Just give him the contract, 11 wins and only 1 defeat out of 14 games played, his big game record is 3W 1D 1L against Spur, Arsenal, Chelsea, PSG and Liverpool (top 5 team in England and biggest spender in the world). Really couldn't expect anyone doing it any better.
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4
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The pregame and first half injuries were a serious blow yesterday. Ole adapted, completely nullified Liverpool and, in the end, the few key chances were all ours.
I believe all the talk of 'plan b' and tactical ability is now null and void.
Something would have to go seriously wrong to deny Solskjaer the job now.
I believe all the talk of 'plan b' and tactical ability is now null and void.
Something would have to go seriously wrong to deny Solskjaer the job now.
Just because something is generally agreed upon does not mean there is a hivemind cult mentality. We have been in a dire state for years now, so yes people might get a bit carried away when we are looking so positive, but i dont think anyone thinks he is faultless and some of the comments are just hyperbole for the sake of it.
I agree. We are mostly winning and putting up good performances. Being positive about that is pretty normal. And nobody is throwing away all logic. But in reality who else do we bring in who philosophy wise can take this team forwards? Ole at least understands the resources he has presently which cannot be guaranteed with any other manager. Thats the tricky part.
He's improved every single aspect of the team.
For all the talk about negative jose and how his teams are hard to beat we're now far better defensively than we were under the him.
Despite his team falling apart around him yesterday he did not switch to a negative approach and continued to bring on attacking players to replace those going off.
If I'm the club now all I'm looking for is for him to outline the plan for next season. Tell me where we need to strengthen, identify players in and out, give me a plan for the next wave of kids coming through.
The job is his already, you simply cannot say anyone deserves it more at this point
For all the talk about negative jose and how his teams are hard to beat we're now far better defensively than we were under the him.
Despite his team falling apart around him yesterday he did not switch to a negative approach and continued to bring on attacking players to replace those going off.
If I'm the club now all I'm looking for is for him to outline the plan for next season. Tell me where we need to strengthen, identify players in and out, give me a plan for the next wave of kids coming through.
The job is his already, you simply cannot say anyone deserves it more at this point
You love the guy but will find anything to criticize him for.
Players earned that draw? Well of course, both the players and the manager.
Phelan deserves the credit for defensive performances? And you based that on what exactly?
Ok if you think he shouldn't be our manager even though he has been great do far but some of the stuff you wrote there is a bit silly.
I’m backing him 100% for the full job now, as he’s shown more than enough to be a perfect fit. His man management, tactical ability, press conferences and playing style is just what we’ve been missing all those years.
My only slight concern is how he will handle the transfer windows, as I believe that’s been a little hit and miss at both Cardiff and at Molde. It’s obviously gonna be different here though, where he can pick players from the top shelf, and probably we’ll see a DoF coming in as well.
Exciting times!
My only slight concern is how he will handle the transfer windows, as I believe that’s been a little hit and miss at both Cardiff and at Molde. It’s obviously gonna be different here though, where he can pick players from the top shelf, and probably we’ll see a DoF coming in as well.
Exciting times!
Why do you even bother sharing your opinions on the game when you only saw the half of it? This forum is full of people which have seen the whole game, sharing their views. Why do you think we want to discuss your opinion not having seen the full game?
Certainly feels like we have OUR Manchester United back... that was a brilliant performance all things considered.
The decision to bring on Lingard has been debated but the fact is that no changes today were really a choice... and for those saying that Sanchez should have come on instead, well he was getting ready to come on... for Rashford. He was actually the first one to start warming up just after Rashford got injured except that was quickly overtaken by events.
To stop a full strength Liverpool side like that, and actually be the better time overall, amazing!
The decision to bring on Lingard has been debated but the fact is that no changes today were really a choice... and for those saying that Sanchez should have come on instead, well he was getting ready to come on... for Rashford. He was actually the first one to start warming up just after Rashford got injured except that was quickly overtaken by events.
To stop a full strength Liverpool side like that, and actually be the better time overall, amazing!
100% correct.
Taht too is 100% correct. Luke Shaw looked like the best LB in the world yesterday ...in my opinion anyway. He didn't get forward as much as I'd have liked but he kept that side of the pitch safe at all times. Awesome Job. Lindelof and Smalling looked really comfortable together against a top side. This should be our mainstay back line from now on. RB needs addressing though. Ashley does a respectable job but respectable isn't quite good enough.
This is now why I am 1000000% behind Ole. Although I wasn't in agreement with him gambling with Jesse I did notice the way Ole still felt the game was winnable and didn't just try to 'not lose'. Great to see.
100% correct. There is NO ONE i would rather see get the job now, I don't think ANYONE in the world of football management could have done any better than Ole has so far. I just like the look of our whole coaching set up now, there even seems to be a 'balance' to our staff!
Yep, that primarily. We’ve been average at home all season and that hasn’t really changed under Ole. W4 D2 L1 isn’t great. It feels very different though. I don’t remember a match at home in the last three years where there has been more goodwill from the crowd to go and win. Fans wanted to play their role in a victory, which unfortunately never looked likely.
It is worth reminding ourselves that we had such a shitty first half of the season that CL qualification is still odds against again, and we’ve got two tough cup ties to come. This is actually a really big week for us. Spurs play both Arsenal and Chelsea, so it could either become four teams competing for 3rd, or we drop points and it becomes difficult once again.
We comfortably had the better chances, and even had the ball in the net. We looked far more likely to win it than they did.
C'mon mate. It was two crap performances cancelling each other out. We got the ball in the net from an offside assist which prompted a flukey own goal. I don't think either side would have scored more than once if we were still playing now.
We were without Herrera, Matic, Lingaard and Martial, thats 4/11 of his prefered players injured, and Rashford barely being able to run and Mata getting injured as well. Being forced to make 3 subs before HT is a disaster in most games, and even more so when you are playing the league leaders. Despite all their possession Liverpool basically created nothing outside of set pieces and we could easily have won had Lingaard chipped instead of trying to round the keeper or Smalling finishing his run on that cross from Lukaku
Had it been opposite and we were nearly full strength vs a injury ridden Pool that made 3 forced subs before HT then it would be slightly disappointing, but if you call that "pathetic" you cant have watched us at all the last 6 years
I get what you are saying.
And i have watched a lot of us and it was just as infuriating and pathetic as some of the dross served up under Lvg and Mourinho.
That being said hes doing a very good job but i wont get carried away yet because hes doing the job that he should be able to do with players like Pogba,Martial,De gea and Rashford who are all still good players and all managed to help us get to second last year.
I probably think we should give him the job because weve tried the Fergie model,the elite manager model which have both failed so lets see what the "in house" Barcelona model achieves but it comes with risks.
Hes already shown what the risks are.
Psg,second half vs spuds etc
Don’t they? Allison and Arrizabalaga were both big money transfers, and the latter is quite shite actually (the former is of course a good player). Considering quality differential, certainly de Gea would command a MUCH higher fee than both of them
That's a bit of a myopic analysis which doesn't take into account that we started without our first choice wingers who are crucial to our attack and our first choice CDM. To then compound the issue further, our first choice forward was basically playing on one leg for 80 minutes, our replacement #10 goes, who's replaced by a half-fit Lingard who subsequently goes down later, and to top it all off, our most important midfielder goes and is replaced by a comparative novice.
To get anywhere near Liverpool yesterday was a testament to the performance levels of the guys that were on the pitch, and most especially the leaders in the squad like Pogba, Rashford (can't believe I'm saying his name, but he genuinely is one right now), Lindelof, Shaw, and Smalling; as well as admirable performances from the likes of Pereira and McTominay who were thrown right in to the deep end.
But to actually be the stronger of the two teams during the second half, and actually end the game being slightly disappointed that we couldn't get the winner, it speaks volumes.
I wonder is he too attached to some of our players to cut them lose or replace them? Namely Lingard.
I do however feel he knows how badly need a RWer and it being the United way, I'd be very surprised if he didn't try sign Sancho.
Ole's start in his caretaker manager role at United could not have gone much better, he has ticked every box; he has produced a stupendous run of results, he has improved the performance of virtually every player in the squad, he has dealt with adversity, he has brought a smile back to everyone's face and (yesterday despite the injury list) he has incited a dogged team performance and also one of the best receptions from the OT faithful that a United team has had in many a long year!
It will be strange indeed if he doesn't now get the job permanently; however there is one final hurdle for Ole to overcome and that is his first new signing for the club (presumably when he is confirmed in the job!). This will be the pinch-point, because you can be sure as many as half of those singing his praises now, will not agree with his choice. Then doubts set in, then the boot comes in from sections of social media, the public media pick up on it and suddenly a new pressure emerges. I hate to be sounding pessimistic, but we all know this will be the biggest test for Ole, lets hope he retains the support he has now!
It will be strange indeed if he doesn't now get the job permanently; however there is one final hurdle for Ole to overcome and that is his first new signing for the club (presumably when he is confirmed in the job!). This will be the pinch-point, because you can be sure as many as half of those singing his praises now, will not agree with his choice. Then doubts set in, then the boot comes in from sections of social media, the public media pick up on it and suddenly a new pressure emerges. I hate to be sounding pessimistic, but we all know this will be the biggest test for Ole, lets hope he retains the support he has now!
The club's board and chief executive need to get their act together and get a quality, experienced DoF in place and give Ole a 3 year contract so the summer transfer plans can be ready by the start of the summer transfer window. Another summer like 2013 would seriously stall the momentum of Ole's bright start imo.
Klopp respected Ole too much that he got shit scared and opted for Milner for TAA. This itself is a testament for our manager.
Agreed. I think Ole should get the job, and we should start planning for the summer transfers now.
We can't afford another summer like 2018.
He’s right though. We did have the better chances. Offside OG aside there was the marginally offside header Pogba should have scored, the cross which just evaded Smalling at the far post and Lingard’s golden opportunity.
Liverpool created, well, nothing.
Tactically he’s adopted very well to the injuries. We beat Chelsea away and should’ve won at home to Liverpool.
I don’t pay much regards to PSG game because that was his first European game as a manager, it’s going to take a lot more time and experience to prepare for the continental sides.
I’m tired of being bullied and made to look clueless vs bottom half trash for 5 years, even if we’re going to get humbled like v PSG once in a while, I can take solace from the fact well dish out some proper beatings ourselves.
I look forward in excitement to watch us in action which is something I can’t say for the last 5 years. If it was up to me, that alone would’ve been enough for him to get the job.
I don’t pay much regards to PSG game because that was his first European game as a manager, it’s going to take a lot more time and experience to prepare for the continental sides.
I’m tired of being bullied and made to look clueless vs bottom half trash for 5 years, even if we’re going to get humbled like v PSG once in a while, I can take solace from the fact well dish out some proper beatings ourselves.
I look forward in excitement to watch us in action which is something I can’t say for the last 5 years. If it was up to me, that alone would’ve been enough for him to get the job.
It's supposed to be hit and miss. You're talking calculated risks.
Anyway, Molde under Solskjaer won the league 3 times in his first 4 seasons (11, 12, 14) after placing 11th before his arrival at the club. Left for Cardiff. Big mistake, the owner is insane. Back to Molde, achieving 5th, 2nd & 2nd place finishes. They've performed very well under OGS.
In addition to just results, they've bought for 6.89m while selling for 29.5m.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/molde-fk/alletransfers/verein/687
So while you might be right that it's been a bit hit & miss, I don't know, but that's still to be expected. Net results are outstanding for a club who'd never won the league prior to OGS.
For the record I have absolutely nothing against Mike P. He obviously has a fantastic CV as a number two and that can't be questioned. I am, however, mindful of the fact that his previous stint here was alongside arguably the greatest manager of all time. With all due respect, Ole isn't (I really hope he does but that's probably unlikely to be fair) and my point is about giving him the best possible chance to succeed. If you believe Mike is the best man for the job then I sincerely hope you are right.
Are you saying that Phelan is not an astute number two because Fergie was the best manager of all time? I don't get your logic.
Those things can happen to anyone. I'm a big fan of Pochettino, for instance, but he's had games that ran away from him. The manager can't control everything anyway.
Nice.
Neville's probably right. Most United supporters would be up in arms if Ole is not appointed.
In fairness - his transfer record at Molde has been good. Hovland, Linnes, Berget, Nyland, Hussain, Elyounossi, Gulbrandsen, Singh, Forren - from his first spell at Molde. Sold the majority of these players to good foreign clubs at huge profits.
I can imagine the directors and people high up in the club must love dealing with Ole after Jose he says all the right things, doesn't rock the boat etc.
I still think Mike Phelan is very important as well if we do offer it to Ole I think its important we get him as well.
I think the only negative for Ole yesterday was the Jesse sub however if Jesse says he feels fine to play you have to some extent trust him, had we not had all those injuries I doubt we would have used him until much later but it did cause another sub to have to be made as Jesse then had to go off as well for Sanchez who should perhaps have been put on first. It left us at massive risk had someone like De Gea got injured
However I was most impressed with the fact Ole could have had an excuse to sit back and not even try for the win in the second half, however you could tell he had changed things up and we were trying for the win, we were much closer to winning than Liverpool.
For all Mourinho's bus parking we are also looking better defensively
Also didn't Jose moan about players not attempting to play through pain and saying they arent fit to play when he felt they could have done? Yet Rashford played for most of the game with an injury.
The atmosphere was fantastic as well, another thing that has come with Ole's arrival, we are playing like Manchester United again so seeing that will encourage the fans out of their seats, seeing the players put the effort in like against Chelsea and yesterday, yes you could argue no matter what people should be behind the team but Jose's football was hardly exciting so harder to get enthusiastic over.
Im now 90 probably even 95 percent in favour of giving it to Ole, maybe on a 2 year contract you know he wont run off the minute Madrid come calling so are safe giving him a slightly shorter contract, hes young so all being well can be our manager for several years to come. The 5 percent I'm not sure is to do with things we will probably never know eg who does he want to sign and more importantly who does he see as needing to be moved on- can he see as fans can see there is a lot of deadwood that needs dealing with.
I still think Mike Phelan is very important as well if we do offer it to Ole I think its important we get him as well.
I think the only negative for Ole yesterday was the Jesse sub however if Jesse says he feels fine to play you have to some extent trust him, had we not had all those injuries I doubt we would have used him until much later but it did cause another sub to have to be made as Jesse then had to go off as well for Sanchez who should perhaps have been put on first. It left us at massive risk had someone like De Gea got injured
However I was most impressed with the fact Ole could have had an excuse to sit back and not even try for the win in the second half, however you could tell he had changed things up and we were trying for the win, we were much closer to winning than Liverpool.
For all Mourinho's bus parking we are also looking better defensively
Also didn't Jose moan about players not attempting to play through pain and saying they arent fit to play when he felt they could have done? Yet Rashford played for most of the game with an injury.
The atmosphere was fantastic as well, another thing that has come with Ole's arrival, we are playing like Manchester United again so seeing that will encourage the fans out of their seats, seeing the players put the effort in like against Chelsea and yesterday, yes you could argue no matter what people should be behind the team but Jose's football was hardly exciting so harder to get enthusiastic over.
Im now 90 probably even 95 percent in favour of giving it to Ole, maybe on a 2 year contract you know he wont run off the minute Madrid come calling so are safe giving him a slightly shorter contract, hes young so all being well can be our manager for several years to come. The 5 percent I'm not sure is to do with things we will probably never know eg who does he want to sign and more importantly who does he see as needing to be moved on- can he see as fans can see there is a lot of deadwood that needs dealing with.
Also if we don't sign him how at risk would you say we are of losing him to a smaller PL club eg your Leicester's or Evertons? I don't think he will be going back to Molde no matter what even if we don't appoint him.
Every game is more experience for him, I’m loving this team right now. He’s got to stay but it might just depend on top four.
First away game without a goal. City held them at home to nil.
To be fair, he was left with too many points to make-up. It's only due to an incredible turnaround and a Premiership winning run that has kindled our hopes of a top 4 finish. Most of us had written off the season after the Liverpool loss. It would be very unfair to judge Ole on attaining a top 4 place.
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Nice.
Love this. Ole isn't even tall and he's still mugging off Harington the little shorty.
I know personally I'll be fed up if we let him go and appoint a Spurs manager.
This is the best it's been since Ferguson retired.
Honestly, i've stopped trying to weigh up whether or not Ole should get the job. I've just assumed he will and that's the end of it.