Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

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Tbf everywhere you find these types. I have followed United for more than 30 years. In amateur football you also have them. A couple of bad results and you see the village idiot screaming for the manager to get sacked.
But over here, there s a high concentration if them

I don't get it really. It's as if they don't realise everyone agrees that the club is struggling so keep going on about it relentlessly. Yes we get it. Give it a rest.

Their lives must be thoroughly depressing.
 
A couple?

You mean six months of shocking football with nearly every unwanted record smashed. Abysmal away form which we couldn’t even beat one of the worst team in prem history in Huddersfield and losing to Newcastle who have the second worst manager in the league after us.


It's like trying to argue evolution with a hardline religious nut, mate.

You can present facts, it won't matter.
 
How do you lot enjoy football? The self hate you have when watching another team play is ridiculous.
You don't have to bring everything back to United.
 
That midfield of Maddison, Ndidi and Tielemans would probably walk into our team.. sadly.

Well that’s what happens when you improve players. I don’t have a clue where Ndidi come from, Maddison was in them “championship” and Tielemans flopped at Monaco. But we have Pogba £80m and Fred £50m. So sorry if I can’t get down with more excuses.
 
I don't get it really. It's as if they don't realise everyone agrees that the club is struggling so keep going on about it relentlessly. Yes we get it. Give it a rest.

Their lives must be thoroughly depressing.
From my experience, many of them who I knew personally usually have other problems, either at home, work or others.
 
Every one of them would.

Maddison even, over Pogba. More consistent, young and 'gets the league', wouldn't be stropping etc. He's like the epitomy of an Ole Yella signing/player. If Maddison was here, he'd be our Pogba over Pogba.

Ndidi and Tielemans against Scott and Fred/Pereira/Mata/Lingard is like comparing those same players to League 1 players.

Yet Maddison will probably come here and play like Tom Cleverley and Pogba will go to Madrid and win the Champions League. So how does any of what you said make sense?
 
How do you lot enjoy football? The self hate you have when watching another team play is ridiculous.
You don't have to bring everything back to United.


I dont that's the entire point.

I haven't enjoyed watching this club for a good few years. the 2018 world cup was amazing because I watched football with no invested interest in any specific team and it was great.
 
Yet Maddison will probably come here and play like Tom Cleverley and Pogba will go to Madrid and win the Champions League. So how does any of what you said make sense?


Well. Pogba winning the CL will be because he's surrounded by better players for a start. Maddison turning into Cleverly will be because our manager and coaching setup is League 1 standard.

What I said makes PERFECT sense lad - all three of those players are much better than the players we currently have as our midfield options, thus, they would walk into our midfield. The only arguable one is Maddison/Pogba and even that isn't a clear-cut win for Pogba, I'd say its not too far fetched that Maddison is a better midfielder. Gun to head, in a functioning team, I'd choose Pogba. But if I was forced to choose Maddison I wouldn't be distraught.
 
Every one of them would.

Maddison even, over Pogba. More consistent, young and 'gets the league', wouldn't be stropping etc. He's like the epitomy of an Ole Yella signing/player. If Maddison was here, he'd be our Pogba over Pogba.

Ndidi and Tielemans against Scott and Fred/Pereira/Mata/Lingard is like comparing those same players to League 1 players.
And Yet Ole could have easily have bought Ndidi, yet didn't feel the need to go after him. He's not some big name. Everyone knows he does a job, to destroy. Like I could understand not being able to sign Rice who is the flashier name and would cost a lot. Ndidi is the opposite.

Tbf everywhere you find these types. I have followed United for more than 30 years. In amateur football you also have them. A couple of bad results and you see the village idiot screaming for the manager to get sacked.
But over here, there s a high concentration if them
As if people wanting Ole to be sacked is only due to the results. It's to do with the type of football on display and with seeing no flashes of the football Ole talks about. Klopp in his first season didn't get the results. He had 7th best form in the league type of results. Thing is, from the very start you could see the type of football he wanted and he gradually got his side to score a good amount of goals.

Ole has no evidence of competence on the pitch.
 
So are we going to bring up Ole after every game even if we don’t play? This Ole anti-agenda is getting out of controll.

Tonight, there is a game between CD Honduras and Real de Minas. Let’s try to connect that game with Ole in some wierd way.
 
And Yet Ole could have easily have bought Ndidi, yet didn't feel the need to go after him

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It s already difficult getting 1 player from Leicester let alone too. Not to mention that Ndidi s first touch is not very good either
 
So are we going to bring up Ole after every game even if we don’t play? This Ole anti-agenda is getting out of controll.

Tonight, there is a game between CD Honduras and Real de Minas. Let’s try to connect that game with Ole in some wierd way.
People bring it up because there are amazingly still people on Ole's side coming up with awful excuses as to why he needs more time.
 
So are we going to bring up Ole after every game even if we don’t play? This Ole anti-agenda is getting out of controll.

Tonight, there is a game between CD Honduras and Real de Minas. Let’s try to connect that game with Ole in some wierd way.


Why?
Neither of them are in our league or are comparable in any way shape or form. Leicester are in our league and are regularly out-performing us on the field, and the table proves that. Of course we're going to discuss them, especially considering some of our fanbase consider their manager a joke figure and laughed at their fans when we bought 'their best player' this summer.

Suck it up lad. We dished it out, we take it back. Leicester City and Brendan Rodgers are currently what we aspire to be.
 
It s already difficult getting 1 player from Leicester let alone too. Not to mention that Ndidi s first touch is not very good either
Ndidi brings something we're lacking. He's a defensive presence, which is something we're lacking. It's an obvious hole in our squad that was not addressed by Ole.
 
Why?
Neither of them are in our league or are comparable in any way shape or form. Leicester are in our league and are regularly out-performing us on the field, and the table proves that. Of course we're going to discuss them, especially considering some of our fanbase consider their manager a joke figure and laughed at their fans when we bought 'their best player' this summer.

Suck it up lad. We dished it out, we take it back. Leicester City and Brendan Rodgers are currently what we aspire to be.

Discuss things yes but don't come on here making weird comparisons and a few lines of sniping comments. That's what people are sick of. Simply adds nothing and fills the thread with useless shite.

Mods need to get a grip of the United forum.
 
Ndidi brings something we're lacking. He's a defensive presence, which is something we're lacking. It's an obvious hole in our squad that was not addressed by Ole.
There are more than one area we need to strengthen. As things are I m more concerned about lack of creativity. I am assuming that we ll not be addressing all areas in January so if I have to choose I ll go for a creative midfielder and an experienced striker.
 
We’ve lost 3 league games in 9. Doesn’t make us one of the worst, it’s about par for what we did under all the other managers since fergie, did you want them all sacked under a year in charge?
It's not "about par", we are the worst we have been. I wanted Moyes to be sacked under a year in charge like I want Ole to be sacked. I didn't want LVG or Jose to be sacked as unlike the other 2, we showed some progress.
 
Discuss things yes but don't come on here making weird comparisons and a few lines of sniping comments. That's what people are sick of. Simply adds nothing and fills the thread with useless shite.

Mods need to get a grip of the United forum.
Spot on. At this rate I m expecting someone to blame the torrential rain on Ole s time in Cardiff.
 
I'm happy that Brendan Rodgers and Leicester can dispel this ridiculous notion that you have to spend hundreds of millions on players and have three years in the shit 'rebuild' to go from boring football to exciting football. All it takes is a good manager appointment and a couple of months to reap obvious rewards. They ditch safe, risk-free but boring Puel football and get Rodgers and they're probably in for a shout for European football of some form... heck even Champions League. They've got an advantage of having no distraction of European football so it's possible.
 
Well that’s what happens when you improve players. I don’t have a clue where Ndidi come from, Maddison was in them “championship” and Tielemans flopped at Monaco. But we have Pogba £80m and Fred £50m. So sorry if I can’t get down with more excuses.

Do you think Fred can improve? I knew Maddison was a good player at Norwich, the question is if we was to sign him from Norwich are you one of those fans who would have said "who" not good enough?

Pogba is 'injured" and I think personally he hasn't wanted to be here for two seasons.

I'm a Ole in - not because of 1999, because he has removed players we all know were not good enough and has done what he said he would and play the kids when he's had the chance.
 
With 10men he comfortably took 2pts off Ole Yella at the same ground Brendan just jumped 9 on him.

Can we throw in that Ole won against Brendan or is that not ok in this all Brendan and Leicester are so amazing stuff.

It was nog long ago Ranieri won League with them and brought in winning culture and mentalitet. People have short memories.
 
Can someone explain to me how many new players Rodgers got to implement his philosophy? Apparently Solksjaer needs 5 new players.
But, apparently, Ole is a genius for signing Maguire for £80m. Then what does that say about Rodgers who didn’t sign a replacement for Maguire and instead turned to Soyuncu who was already at the club, and the previous season made only 6 appearances. Yet has still managed to improve the team and improve a player who the year before didn’t appear to be much.

Can you imagine the excuses made for Ole if he sold a £70m + player and didn’t sign any replacements... no need to imagine. Don’t imagine we’ve seen the outcome and the excuses.
 
Do you think Fred can improve? I knew Maddison was a good player at Norwich, the question is if we was to sign him from Norwich are you one of those fans who would have said "who" not good enough?

Pogba is 'injured" and I think personally he hasn't wanted to be here for two seasons.

I'm a Ole in - not because of 1999, because he has removed players we all know were not good enough and has done what he said he would and play the kids when he's had the chance.

Why do you keep using quotation marks
 
But, apparently, Ole is a genius for signing Maguire for £80m. Then what does that say about Rodgers who didn’t sign a replacement for Maguire and instead turned to Soyuncu who was already at the club, and the previous season made only 6 appearances. Yet has still managed to improve the team and improve a player who the year before didn’t appear to be much.

Can you imagine the excuses made for Ole if he sold a £70m + player and didn’t sign any replacements... no need to imagine. Don’t imagine we’ve seen the outcome and the excuses.

Who said Ole is a genius for signing Maguire?
 
It's not "about par", we are the worst we have been. I wanted Moyes to be sacked under a year in charge like I want Ole to be sacked. I didn't want LVG or Jose to be sacked as unlike the other 2, we showed some progress.

So your showing ole the same respect as moyes but less than 2 shysters like Lvg and Jose

Nice.
 
But, apparently, Ole is a genius for signing Maguire for £80m. Then what does that say about Rodgers who didn’t sign a replacement for Maguire and instead turned to Soyuncu who was already at the club, and the previous season made only 6 appearances. Yet has still managed to improve the team and improve a player who the year before didn’t appear to be much.

Can you imagine the excuses made for Ole if he sold a £70m + player and didn’t sign any replacements... no need to imagine. Don’t imagine we’ve seen the outcome and the excuses.
Is Rodgers building for the title?
Im not saying Ole is succeeding or is the right man for the job but is Leicesters squad good enough or is his style on the level to bring down Liverpool and City?
Because thats what Uniteds board are building for. Thats the players we apparently want to scout and sign.
Im not saying Leicester arent a great side but put them in United shirts and we would be tearing them apart on here.
Im sure a competent United manager could use our resources and dominate every other game and finish 7th.
This conparison doesn't make any sense. In a way Ole transfer hands are tied compared to who we can sanction to sign than Rodgers.
If that makes sense.
 
I may be drunk, but I'm sad thinking about my and the cafes negative feelings for Ole at the moment. The Norwich presser got me really worked up to the point I was questioning Ole's decision to not leave United as a player. Really dark stuff. I don't want his legacy tinted and it's reached that point for me the more this endures.

It's not even all his fault. Feckin Woodward hired him. It should have been a fairy tale interim period and then Ole going off to learn his managerial trade elsewhere.
 
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