Looks like a guy that’s just won the lottery and can’t believe his luck, he’s just enjoying the ride while it lasts and if the statements from the club are anything to go by that‘ll be a while yet.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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Looks like a guy that’s just won the lottery and can’t believe his luck, he’s just enjoying the ride while it lasts and if the statements from the club are anything to go by that‘ll be a while yet.
Amazed people still back him. He's more out of his depth than Moyes was.
So as I said in the post before, all the passing on a healthier team is basically saying there’s not a toxic environment at the moment. Hardly a thing to recognize a manager for.
Please elaborate specifics, which are this clear signs of improvement? All I see is counterattacking football and “Jesus at the wheel” tactics, hoping for a moment of brillance from our strikers to break the opposition rather than a attacking style of playing patterns.
Less deadwood? This is also a repeated opinion here, he got rid of which deadwood?
Sanchez on loaning so he’ll be comming back without a doubt, Darmian who didn’t played at all so it doesnt makes any difference having him here or not, and also let Smalling, Lukaku , Herrera and Fellaini go away all of them would be starting or getting fairly amount of minutes.
He also extended Mata’s and Jones contracts so if anything he made sure we keep those two in our deadwood list.
He isnt clearing the squad, he got players in and out, as much as any other manager would have.
Giving him credit for that would be like saying Mou was clearing the deadwood because he sold Rooney, Schweingsteiger, Schneiderling, etc.
The thing is that theres so little to defend Ole with that people uses anything and twist it to make it sound as an achievement.
He isn’t measured with the same stick as other managers, he gets away with all this failures because his history here as a player, but he’s had worst results than Mourinho when the team turned from him and that was a Mourinho team without any reinformencents and a toxic environment.
It's because he can't believe he is in this job.
Great point about the deadwood, it’s something people just spout without actually thinking about. More deadwood was retained than sold and Sanchez will definitely come back. Any manger would have sold a player or two, anyone who replaces Ole would as well.
Did not think it was possible to hire someone as inept as Moyes but we managed to do it somehow.
We need to hit the reset button now.
Hope to feck Sanchez doesn't come back.
Sounds like the players are running the club again. At least Jose had the bollocks to stand up to the players.
A manager should be allowed to buy his players but inst allowed to be justified to play without any style or pattern if not given an entire new squad. He has 3 new players, if anything the team should play as if only one or two positions away from a great team, besides a clear number 10 in which we all agree we need we don’t really know which one is the next urgency.
We need a number 9, but hey Martial’s great, we need a RW but keep playing James/Greenwood, we need midfield options but McTominay and Fred are great Ole has improved them so much.
The reality is we should be playing better and with a defined style at least, no one knows what Ole is trying to achieve, we don't know if we’re a possession based team, a counterattacking team (since we only play this way against top opposition), we don't know which player is Ole targeting besides “young and hungry” because we don't know what’s the football he wants to play.
Maybe a good manager could make him good? We will see if Conte manages it when he is back in Italy.
I personally doubt it, but Falcao did find form after being terrible for us and Chelsea as an example.
His body might have declined too much, but I would not be fully sure about it.
By his people ? Shouldn't that be our people, you know like our medical people.
Which players do you think are running the club can I ask?
I saw this and was going to post but because it was so shocking, I didn't believe Ole's win percentage was that bad.
I have to agree with RVP that he smiles too much.
The last manager frowned all the time. This one smiles all the time.
The players must be so fecking confused
He was taken as a caretaker manager for that reason exactly. Someone to pick the players up and be nice with the media. That was fine. Then we got promised we would look throughly for a new manager and gave the good mood guy the job after losing games left right and center with shit football. Unbelievable the incompetence this club has.
Completely agree.
It is as permanent manager I think. So they exclude almost half his league wins doing that.
I'd be grinning if I was in my dream job that I was probably under skilled to be in, earning lots of money and with no fear of the sack given how much the club are publicly backing me- it is the equivalent of a lottery win/ dream to him
I was shouting at the TV in the first half, we were 2-0 down and yet Arteta, despite his side winning, was out of his seat full of energy gesturing his side forward yet and this may just be the camera not having him in shot in which case I apologise to him but where is Ole? Answer- slumped in his seat, I know some managers have a more passive style than others and he was up the 2nd half but its hardly inspiring his players to look over and see him slumped there. They and he are safe regardless of the results so who cares? While he annoys the hell out of me would you see Klopp sitting slumped like that if Liverpool were losing 2-0 playing like that? Show a bit of passion drive and hairdryer! Moyes used to be like it as well and annoyed me we would be losing and he would be slumped looking clueless in his seat
I was shouting at the TV in the first half, we were 2-0 down and yet Arteta, despite his side winning, was out of his seat full of energy gesturing his side forward yet and this may just be the camera not having him in shot in which case I apologise to him but where is Ole? Answer- slumped in his seat, I know some managers have a more passive style than others and he was up the 2nd half but its hardly inspiring his players to look over and see him slumped there. They and he are safe regardless of the results so who cares? While he annoys the hell out of me would you see Klopp sitting slumped like that if Liverpool were losing 2-0 playing like that? Show a bit of passion drive and hairdryer! Moyes used to be like it as well and annoyed me we would be losing and he would be slumped looking clueless in his seat
Not that it's a foregone conclusion or anything but if, if, it does transpire that Ole has been lieing to cover up for Pogba all this time it will count as a giant fecking betrayal.
You think SAF would ever do something as spineless as let Pogba walk all over him and make him look a liar and a fool, or any half serious semi-competent manager for that matter?
You think SAF would ever do something as spineless as let Pogba walk all over him and make him look a liar and a fool, or any half serious semi-competent manager for that matter?
Wonder how many we have to lose before he’s gone. I did think he’d be here until the summer after the city game, but the fans seem to be turning against him more with every passing game.
This is the main reason the players are very happy under ole. He doesn't seem to punish mediocrity and rather accepts it and the players go along with it.
Maybe. Although I also doubt it. He's out with tendon injury until at least mid January. Depends what he plays like when he gets fit and if he can get back into the team and put some form together and show that he is not finished at the top level. it's a big ask.
Sir Alex decided to field Rafael and Park in a midfield two in an actual premier league game because he was pissed that some jumped up kid and his “shit bag” agent had the audacity to question his playing time. I think we all know the answer to your question.
You saying he should or shouldn't be allowed better players/his players? I don't understand.
He has spoken about what he wants the team to play like. Higher intensity is needed for this style. Many of the players we have can't play that style for a whole season. We train for this during the summer break, of which he has had one. And then, of course, buy players to suit the style.
Im saying he was already allowed to get players, he got three in Maguire, AWB and James. No manager is going to have the benefit of the doubt to keep getting players if he doesn’t shows results.
Regarding all the intensity are just words without substance, we have a young team if anything we should be able to maintain high intensity if properly coached, or at least be playing like Arteta’s Arsenal gassing out in the final minutes but showing the style for most of the match.
We dont show any style what so ever, the games we played better we have counterattacked the opposition, surprisingly effective, and yet Ole never speaks about this. All he talks is totally contrary to counterattacking football.
Well it certainly seems like Pogba is allowed to do as he pleases.
Or maybe just not having to inherit the worst and most disjointed United squad in memory.
If you disregard that and us missing our best player all season who happens to be the only world class outfield player we have, then you might as well disregard everything that is relevant to the discussion and continue to stamp your feet for the second coming of SAF.
If you accept the rebuild, and the hard times it will take during it, then you may start to see the wood for the trees.
Ok but we have never even heard of him trying to be anything but a positive influence in the dressing room. When Chelsea’s players forced their managers out the same names came up of players downing tools, who amongst ours have there actually been reports of doing this?
You going to say anything relevant without being dramatic? Explain to me how we spent £130m on a defence but now our squad is only as good as relegation fodder. Like it or not there is no deference to our squad; Spurs; Chelsea or even Leicester. The manager is not the only problem but he’s a big part of it. I’m sure Mourinho wished he had Dalot; Lingard and Maguire and that’s not even a good list of players. You don’t need a world class eleven to play good football and how some sense of identity except for United DNA and the spirit of the Stratford end. This current era is a joke and will only get worse the longer this stupid long term plan remains.
Ole does he needs to do to keep his job. That means no stirring up the pot. Don't push for the transfers if Ed says no. Don't say anything negative against the boards. Keep smiling and repeating the word "rebuild".
I just want this season to end. The thought of having 5 more months of this garbage is torture.
We are one man team now? Is that what you are saying? Without Pogba, we can't beat the mid table teams anymore?
Ole and the club are the ones begging him like they're helpless without him. It's clear he's ducking his first team duties and needs to be shipped out asap. This is like Moyes-Van Persie all over again
Because of what's been bought by previous managers, we need better players. Be it Ole, one of the previous managers or a new one. We needed and need to buy better. I believe most of this forum is in agreement of that. What he has bought was needed. Maybe bar James, who at the very least look like a pretty good squad player, long term.
How is it words without substance? If he ain't got the players, what's he supposed to do? What should he have done differently?
A lot. These are not players who play for a pub team. Most of them are international players who can play as per the instructions. I think apart from AWB all are or were international players. We get beaten not because the players are so bad. We get beaten because our coaching and tactics are terrible. That is entirely down to the Manager.
Why the feck is he smiling?
My partner hasn’t spoken a word to me since the game ended, because I’m sitting here furious with a face like a smacked arse.
Yet our manager is cracking out a smile. No wonder the players simply decide when to perform.
The worst is yet to come..another two months of Ole and we will be out of both domestic cups and out/on our way out of the Europa. League wise we will be between 12 and 16. There are at least 6 teams nearby us which are capable of putting in any sort of decent run and zooming past us. While we continue our win draw lose combination for the sake of the mythical rebuild. The silver lining? We fixed our defence no? Oh no wait we need one more 80mil CB and 50 mil RB before we can say that we did.
Please don't tell me this is true? This is a fake piece of news. I cannot believe this if its true. A manager of Manchester United smiling after losing a match?
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