We didn't "buy him", he's on loan. At least get your facts straight before you try to blow smoke up our arses with your nutty theories. Let's be clear: I think Ole is a horrible manager and I think that he must have been born with a horseshoe or a 4 leaf clover in his arse in order to be anywhere near the United job, but these conspiracy theories are fecking sickening and slanderous. Furthermore, as an Ole-out person, you are making the rest of us look as foolish as some of the extreme Ole-in people with this nonsense. I think Ole is out of his depth but I have never questioned his integrity or commitment to Manchester United Football Club; he obviously loves the club and his love is reciprocated by the fans as is evident in the threads on this forum. I'm a firm believer in free speech but I'm actually very surprised that this thread hasn't been shut down as we're starting to tread in some very murky waters here.
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and Jim Solbakken
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Was reading about the Babacar Sarr rape allegations in Norway. This Solbakken guy seems to be an absolut shitbag.
Good work!
Lot's of aspersions being casted here. Vague conspiracy theories against our own manager? Whether you're Ole in or out, we don't need this.
So with all the conspiracy, only the Ighalo signing is suspicious, right? But 1/we only sign him on loan, and he took a pay cut to play for us 2/he can be a successful signing - so what's the problem here?
This looks bad on club's new sophisticated software, much improved scouting network and the man who oversees everything, not on Ole.
Of course you will use connections you know (past and present). All managers who are so heavily involved in a recruitment process do the same.
It's a really odd position to change your mind when you have something explained to you exactly WHY its bogus. It was bogus before but now that you know why its bogus, it's suddenly plausible?
In that case, my apologies for taking the time to respond to this thread.
Is this thread legit? First I'm hearing of it as I seen it on RedIssue's Twitter account.
Fecking hell.. I’m taking some time off this place. I’m sure there is a village out there missing a lot of idiots.. Either way, that was nicely put!
The "hope this helps" guy is the best possible example of how much of a vile disaster can Twitter actually be.
Well reading further about on Twitter Jonas guy seems to be corroborating whatever is said in that thread. I agree, the guy is a bit OTT but if the story is true then it's pretty fecking damning.
There was a Reddit thread about this and as far as I can tell, the majority of the things OGS apparently should be responsible for happened while he was already at United. My main gripe is with the fact that the cnut presents something as serious as assistance in avoiding rape allegations in a series of tweets with a fecking catchphras,e exclusively because he doesn't like the way one of the alleged culprits has managed his favourite football club. It's embarrassing.
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Looks like someone has an agenda here..
He should be responsible for playing a guy who had rape allegations against him. Nothing to do with Ole signing some players from buddy agent of his.
Saying that, 21 players signed from Solbaaken. Six players were signed by Ole from Solbaaken by Cardiff who made 6 appearances before Cardiff were relegated. Mates from 1991. Nah, not dodgy at all.
Good summary of situation here by Castles.
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As long as they're allegations there's nothing wrong with playing him.
Really? Like with Adam Johnson, and with the shit show Sunderland nearly had with the whole fiasco.
And now there is an interpol warrant out for that bloke, only for Solbakken to engineer a move Saudi Arabia for him keep playing football. It all stinks to high heaven.
It does reflect badly on Molde, Ole and Solbakken.
Yet you want Allegri to be United manager, a manager responsible for playing Ronaldo when he had rape allegations against him.
Innocent until proven guilty.
Yeah, he's not the court, he doesn't get to decide if he's guilty or not.
Was Ronaldo wanted by interpol, was Ronaldo's agent a business partner and a longtime friend to Allegri, and did that agent then engineer a move to KSA for him via Russia?
Cato!
You’re doing excellent explaining and trying to bring clarity to this case but that’s the time when I’m starting to get suspicious. Not against you because you are genuine spin doctor material, and that’s a huge compliment. (doesn‘t mean you’re wrong in this case, future will tell) The thing that‘s itches me is how far you go to protect someone you probably don’t know 100%.
I have nothing against Solskjær and Solbakken doing successful biz together. Fair to them. It goes with the territory to be inside or around any grey area when you represent two parties, but when it starts to get serious from our perspective is when it’s our manager who’s in the spot light. United pay Solskjær a fortune to front our club and with that comes greater responsibilities.
Were you also this sanctimonious when Fergie continued to play Jonny Evans despite the allegations, or the numerous dodgy dealings with Mendes under his reign? Or Wenger for playing Van Persie? Or is it only reserved for people you dont like?
How long until the ‘Ole should be impeached’ thread pops up
Sarr was found not guilty in August 2018, Ole kept using him until the season ended in November. Ole left the club in December 2018. Sarr's contract with Molde was terminated in January 2019. The shitshow started when he left for Russia days before his appeal case in February. Sarr was wanted by Interpol in June 2019. 7 months after he had played his final game under Ole.
Managers use rape accused players all the time.
You dislike Ole which is fair enough. But try doing it in a rational way without your tinfoil hat.
No I wouldn't be okay with any player representing United whilst they were on trial for rape. Sarr was made captain for certain games whilst awaiting trail if I read correctly. Did Johnny Evan's allegations or RvP go to trail? If they did I wouldn't want to play whilst awaiting it.
I don’t see the problem too. If someone was our fourth choice signing as a stopgap on a six month loan I wouldn’t cry conspiracy over it. Especially when he took a pay cut to secure the move. Had he gotten a massive signing on fee and his agent had got a fat commission cheque then maybe you would have had a point. Not in the present circumstances. I would laud ole for finding us a stopgap when woody nearly fecked it up for us again.
I don't dislike Ole. He was one of my favourite players at United whilst he was playing and I appreciate that he was a great servant for the club. I just don't want him to be a United manager any longer. I was happy when he was appointed. I thought that he earned it but now I equally think that he has since did a terrible job. That's it.
I've read this tweet from this fella who seems to be fairly switched on. I don't think I'm being irrational in saying that this particular tweet, if true, does not reflect on Ole, Molde and anyone involved. I mean your average people usually get suspended from their work place whilst having such serious charges against them. Again I don't know every single detail from this case but from what I have read about it for past hour or so, your man, Sarr, if he has nothing to fear why not return to Norway? Why is Solbakken seemingly, allowed him to flee to a country which has not extradition with Norway? Look I'm not saying Ole has to get fired over this or anything like that but one can't help but make the connection between him being a close associate of Solbakken and Solbakken being an agent of Sarr. Whole thing reflects poorly on all of them, hence Solbakken trying to say he had nothing to do with Sarr.
If someone made a serious allegation against you (and making an allegation isn't difficult), you'd be cool with your boss sending you home until your trial has been resolved?
We have 'innocent until proven guilty' for a reason.
Is this not a bit similar to the guy at Sunderland. Adam Johnson. What is he doing now? Playing anymore or do noone want him?
His situation sounds far less serious since it was not rape.
His situation sounds far less serious since it was not rape.
How did you get allusion to corruption from that?
From what I read, the poster is actually suggesting that Ole prefers to use the 2 aforementioned names, Solbakken and Aneke.
From there, I am assuming he is asking if it is right and if any other fans may also have further information regarding these issues. Have they, or you or I or anyone known him use different personnel as agents and business managers.
That's what I presume he meant, but that is also just conjecture.
Yeah I can categorically say that my boss would suspend me if I was awaiting trial for rape. If I was innocent, of course I wouldn't be okay with it but I would understand it. Sure I would.
These trials can take years to be resolved. You're a lot more understanding than I am.
Yeah and I try to not get myself in peculiar situations. Well, certainly not where I'm accused of rape.
All you have to do is take some random chick home with you and you're risking it.
So first ole has to fired because of his links to solbakken and his signings at cardiff and molde. And now he has to fired because he played a player who had rape allegations against him. So going by that logic Real Madrid and juventus should not have played Ronaldo pending his allegations being cleared. Also we shouldn’t have played Herrera as he was alleged to have been involved in match fixing. Same with mourinho till he was cleared of his tax fraud case we should have had rui faria managing us. Some people come up with the weirdest shite.
Never been close to any trials here. Just following the law and not doing crazy shit.
Normally if you get into court there must be some reason for it. Although I know people can be accusted who are innocent.
Still this guy had more than 1 rape charge from what I heard. Either he picks the worst kinds of women that starts to accuse him or there is something behind that.
If he constantly picks women that accuse him he got partly himself to blame then.
Although you would think he would learn and stop with his shit when he get accused.
With so much going on you would have thought the club would take action and not just trying to defend the guy.
Of course. I'm not sure if you heard of Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding, two rugby players who were on trial for rape, they were suspended whilst awaiting trail and I didn't hear a single complaint from any Ulster fan. I think it was a right decision too, despite them being eventually acquitted.
You're embarrassing yourself in this thread.