I agree. We will weaken the squad to supposedly strengthen it and still have some pocket money over.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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Put down the bottle.
In an ideal world
Did he have that set up in year one at United? No so stop talking bollocks
Perhaps reread my reply to your post. I've said that Ole probably wouldn't be starting Lingard, Matic, Mata or Pereira, if he had a chance. He also wouldn't be starting Pogba or Rashford, if he wasn't desperate to keep his job and had more quality players. I think he's definitely covering for the incompetence above him. If that bothers you, okay, I prefer it to Mourinho's moaning.
Lindelof wasn't his choice and I was against signing Maguire for that fee. So on that we agree.
All I'm saying is, he isn't given much a chance with what he has to work with and he's most likely going to lose his job because of the people above him.
Nobody. They wouldn't have to. Their clubs would sign adequate cover.I know.This Rashford injury has really wound me up. I know we have a weak squad, but what world class manager would work under these circumstances?
Actually Ole has accomplished more but yeah let’s go mental for an argie whose won nothing in his life apart from 2 Micky mouse cups.
Pereira is crap. We will see how good Martial is now the teams goals are dependant on him. I do agree about Fred, but Maguire, Lindelof have got worse, DDG still makes the odd howler. Lingard should not be here at all.
I just think we are letting Ole and his coaches learn on the job, which is not what a club the size of Manchester United should be about.
No he has not
He signed 27 players.
Jesus, such a bad post
Bet you probably think Spurs fans think Juande Ramos was better than Poch then.
I do agree on this, we do agree on something.
Just not sure these owners will back him completely. It will always be our best player out to finance other players, which just has you going round in circles.There's no kissing emoji FFS!I know.
He did win a league. Even if not a very good one. People wanting Poch, I am not too sure.
The fans backing Ole now will be the same ones saying it was the right decision when he’s inevitably gets sacked. I heard the same thing when Moyes was in charge, then Van Gaal, then Mourinho. There are many United fans that think simply giving time to a manager means we will get results, this just isn’t true. You need evidence of improvement but we don’t have that with Ole. Many argue we have improved from Mourinho’s reign but I don’t see it. We are in a similar position in the league and a worse squad. About the only thing that has improved is the wage bill. And anyway why is Jose’s reign suddenly the barometer on whether we are successful? Most would agree we were poor under him as well.
I get why fans want it to work. He’s a club legend, ‘one of our own’, it would be a fantastic scenario where he got us back to the top. But perfect scenarios like that rarely happen. We need to be realistic and get one of the best coaches in the world that also has an attacking style. Van Gaal and Mourinho were both big name managers but they don’t fit into the United style that our fans want to see. That’s why we shouldn’t get someone like Allegri or Conte. Liverpool and City are where they are because they have the two best managers in the world. People will argue they also have the players but it’s the managers job to identify those players for the squad and make them a success.
7 yeas after Fergie and the board still hasn’t found the right fit for the job.
I get why fans want it to work. He’s a club legend, ‘one of our own’, it would be a fantastic scenario where he got us back to the top. But perfect scenarios like that rarely happen. We need to be realistic and get one of the best coaches in the world that also has an attacking style. Van Gaal and Mourinho were both big name managers but they don’t fit into the United style that our fans want to see. That’s why we shouldn’t get someone like Allegri or Conte. Liverpool and City are where they are because they have the two best managers in the world. People will argue they also have the players but it’s the managers job to identify those players for the squad and make them a success.
7 yeas after Fergie and the board still hasn’t found the right fit for the job.
God damnit. @oates our award show is probably in jeopardy because this useless arsehole might get the sack on Wednesday night.
Jesus, such a bad post
Bet you probably think Spurs fans think Juande Ramos was better than Poch then.
Such a great post, you want to sack a united legend to go after a spurs failure whose never won shit - sort yourself out
With little money and a bunch of them punts because of the restrictions placed upon him. He often had a negative net spend and wasn’t allowed to replace key players with similar quality.
Shall we go Wikipedia vs Wikipedia because you will be embarrassed by your numptyish
Yes he won a league in Norway and somehow thats a bigger achievement than reaching the final of the biggest club competition in the world.
Ok mate
Probably not to be fair.
Fair enough but Klopp has apparently the best team on the planet whilst regularly playing the likes of Matip, Milner, Henderson, Lalana, Ox etc.... imagine those 5 players at United they’d be useless but with proper coaching and a proper system they shine.
Half of Leicester’s squad now look world class,12 months ago they were 16th in the table and looking shite before Rogers came in, he’s got Jonny Evans looking like one of the best Cb’s in the prem.
What then is the point of our medical staff? Do you really think they will send him out there with a fracture in his back?
Beisdes, Ole said this just an hour ago: "
The thing about him playing with a fracture was a tweet from H.Winter with no other sources. Also the quote you posted:
Nothing there about him sending him out there with a fracture in his back. That is pure speculation. Also from the same article
Everyone is gutted about Rashford being injured and it was a (stupid?) risk, but lets stop with the nonsense okay? We have doctors and physios who have to make these kinds of calls. Rashford is clearly a trooper who is willing to play through pain, but if there was a huge risk of him getting injured and Ole knew this, do you really think he would be that stupid and play him in a fecking cup game?
Being a United player-legend isn't a necessary nor on it's own sufficient basis to be manager. And I don't think any Spurs fans would look back on Poch and see his achievements at Spurs as a failure. He didn't win a cup but he made them a consistent Champions League side and created a squad that was far far better than when he left it. You have many resident Spurs fans here, feel free to take their opinion.
Do you really think if a manager is sacked they were a failure for their tenure at the clubs? So Jose would have been a failure during his first stint at Chelsea? Sort yourself out.
Why do fans like you make such sweeping statements?
I wanted Moyes out before most, I hated LVG and his shit football, I despised Jose and his self interest.
Just because I now want Ole to succeed I’m wrong?
Ole wants to manage Messi, Ronaldo, De Bruyne, and some more of the best players in the world. However, he can only play what he's provided by his bosses/scouts/previous regime. He wanted to desperately buy Haaland without but was denied for whatever reason. He's been wanting additions in midfield - still waiting.
I'm sure almost all coaches would struggle with such state of the club and injuries. Had Martial not been injured earlier in the season and Pogba out for nearly full season I'm positive we would have had at 10 more points.
I'm sure almost all coaches would struggle with such state of the club and injuries. Had Martial not been injured earlier in the season and Pogba out for nearly full season I'm positive we would have had at 10 more points.
By his own words he said Rashford was struggling and he chose to play him, not the medical staff. It’s Ole’s fault and pointless to say otherwise, just accept it and move on. He risked Rashford because he was scared to lose a cup game, now he’ll have to deal with consequences.
Yes because you ‘want’ Ole to succeed when the evidence in front of you is telling the compete opposite. As I said in my post because he is a club legend fans are judging him differently to other unsuccessful managers and I don’t think that’s right.
I didn't say had a previous fracture though ? I said what in the quote, that he was struggling with several knocks and thus Ole said he didn't want to play him, but risked it and backfired. If he was cleared to be fully fit by the medical stuff then why Ole said things like "didn't want to play him" and "backfired" ?. I think most logical assumptions based on such quote is the medical stuff told him he's not injured but he's having knocks and better to be rested, thus he didn't want him to play and put him on the bench and when we were winning decided to risk it, and it ended up in an aggravated injury.
Waffle, who said Jose was a failure during his first stint?
All I know is I don’t want Poch anywhere near this club.
That's what I'm trying to figure out. You said only ole knew
Forget his club legend status it’s just nice to have a manager I respect.
You're calling Poch a failure, presumably because he didn't win a cup. Which is hilariously laughable if that's the sole baramoter to use when comparing managerial competence in the early stages of their career. It's equally laughable if you think Ole is any more accomplished, or even remotely in the same league as Poch. Legendary player or not, he simply isn't there as a manager, yet anyway.
Respect because?
He’s been having the fans over since he signed a permanent contract!
He was denied by the player not wanting to join him Sultan, we know the reason.
Spurs failure - he reached the Champions League final with Tottenham, fecking Tottenham Hotspurs.
He improved a lot of players they bought on the cheap or from the academy. Kane, Walker, Alli, Eriksen, Son, Lucas even players like Sissoko. One thing all our managers have struggled to do with us is improve the players they have signed.
I don't know a single Spurs fan that considers him a failure
Every single one I know wanted him to get more time and loves the bloke.
I don't know a single Spurs fan that considers him a failure
Every single one I know wanted him to get more time and loves the bloke.
Happy days, let them continue to be the perennial failures they are.
Gees some on here are delusional and have no idea. If you have a moment you should read into Liverpool's success (which btw is only a champions league trophy thus far). Its about all the 1%ers. Klopp is not a magician, the club and he have identified and recruited top notch backroom staff to suit there needs, from coaches, conditioning coaches, to nutritionists and psychologists. Its been a process since 2016.
We are finally on a good path, and Ole is doing wonders with what is at his disposal thus far. Whether Ole is manager for the next decade or just a couple more years, he has managed to steer the ship that is our club with all it's backroom management issues in the right direction for once.
We are finally on a good path, and Ole is doing wonders with what is at his disposal thus far. Whether Ole is manager for the next decade or just a couple more years, he has managed to steer the ship that is our club with all it's backroom management issues in the right direction for once.
You clearly disliked Mourinho so any manager that came in would have been better.
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