Andycoleno9
matchday malcontent
About TFM. Didn't Lvg, who is someone who has great history in producing players, said that TFM's future is on dmc position and that he will make true dmc of him? I am maybe wrong but i could swear that he said it
I thought it was great to see him stand his ground there. People forget that he's got a bit of needle about him, Ole. Remember the "couldn't care less" about Liverpool? Or how about that red card against Newcastle? You couldn't be successful in the squads he played in without having a bit of arrogance and balls about you - Roy Keane has even said that Ole's not the chirpy kid he appears to be.
I think he means that football has changed, it's not all about shouting and throwing tantrums. Jesus, surely after Mourinho's stint we can all see that? Look at how Mou is already behaving at Spurs. His is a management style of the past, Ole is trying to be different. It's not always working, but personally I blame the squad he's inherited for that and the people making decisions for 6 years on player and staff transfers.
It's a shame it's not going a little better, but I genuinely believe Ole is the right man for the job right now. And the potential reward of having a legend like Ole being successful at our club is worth the risk of it not. I am flabbergasted that people don't see this. A hundred trophies with Mourinho would've still left a salty taste in my mouth, but as it turned out, his medieval, archaic approach to football didn't bring much success either, certainly not anything that makes it look like a mistake we binned him. Give Ole some creative players and some attacking full-backs in January and I'm absolutely certain he can make top 4 and challenge for some trophies. If he's anywhere close, I'd give him another season after this with more reinforcement in the summer.
I wonder sometimes what people actually want from supporting football. I want to feel like I belong within a club's spirit, like I have a connection to the people in it. From Bobby to Alex and now to Ole. That's the spirit that Klopp has brought back to Liverpool and that's what we should bring back to United. Even if Ole's success doesn't match Klopp's, I'll still celebrate a goal scored by Ole's united with more honest passion than I would Mourinho's. And I feel more visceral pain when we lose as well, because I actually care about the guy. I couldn't give a shit about Mou.
I honestly think if we'd have been half as successful as we were under Fergie I'd still have loved every minute, because it felt like it meant something. Imagine if Fergie had left in 2001 and we'd have had Eriksson followed by Capello and whoever else. Who knows, we might have won a couple more European cups. But I wouldn't swap the joy of Fergie rebuilding the squad, fighting back, losing with the last kick to City then getting it back for anything. That's what football is for - tribal, sincere, brutal passion. And we stand a chance of getting it back if we keep faith with Ole. Even if that chance is slim, I'd rather thrown all my money behind him than continues with a carousel of soulless football journeymen out to fleece the club for some notoriety and a modicum of success.
Primary school comeback, saw it from a mile away but wanted to check how much more you could embarrass yourself. Go on, keep your circus act going.No worries man, I'm sure you'll manage one day.
Hate the guy who won us the European Cup in Barcelona and many PL and cups to boot ?
This fanbase get worse by the second let alone minute.
Pressure starting to get him. He's upset by what RVP said because RVP is an ex-player and what he said is true.
Kinda ironic that Ole got angry because he was criticised for not getting angry
Pressure starting to get him. He's upset by what RVP said because RVP is an ex-player and what he said is true.
Either means our number is all we have in common or he isn't getting anything else out of me (like a response)What was, "Robin took my number 20, that's all he's taking from me." about? Any takers?
What's he supposed to say? He's stuck with these lads until Ed gets him another midfielder.
He might as well encourage them.
This is so true. Why did he get agitated at RVP's comment? All the while he has been ignoring all of the BS.Upset by RvP's comment? He's lucky his media pals aren't so critical of him. The previous managers before him received harsh criticisms.
What would that prove, besides satisfying a small number of bitter fans? No need for RVP to say that, as it also completely takes focus away from the players performance. No need to create a tense, toxic atmosphere like the dark days of Jose. And he wasn't even laughing in the presser, someone just took a screencap. I could probably take a picture from that 30 second clip and make it look like he's getting hysterical over RVP's comments.Absolutely no need for Ole to blow up on that statement by RVP like that. Unnecessary and losing his cool clearly. Rvp said nothing wrong. He was just saying, be angry once in a while. Its allowed. Like we just out in a pathetic performance, you're allowed to look upset but stay neutral in the comments.
Very strange to get angry at a guy us United fans all love too.
You still think top four is on? Like we will magically find some consistency and go on a winning run? Mark my words, only thing that can propel us is another new manager bounce like last season.I am Ole out but I am supporting him and the team till the end of season. Top 4 is at stake. Lets stand behind the team now and think about sacking this and that later in the summer.
Anyone post this yet?
He just said he won't change. What makes you think he'll listen to you"Not in medieval times" but trying to emulate Sir Alex and play kick n rush football. Which isn't bad but that smells like hypocrisy to me, He didn't have to be that petty really. Robin was right. Now get angry at your players, Ole. RvP got nothing to do with their performances.
I'd assume Ed is the one that cares about value. Ole can ask for players but the club need to be willing to pay for them.I just find comments like this from Ole quite bizarre;
Well, we had four fit players for two positions at the start of the season, and we felt that we didn't find the right one [midfielder] for the right value. But we have been looking to strengthen the squad in several positions.”
Why would it bother him about the value?
Long gone are the days when Utd, Liverpool and the like could look at the rest of the clubs in England and hand pick the best performing players and it was automatic that the clubs would sell them. The other clubs now are rich in their own right that they can decide to keep their asset as then they have a better chance to stay in the top flight or they may decide we will sell him but only if a premium price is paid.
There is nothing wrong in that and if Ole thinks that Utd will not have to pay that premium price then he is totally out of touch.
Surely paying 80mil for Maguire would have opened his eyes to that.
Guy shows he's hit his tolerance levels and people still criticise. Damned if you do ect
There you go Ole. Finally showing a bit of fight
What would that prove, besides satisfying a small number of bitter fans? No need for RVP to say that, as it also completely takes focus away from the players performance. No need to create a tense, toxic atmosphere like the dark days of Jose. And he wasn't even laughing in the presser, someone just took a screencap. I could probably take a picture from that 30 second clip and make it look like he's getting hysterical over RVP's comments.
Doesn't look upset
Can you actually see any decent to good to great players joining United with Ole in charge. The footballing world will be taking note of his tactical inability. Then he is coming out with inane statements.
He's fuming imo. Love RVP but what he said isn't any helpful. Like Ole would need more pressure atm ...
Ole's aggression could be better directed at some of his so called footballers currently disgracing the United shirt. And also maybe at Raiola who is foul-mouthing the club and SAF. Instead of getting riled at RVP, he could have torn Raiola a new one in the presser. And I don't think Ole realizes that more criticism is coming his way from ex players and press, albeit more justified than the kind of flimsy "he shouldn't be laughing" accusations. His immunity period is mostly over.
Also Ed and owners most probably won't back him in this window because the usual withdrawal symptoms have set in. The lad is in a tough corner. If he has real fight inside he will emerge victorious, but highly unlikely, because a montage of all Ole's pressers will tell you that it's mostly highly inconsistent talk Ole has indulged in during his tenure so far.
He's fuming imo. Love RVP but what he said isn't any helpful. Like Ole would need more pressure atm ...
Not helpful to whom? A failing manager who looks out of his depth or Manchester United?!He's fuming imo. Love RVP but what he said isn't any helpful. Like Ole would need more pressure atm ...
He has the right to voice his opinion, even if it's a shit opinion. Guy has never managed before, and I thought Ole was being nice by not mentioning that. I remember when Mourinho went after Neville and Scholes' coaching records when they criticised him, and of course the Jose fans sided with him, but at least those two have been in the hotseat. Ole had a point when he said he doesn't know him, he doesn't know how he's like in the dressing room, and Ole clearly wasn't happy on the touchline. Guy doesn't know what he's talking about.Guy was analyzing the game in Sky Sports studio. Why shouldn't he say his opinion on the manager, when it's said in a complete respectful manner ? Is that what Ole wants to hear then, that our ex players coming on whenever they analyze a game for us and saying he's doing great, his management style is great, players are crap and we need 10 more transfer windows to get better results?