From a game theory perspective, surely it was more wise to wait with the contract stuff till the summer break?
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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Unless Eriksen and Kane leave Spurs, Poch would be a fool to switch to United. It's entirely within the realm of possibility for Tottenham to win trophies next season--even this one, for that matter, being halfway in the CL final already. Why should Poch gamble on United where one manager after another has failed in the last six years? Everybody with any sense knows that the manager is not the problem at United, it's something else, so any competent manager knows that they can't just expect things to work out even if they do their job right. He could become Tottenham's most praised manager and usher in a new era for them and their new stadium if he wins either the CL now or the PL next year, both of which seem more likely right now than him turning United around where all others have failed. No way in hell would I give up the Spurs job unless they lose their two best players in the summer.
People on here think he should be sacked.
Looks like he has lost the players. Even before everton scored i was looking at us and we were second to every 50/50. Perfect day for football as well, not like its rainy. Players just cannot be bothered. Most of them just strolling around the pitch.
Absolute joke and they are running the club into the ground.
I think some people still have 2.5 years of Mourinho spunk dribbling down their mouths.
You're probably right, but as I said in another reply, he might not be the best manager out there, but he'll definitely make it his task to lay solid foundations for whoever replaces him in the future. I am 100% sure he is as big a fan of this club as any of us and wants only what's best for the club.
I'm not even sure Poch would have been the answer and that is what scares me.
The football side of our club needs a revamp starting with Woodward stepping aside.
I think if the slide continues and there is a proven manager that's available then we have to get rid. This performance is up there with the worst of Moyes.
We never even sold him. He left on a free
No goals from open play in 4 games now.
Why does Ole have to share the blame for players not paying attention, being unable to pass 5 yards or trap a ball? If he was playing these shitters whilst Messi was sat on the bench I'd understand but he's essentially trying to make a meal with rotting food and semen stained utensils.
The players have been a complete and utter disgrace this last month and blame should lie squarely on their shoulders, however.... my god how fecking stupid are we? What was there to gain from making Ole the permanent manager when we did?
The whole rise in form came off the back of the new manager bounce, an experimental hiring, why not wait and see what happens after that bounce? It was a perfect situation, nobody had over committed. We were in a perfect situation. The season could have petered out and Ole would have quietly left with no dramas. There was no pressure.
If the form carried on great, we decide in the summer.
Now we’re stuck in this completely stupid of what was an avoidable situation.
Simple fact is Ole will have far more leverage than Lvg and Mourinho did, which means we essentially have to give him as much time as possible of this three year deal.
Now again, yes the players are a shambles at the moment but we’ve been soundly outplayed and outfought by Wolves twice, Watford, West Ham and Everton. Being comprehensively beaten by Barcelona can be expected and accepted, getting routinely outdone by the sort of teams we have been don’t put Ole in a good light.
It just sums up this shambles of a football club and once again Ed Woodward.
The whole rise in form came off the back of the new manager bounce, an experimental hiring, why not wait and see what happens after that bounce? It was a perfect situation, nobody had over committed. We were in a perfect situation. The season could have petered out and Ole would have quietly left with no dramas. There was no pressure.
If the form carried on great, we decide in the summer.
Now we’re stuck in this completely stupid of what was an avoidable situation.
Simple fact is Ole will have far more leverage than Lvg and Mourinho did, which means we essentially have to give him as much time as possible of this three year deal.
Now again, yes the players are a shambles at the moment but we’ve been soundly outplayed and outfought by Wolves twice, Watford, West Ham and Everton. Being comprehensively beaten by Barcelona can be expected and accepted, getting routinely outdone by the sort of teams we have been don’t put Ole in a good light.
It just sums up this shambles of a football club and once again Ed Woodward.
Ever is a bit of a stretch. But I expect at least another 10 years.
This has been coming for a long time.
People were just blinded by the results.
Halfway between that winning/unbeaten run we have been playing like shite, people ignored it because we kept winning.
Where has that attacking football gone from the first few weeks? When we pressed high, the defensive line was high, the fullbacks were high and we scored or at least created a nice passing move practically every game.
No reason why we shouldn’t have waited until the end of the season to make a decision.
Now we’re losing Herrera, will probably lose De Gea and could lose Pogba too. We’re such a mess from top to bottom.
People were just blinded by the results.
Halfway between that winning/unbeaten run we have been playing like shite, people ignored it because we kept winning.
Where has that attacking football gone from the first few weeks? When we pressed high, the defensive line was high, the fullbacks were high and we scored or at least created a nice passing move practically every game.
No reason why we shouldn’t have waited until the end of the season to make a decision.
Now we’re losing Herrera, will probably lose De Gea and could lose Pogba too. We’re such a mess from top to bottom.
if he doesn't start 5-6 academy players against city, his words are meaningless. He said the players needed a reality check, they stopped playing for him. If he has any balls, we will put an academy team out there against City and not even have those players on the bench.
We have nothing to play for. It's time to make a stand against these charlatans.
We have nothing to play for. It's time to make a stand against these charlatans.
There's an argument it's our worst result of the post-Fergie era. Struggling to think of a more embarrassing one.
Sick of people still spouting we sold him cause fergie thought he had a bad attitude
I bet mourinho is laughing his ass off
It’s humiliation today and Ole needs to front up to this. It’s completely unacceptable and he shouldn’t hide away from this in the press.
He was doing fine when he came in, no manager controls individual passes or moves on the pitch but it's their job to motivate players properly and to get them performing. Again, if he warranted praise when he came in for doing well, he has to take criticism when things begin to fall apart.
The concerning thing is the motivation levels.
This was a fecking massive game, crucial for top4 hopes and people aren’t giving anywhere close to 100%.
This was supposed to be the part that ole can do. I can forgive some tactical naivety but the basics, like fecking trying hard we should be doing.
That is down to the manager I’m afraid.
This was a fecking massive game, crucial for top4 hopes and people aren’t giving anywhere close to 100%.
This was supposed to be the part that ole can do. I can forgive some tactical naivety but the basics, like fecking trying hard we should be doing.
That is down to the manager I’m afraid.
If there was clear sign of attacking patterns being established I wouldn’t mind this result however we’ve been getting worse offensively since the Cardiff game. It’s not good enough.
Those who stopped watching under Mourinho will probably stop watching again.
In our case, a continual and toxic mix of the two for the past 6 years. How Woodward still has a job is beyond me. We laughed at Moyes' 6 year contract.
I have said this tons of times. It's a complete farce. Until Woody/Glazers are shamed and rooted out, we're forever going to wallowing in mediocrity. No wonder Pogba/De Gea reportedly want out. They know we have no real intention of competing.
The fans are being taken for the biggest mugs in the world.
I'm worried that he's too much of a pushover, if he had any guts about about him he would drop Pogba, Martial - feck it even De Gea, for Wednesday.
You're saying this as if you're quoting me on something I've actually never said. I am no expert, but in my opinion it was always the players. They stepped up after the sacking of Mou to "show" the world they had a problem with him and have now settled down back to their actual level.
From the top of my head......Seville home and away/That fulham game under Moyes/ United vs PSV/Loosing to that danish team under LVG.
Shame every single person outside of our board of directors could see this. But NOOOOO, they have to ride the social media hype train, so here we are completely fecked.
We will exchange one group of mercenaries for another.
I'm not saying don't spend money. But doing it in a state of panic when everyone knows we are desperate will just see us getting fleeced in the market.
I say sacrifice next season and restructure. Woodward isn't the answer and has shown so.
Heh funny stat that Pep's City lost at Everton 4-0 a couple of years ago. Just goes to show how quickly things can change.
Hope he does a Scholes and resign now.
The attacking game had gone after the honeymoon period.
The attacking game had gone after the honeymoon period.
Can't just keep bringing in player after player like some conveyor belt and hoping for the best. I am happy with 3 quality players that are right.
Lukaku & Sanchez can get out however
Massive pressure now.
I hope he comes out swinging at full time. These players don't deserve protecting, they've done him no favours today and played like they want him sacked
Believe it or not, neither do the other 20 clubs in the league. There's literally only 1 Lionel Messi, and if no manager can perform without him they're all in big trouble
There's no patterns of anything. I have no clue what style we have or what we are trying to achieve tactically.
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