first place and he's an absolute bargain. Secondly, if we for some reason don't sign him and he goes elsewhere (there won't be a shortage of options - Chelsea or even Spurs, should we end up swapping him for Poch) and he goes on to smash it, United would look like the biggest cnuts of all time.

Ole has shown what he'd bring to the club. Positivity, a much boosted home support, better football on the pitch. Why go with another unknown, when we have a manager that fits the bill already? From a board point of view, the risks of not appointing him - both financial and football - far outweigh the risk of giving him the job full time at the end of the season.

Just like we all knew LVG was fecked no matter what, Ole will blatantly be announced full time manager at the end of the season.
 
Ole's start in his caretaker manager role at United could not have gone much better, he has ticked every box; he has produced a stupendous run of results, he has improved the performance of virtually every player in the squad, he has dealt with adversity, he has brought a smile back to everyone's face and (yesterday despite the injury list) he has incited a dogged team performance and also one of the best receptions from the OT faithful that a United team has had in many a long year!

It will be strange indeed if he doesn't now get the job permanently; however there is one final hurdle for Ole to overcome and that is his first new signing for the club (presumably when he is confirmed in the job!). This will be the pinch-point, because you can be sure as many as half of those singing his praises now, will not agree with his choice. Then doubts set in, then the boot comes in from sections of social media, the public media pick up on it and suddenly a new pressure emerges. I hate to be sounding pessimistic, but we all know this will be the biggest test for Ole, lets hope he retains the support he has now!

It’s not just about who will be signed, but whether or not Ole can implement that player into the squad and actually strengthen the team in a manner that reflects the pricetag.
Sadly that hasn’t happend all that often lately
 
Ed Woodward must be absolutely loving this. Beyond the good results, he's appointed a risk-free caretaker for (most likely) peanuts who has turned out to be outstanding. Now obviously he must have had something about him to get the job in the first place, but no one would have predicted this.

If he doesn't give Ole the job, it would be more surprising than the thought of giving him the job full time before the Cardiff game. The alternative is only Poch, who we would not only have to buy out of his contract at Spurs (5 year contract signed May 2018), but also have to remortgage OT to finance the compensation Levy would demand. Not to mention he'd command 3x the wages Ole would.

It's such a no brainer to award Ole the managerial position. If he is somehow shit next season, no one will blame United for appointing him in the first place and he's an absolute bargain. Secondly, if we for some reason don't sign him and he goes elsewhere (there won't be a shortage of options - Chelsea or even Spurs, should we end up swapping him for Poch) and he goes on to smash it, United would look like the biggest cnuts of all time.

Ole has shown what he'd bring to the club. Positivity, a much boosted home support, better football on the pitch. Why go with another unknown, when we have a manager that fits the bill already? From a board point of view, the risks of not appointing him - both financial and football - far outweigh the risk of giving him the job full time at the end of the season.

Just like we all knew LVG was fecked no matter what, Ole will blatantly be announced full time manager at the end of the season.

It's very unlikely that Ole will have similar success he has at other clubs. He thrives at United because he is a club legend and he's adored by everyone, knows the club inside and out. Chelsea is toxic, any manager with self-respect will think twice before taking up that job and similarly, anyone who has to take over after Poch has big shoes to fill unless he can deliver a trophy right away.
 
What I love about Ole so far is his ability to learn from his mistakes.
Under the cosh vs Spurs? Defended very well against Chelsea
Losing two players to injury at halftime vs PSG? Adapted brilliantly losing 3 players before halftime against Liverpool.
 
I think Ole has won me over. Nobody else could have pulled off this run (except maybe Paul Ince ;)). We had McTominay and Pereira out-fighting Liverpool in midfield, were playing essentially with half a man less, and we've beaten all the London clubs away, and haven't lost in the league since he arrived. Everyone loves him, he's still very young for a manager, is clearly learning and adapting with every game, and knows and loves United inside out. GNev is right. There will be a mutiny if he doesn't get the job. To top it off he is just immensely likable as a person: we've just gone through two abrasive managers, why not appoint a nice man (with a secret hairdryer) for a change?

That being said I do agree that United is probably one of the only clubs Ole could have pulled this off at: he's universally beloved here (so people listen tk what he says - Rashford has spoken already about learning a lot from him) and the squad left to him has some real quality - everyone was just massively underperforming. Obviously he couldn't and would still be unable to do the same at Cardiff.

I think Poch is still a great choice. But Ole looks even better is all.
 
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I think Ole has won me over. Nobody else could have pulled off this run (except maybe Paul Ince ;)). We had McTominay and Pereira out-fighting Liverpool in midfield, were playing essentially with half a man less, and we've beaten all the London clubs away, and haven't lost in the league since he arrived. Everyone loves him, he's still very young for a manager, is clearly learning and adapting with every game, and knows and loves United inside out. GNev is right. There will be a mutiny if he doesn't get the job. To top it off he is just immensely likable as a person: we've just gone through two abrasive managers, why not appoint a nice man (with a secret hairdryer) for a change?

That being said I do agree that United is probably one of the only clubs Ole could have pulled this off at: he's universally beloved here (so people listen tk what he says - Rashford has spoken already about learning a lot from him) and the squad left to him has some real quality - everyone was just massively underperforming. Obviously he couldn't and would still be unable to do the same at Cardiff.

I think Poch is still a great choice. But Ole looks even better is all.
Don’t forget that nice young lady that shows up at pressers. She’s a bonus too.

Give it to Ole. He’s proved he’s capable.
 
People are very protective of Ole and can't handle any criticism being thrown his way.

He's done an incredible job but he's (understandably) still got a lot to learn and like every other manager in the league, will make mistakes. He did so today and will likely learn from it.

Its not as if this has never happened. A seasoned manager like Mourinho brought in fellaini(I don't remember who it was against) who stayed on for even less than jesse abd had to be subbed out immediately.

Some of the statements make it sound like its an OGS specific rookie mistake that a seasoned manager wouldn't make. It was a mistake we should admit it was. But lets not make this the stick we beat him with
 
What I love about Ole so far is his ability to learn from his mistakes.
Under the cosh vs Spurs? Defended very well against Chelsea
Losing two players to injury at halftime vs PSG? Adapted brilliantly losing 3 players before halftime against Liverpool.

Exactemudo, this is what has impressed me the most so far.

Add to that ending the experiment of mata at RW and putting him central when he learnt it wasn't working out.
 
Birthday boy today:)
 
He might have had games that ran away from him but i dont think ive seen Spurs have a game where they barely have a shot on target.

Aug 2014: Spurs 0-3 Liverpool (Shots on target 1)
March 2015: ManUtd 3-0 Spurs (shots on target 1)
Dec 2017: City 4-1 Spurs (Shots on target 2)
Feb 2017: Liverpool 2-0 Spurs (Shots on target 2)
Sep 2018: Watford 2-1 Spurs (Shots on target 2)
Oct 2018: Spurs 0-1 City (Shots on target 1)
Jan 2019: Chelsea 2-1 Spurs (Shots on target 1)
 
Aug 2014: Spurs 0-3 Liverpool (Shots on target 1)
March 2015: ManUtd 3-0 Spurs (shots on target 1)
Dec 2017: City 4-1 Spurs (Shots on target 2)
Feb 2017: Liverpool 2-0 Spurs (Shots on target 2)
Sep 2018: Watford 2-1 Spurs (Shots on target 2)
Oct 2018: Spurs 0-1 City (Shots on target 1)
Jan 2019: Chelsea 2-1 Spurs (Shots on target 1)

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The Poch fanboys need to feck off already, he is not coming here, and I doubt he is leaving Spurs at all. He is comfortable at Spurs where he has great job security, and no expectations apart from top 4, from both fans and owners. As long as that is achieved, he is safe ansd secure in his job.
 
I just love this man. He should get the job since he has done a fantastic job. A superb job. No one expected us to compete for top four at this point three months earlier.

My passion for Man United recovers after years of disillusionment. Because of him.
 
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The Poch fanboys need to feck off already, he is not coming here, and I doubt he is leaving Spurs at all. He is comfortable at Spurs where he has great job security, and no expectations apart from top 4, from both fans and owners. As long as that is achieved, he is safe ansd secure in his job.

Poch is a very good manager but few ManUtd fans should calm down. Playing down Ole with nonsense excuses is just silly.
 
Don’t forget Arsenal and Chelsea.

I’ve said it before, if he can get top four in this table he should get the job. Doing pretty good so far..

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Just to give some perspective, 2.6 points per game gets you to 98.8, which would have still seen us fall short last season! Standard nowadays is incredible. Looked like the gulf between top of the league and bottom was going to be eroded with new PL money, but actually it just got bigger.
 
How many 'first real tests' is Ole going to have? First Spurs, then PSG, now Palace? He's reaction to injuries vs Liverpool is no different to vs Palace.

The first and last test is the rest of the season. Simple as that. Not single games or any other single parameter. All these parameters together come down to the decision the board will make at the end of the season. How he gathered a coaching team, how he turned it around, how he handled certain games, injuries, media, reaching top-4, moral, staff, vision etc.
 
I’m backing him 100% for the full job now, as he’s shown more than enough to be a perfect fit. His man management, tactical ability, press conferences and playing style is just what we’ve been missing all those years.
My only slight concern is how he will handle the transfer windows, as I believe that’s been a little hit and miss at both Cardiff and at Molde. It’s obviously gonna be different here though, where he can pick players from the top shelf, and probably we’ll see a DoF coming in as well.
Exciting times!

That's the only test he has yet to pass. However, it's not like Moyes, LVG or Jose got it right either. Hopefully this is where our rumored DOF comes into play.

I do think it's gonna be easier to pick attackers given Ole's style. Sancho is the clear option on the right, which will instantly upgrade us.

I just hope Ole doesn't get attached to the current crop and believe he could win a title with them because he can't. Not even St. Pep could improve some of our lot.
 
Something else to consider is that Poch will cost £50m and Ole is free (well maybe a couple of million to Molde). That £50m can be used to buy half a Sancho.
I like the way he got Fellaini out pretty quietly and even with a way bigger budget than he's ever been used to previously I think he'll target the right kind of players in the summer, should he get the job. Judging by the way we've tried to play thus far, there is a certain type of player that fits that mold.
I think we've already decided to give him the job and will just delay that announcement until the end of the season. This way, he can plan any summer targets now, so we can hit the ground running transfer wise as soon as the window opens.
If we end up missing out on top4 by a few points, I don't think that will count against him given the position we were in when he arrived.
 
Also if we don't sign him how at risk would you say we are of losing him to a smaller PL club eg your Leicester's or Evertons? I don't think he will be going back to Molde no matter what even if we don't appoint him.
Didn’t he say that the only club he would leave Molde for is Manchester United, since his kids do not want to move from their home

So basically, he loves Manchester United a lot
 
I think we should sign him regardless of how the season pans out. He has proven that he is the right man - all things considered.

I don't think we should do it yet though. I see no real upside in changing the current set-up with him as an interim manager at this stage. Give him the job immediately after the last game against Cardiff or when top 4 is secured (whichever is earlier).
 
I think every thing he has done footballwise post playing career has to do with the prospect of one day getting the opportunity to manage United!

Now here he is, and he’s doing a good job!
 
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If we're gonna sign him, wouldn't Molde want to start looking for a replacement soon? Their season starts in a little while, and I can imagine they would want a replacement in as fast a possible....
 
If we're gonna sign him, wouldn't Molde want to start looking for a replacement soon? Their season starts in a little while, and I can imagine they would want a replacement in as fast a possible....

Erling Moe is the current interim, he has been around their coaching setup for a long time. I think they'll just stick with him and see how it goes.