Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4

Is Ole a good appointment?

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I wish the board had backed Ole with a couple of signings in January. Think our lack of depth could end up costing us this season.

Fair play to Ole and the lads for digging deep there, but it was a struggle.
 
Ridiculous to expect an interim to come in and out master the likes of PSG.

For me it's how we steer through the smaller clubs as i want to see that these last two games aren't a trend but outliers. The big games will decide a lot but if we keep playing poorly against minnows it matters little.
 
The players looked poor and lethargic today rather than anything Ole related.

Very little you could have set up differently for this away game to Leicester with the squad we have.

Should have had two very early goals from Rashford rather than one and then it’s a very different game.
 
Tarrou said:
I wish the board had backed Ole with a couple of signings in January. Think our lack of depth could end up costing us this season.

Fair play to Ole and the lads for digging deep there, but it was a struggle.
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I think backing him January would have given the wrong impression, as in we'd made our mind up already on who the new manager would be. Also, who's available? I'm pretty sure we use January to sound out summer recruitments and secure any youth players who are available.
 
Loving our time with him. Made me love football again. Genuinely can’t wait for the next game, and it’s been years since I said that and meant it.

If he keeps it up, he has to get the job, no matter what happens against psg.
 
Tarrou said:
I wish the board had backed Ole with a couple of signings in January. Think our lack of depth could end up costing us this season.

Fair play to Ole and the lads for digging deep there, but it was a struggle.
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We have depth. Trouble is that the depth ain't very good, especially on the RW and in midfield.

- Mata or Lingard as RWs. Not really much of a choice. Maybe Ole should try Sanchez on the right just to see if something sticks.

- Our midfield of Pogba-Matic-Herrera cannot be rested as Pereira is inadequate and Fred also appears to be so based on how sparingly Ole has used him. This is a real problem. One injury to either of those 3 and we will be up against it. The decision to let Fellaini leave midseason seems questionable.

But as you said, we have what it takes to drag ourselves over the line. The problem is so do Chelsea if Higuain really gets going in this league.
 
What I find really strange is that the same people who week in and week out slaughtered players like Young, Jones, Bailly, Fred, Smalling, Matic, Sanchez, Lukaku and Mata as not good enough - are the same people who expect us to suddenly be as good as Liverpool, City and Tottenham - when these are the players that are at our disposal

It's a bloody miracle that Solskjaer has done what he has done - and simply by being anywhere near top-4 should give him the job.
 
GailSpaceWynand said:
What had Pep or Zidane won before ? Also, what has Poch actually won? I'm not saying Ole should be given the job yet. Give him time - what he has done with what he has is tremendous. Also, I can show you dozens (if not more) matches where Spurs have lost to lesser teams - doesn't prove Poch is not a good manager - over analyzing each result and comparing to established teams will do us more harm than good.
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It not only about what these managers have won. If that mattered Mourinho would be a contender to replace Ole again :lol:. It is about how these managers conduct themselves and how their players respond and perform to them, amongst other factors. I m giving him a lot of time that is why I haven’t decided yet on whether he should be United next manager or not.
 
Amadaeus said:
I m not arguing about that. I just want to see that United will not be pushed over when we play against Europe elite team like we were against Spurs who aren’t even among those top team.
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We wasn't pushed over by Spurs for starters. We had the better of the play for 60 minutes.
secondly all the matches are tests and playing small teams are no less of a challenge than big teams. Infact we have beaten teams like Juventus already and people were not convinced with our season so why would PSG win be the deciding factor? It makes no sense.
 
Amadaeus said:
It not only about what these managers have won. If that mattered Mourinho would be a contender to replace Ole again :lol:. It is about how these managers conduct themselves and how their players respond and perform to them, amongst other factors. I m giving him a lot of time that is why I haven’t decided yet on whether he should be United next manager or not.
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First you said, a win over PSG shouldn't be seen as a end-all since they are weak and we must compare ourselves to Europe's elite. Then you say it doesn't matter what they win but how they conduct themselves (why is this a key req. again?) and how the players responds - which they have done. I don't get it.
 
GailSpaceWynand said:
First you said, a win over PSG shouldn't be seen as a end-all since they are weak and we must compare ourselves to Europe's elite. Then you say it doesn't matter what they win but how they conduct themselves (why is this a key req. again?) and how the players responds - which they have done. I don't get it.
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Just look at who he supports and you'll save your time.

No need to for a thank you.
 
Bobcat said:
Ole has won far more silverware than Poch as a manager. Even considering that, our last two managers had a pretty sizable trophy cabinets and we all know how that went. Top managers dont grow on trees and everyone has to start somewhere.

We tried hiring outside "top managers" a couple of times now, maybe its time to try something different?
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Might be right and the romantic part of me thinks it's such a great story and like having a player from our academy playing upfront, it's what separates us from those who just through money at it. That's said, the less optimistic of me thinks this is such a 'false' set of circumstances. Reminds me of going on holiday with an ex as friends. Things look so much better with the sun, no pressure and without the pressure that comes with the reality and expectation of being in a relationship. Return back to England and you remember why it finished.

If Ole was that good, why has he never been in the picture. It's not like he's pulled up trees somewhere elsewhere? I know I'll need a fire suit for even questioning it at mo but it's just my opinion.
 
Litch said:
Might be right and the romantic part of me thinks it's such a great story and like having a player from our academy playing upfront, it's what separates us from those who just through money at it. That's said, the less optimistic of me thinks this is such a 'false' set of circumstances. Reminds me of going on holiday with an ex as friends. Things look so much better with the sun, no pressure and without the pressure that comes with the reality and expectation of being in a relationship. Return back to England and you remember why it finished.

If Ole was that good, why has he never been in the picture. It's not like he's pulled up trees somewhere elsewhere? I know I'll need a fire suit for even questioning it at mo but it's just my opinion.
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I would argue that the very fact he was appointed caretaker is proof that he was in the picture at some level
 
abdo99 said:
We wasn't pushed over by Spurs for starters. We had the better of the play for 60 minutes.
secondly all the matches are tests and playing small teams are no less of a challenge than big teams. Infact we have beaten teams like Juventus already and people were not convinced with our season so why would PSG win be the deciding factor? It makes no sense.
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This argument has happened before. My response will be similar to what I stated before.

GailSpaceWynand said:
First you said, a win over PSG shouldn't be seen as a end-all since they are weak and we must compare ourselves to Europe's elite. Then you say it doesn't matter what they win but how they conduct themselves (why is this a key req. again?) and how the players responds - which they have done. I don't get it.
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Never said they were weak. Just that their best player is not playing and it should not be the key deciding factor towards Ole appointment. It is a key requirement because using Mourinho as an example — he has won a lot, but his man management ability was overlooked and apparently still is, which is one reason towards our players dissatisfaction during his tenure here.
 
We need an rvn said:
The weird thing about this whole Ole discussion is that we have a manager who's won 9 out of 10 games - what is not to like as there's no way Poch will repeat this and all of a sudden after x games he'll be getting questions about why can't he repeat what Ole has done with the same players. No one has done this before and yet so many of us doubt the appointment after what's happened since Fergie left - myself included.
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Because all of this is based on a set of circumstances which no one could have predicted. Ole has been nothing less than outstanding but this is very different when there is nothing to lose than everything to lose at the start of the season. It's interesting how the closer the top 4 becomes a reality, how he responds to this. It's part of the audition he and others never thought would have been possible. Like said elsewhere, Feb will indicate whether he can do it as the pressure has ramped up a good few notches.
 
Shez said:
I would argue that the very fact he was appointed caretaker is proof that he was in the picture at some level
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Sorry I don't believe he was anything other than an holding position when appointed.
 
I think the Fulham away is going to be very important in terms of Ole rotating and getting the 3 points (and maybe getting the best from his Squad players). Grinding out, doesn't matter. That is going to be his last chance to do that. After that every match is going to be a strong motivation for everybody involved and a positive run of results could prove as a boost for the players and the manager for the rest of the season. As far as for Poch goes he is a trophyless manager no more (or less) qualfied for this job than Moyes.
 
Litch said:
Might be right and the romantic part of me thinks it's such a great story and like having a player from our academy playing upfront, it's what separates us from those who just through money at it. That's said, the less optimistic of me thinks this is such a 'false' set of circumstances. Reminds me of going on holiday with an ex as friends. Things look so much better with the sun, no pressure and without the pressure that comes with the reality and expectation of being in a relationship. Return back to England and you remember why it finished.

If Ole was that good, why has he never been in the picture. It's not like he's pulled up trees somewhere elsewhere? I know I'll need a fire suit for even questioning it at mo but it's just my opinion.
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He won the league twice in Norway with a club that has never won it before he came there and its not likes hes been a manager for a very long time. Poch has done very well at Tottenham, and has done some excellent bargain transfers, but hes also been very fortunate in having the best striker in the league and one of the best young midfielders come through the academy in that period. Poch has assembled a very good squad on a small budget, no doubt about that, but he has never won anything either. In 2015/16 all the other top clubs were busy shitting themselves and the league was there for the taking...and then Leichester won it.

Poch is doing very well at Tottenham, Ole is (right now) doing very well here. If we continue in similar fashion, why would we replace Ole? Any appointment has an element of risk to it and now we have the luxury of giving a potential manager a trial run before we make a permanent appointment. The last thing i want to say is that Ole fecking loves this club like his own children and will never leave us for another club unless for personal matters. If we hire Poch and Real Madrid or Barcelona come knocking? Im pretty sure he would leave
 
Give him a couple of quality fullbacks and a good partner for Lindelöf and we have a side capable of contending on all fronts.
 
They look like Marv and Harry from Home Alone :lol:
 
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We used to look at the Chelsea fixture with a hope to reduce the gap. Now, it will present a chance to increase it. How insane is that
 
How Ole cannot get the job is beyond all logic. (As long as Mick stays too, of course)

They have won 9 out of 10 games.

Pochettino or any other manager who has never won anything couldn't have done any better.
 
We still have a fundamentally flawed squad and Ole hasn't got a single player of his own choosing

If he does get the job and adds 3 of 4 players that suit his vision for the team (even if we do get a DOF the manager should always have a say over the players he works with) it will be fascinating to watch how things progress
 
kafta said:
Loving our time with him. Made me love football again. Genuinely can’t wait for the next game, and it’s been years since I said that and meant it.

If he keeps it up, he has to get the job, no matter what happens against psg.
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Yup. For the first time after fergue I haven’t missed a game live, nor turned off the tv before the final whistle
 
PSG is a bonus. If we win that great, if not, it's not the end of the world.

Top 4 finish and an Fa Cup should get him the job. Finish outside the top 4 and it's up for debate
 
Sarri needs a season to implement his Sarri Ball that has won nothing ever after getting slapped by Bournemouth. Ole (plus Phelan, Carrick and Mckenna) after an unconvincing win against Leicester is not all that.

We are the in-form team at the moment, even when we play shite we win, when we play well we win comfortably. Most games we play well. He's doing almost everything right.
 
dpansheth said:
Yup. For the first time after fergue I haven’t missed a game live, nor turned off the tv before the final whistle
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Same here, For the last season or two United games ceased to be must see TV for me and now its back, we are still a work in progress but definitely fun to watch again. If we use the summer transfer window wisely we'll be challenging for titles next season. I hope the board decides to stick with Ole
 
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