Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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The way we played? yeah, it count as disgusting to me.
If you have a top squad and top manager you win things, if you've got a poor squad and top manager you paper over alot of cracks, and convince yourself it is the managers fault you aren't winning things, if you've got a poor squad and poor manager you are shown up for what you are.
We've just got a manager that matches the overall quality of our squad, so it's no surprise with what we're seeing, the fact the people that are running the club are even worse is the only reason I'm still reluctant to call for Ole to go.
We've just got a manager that matches the overall quality of our squad, so it's no surprise with what we're seeing, the fact the people that are running the club are even worse is the only reason I'm still reluctant to call for Ole to go.
Which one is Ole then?
Just watching arsenal get beat at home by some dodgy Portuguese team at home, maybe you want to refine winning 0-1 away in Europe at a hostile ground as disgusting to not entertaining.
Or are you just another sack him whatever he does merchant?
If they let Ole go at the moment they would still make the wrong decision choosing a manager. New manager would be stuck with this squad, would say he needs rest of season to look at players (so no January signings).
Mourinho's free still right?
Would love to see Ole get us back winning trophy next year in the Championship
We weren't playing this defensively before the Liverpool game arrived. Not even close, to be fair.
It wasn't Ole's tactical nous that nullified Liverpool, he simply borrowed Jose's tactics that were successful against them in previous encounters. That he chose to use those same tactis against the likes of Partizan is more than a little worrying.
I'd rather we got relegated than play this brand of football all season long.
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1 shot on target?
That's bad. I keep waiting for us to go on a tear, but then these results come in and
Wtf are we doing wrong - Is it the players or is the coaching that bad?
We need Ince with his graphic simple instructions?
That's bad. I keep waiting for us to go on a tear, but then these results come in and
Wtf are we doing wrong - Is it the players or is the coaching that bad?
We need Ince with his graphic simple instructions?
Well Ole surely isn't papering over any cracks just now?
AZ beat Astana 6-0 and we just about got 1 goal. How depressing.
Brainless goons? Feck me, I’ll take being called that if our board wake up and realize we’re facing relegation if Ole and his staff continue another few months. Then the delusional, top red goons can wait for the next Moyes/Ole to come along and support to their hearts content, which is hopefully never again. If I’m brainless for wanting the club I support to not produce the thrash we’ve not only seen tonight but for the past 10 months against substantially lower opposition, so be it.
You don't care about the EL fine, but aren't you worried about the performances and general direction under Ole? Where is the actual progress on the pitch in the 10 months he's been here? Don't you find that concerning?
If we put in a similar performance at the weekend like we did tonight, we will get pumped i imagine.
Let's not kid ourselves, we got very lucky tonight. 1 shot on target (& that was the penalty), 5 defenders, 1 striker... we was holding on for dear life at the end parking that bus. That's got to be alarming surely?
AZ should have demolished us at least by 3 goals
Win 1-0 even with tumescent play count as improvement for you? I though that was the thing LVG/Jose got beaten to death with. Move the goalpost to suit your narrative eh?
I've yet to see any improvement in set up so far.
You have misunderstood. I do care about the EL, but not too much about the performances as he will be inclined to put a mish-mash of a side out. I am more bothered about this side getting a bit of momentum, we need a win against Norwich and then see what happens after that. If we start getting results they might just get a bit more confidence. I just think Ole is full of hot air at the moment, that he was being held up as someone who would have us go out all guns blazing, where is is actually terrified of losing his job and is being very conservative.
Think this time round there are/will be better teams in the EL so do not expect us to actually win it in the end.
Poor manager then. Why carry a poor manager with a poor squad then?
Why are you expecting that, we are transitioning now from the disaster both those clowns left. Your not going to see great football anytime soon whether it’s Ole, the great ideas to replace him temporarily with his assistants or bringing in some negative Italian manager for a few years.
This guy is really getting away with this shit, and it’s crazy. Man got job security off of a draw, then didn’t register a shot on target in open play against Partizan, and people are in this thread talking about improvement.
Manchester United.
Manchester United.
People are incapable of separating Ole the player and Ole the manager... Take no notice of it, they're too far gone now, for them to admit Ole needs to go is never going to happen.
Christ your all so negative, a few wins and we’re near the top half at least that may stop the relegation talk hopefully.
Not really if we are in the relegation zone when it matters he goes but we won’t be.
The problem is, statements like this are now seen to be something positive about. Anyone would think we're plucky minnows adjusting to a new league.
He’s so fecking shit. I can’t fathom how people are still defending him, but what I do know is that they use non-footballing reasons and deflective tactics to do so.
I wondered what your take would be on this. You can’t comment on any of the positives because they weren’t any, so you resort to childish sarcasm.
Ah well then he should be manager of United indefinitely. Never to be sacked.
Oh i understand what you mean. Yeah you're right, the EL performances, you can give him some leeway sure but the very defensive setups and scared mentality we show regardless of opponent deeply alarms me.
Ole changed and become extremely conservative the moment he got the permanent job to me. He went from not caring about the safety of his job to being extremely conscious of it. The slightest thing goes against the team and we become scared and retreat into our shell. It's strange how he got this reputation of being an attacking manager when the performances show the complete opposite.
In his current scared mentality, i don't see how he can turn it around. Watching the matches, it's like he's lost all hope and belief in himself to be honest. I wish he would realise if he carries on this way, he's going to inevitably get sacked, so i do wish he would just embrace it and go for it instead.
Says the “keep him whatever he does” merchant. Laughable.
What’s wrong with being positive after a win?
Fair enough, we'll have to wait and see if he manages to turn it around.
The one thing i will say is, i wish he would realise that if he carries on with this scared, conservative mentality, he's bound to be sacked... so i do wish he would just embrace it and go for it instead.
I think you missed the point mate. I followed up my sarcasm post with a sarcastic post against the same poster. Deary me. Past your bedtime is it?The irony
Better than your delusional bias tbh. He summed us up perfectly in one word. You keep seeing what you want to see. As I said, pure and utter delusion.
Agreed, your taking about releasing the hand brakes.
I’m sure he will once he has a fully fit team, do you really think he wants united to be playing this way or wants to long term?
Ed Woodward has played an absolute blinder here.
He’s playing the Ole In crowd like absolute fiddles.
He knew that Ole could be literally the worst manager currently working in the English Leagues, and the “true reds” would still be backing his appointment.
He literally can do no wrong. Literally nothing is negative to them.
They have lower standards than Huddersfield fans who were just simply happy having even one season in the PL, never mind two.
We could be hovering around mid table in league one and they’d still be insisting it’s a process and it’s all the previous three manager’s fault and not his at all.
He’s playing the Ole In crowd like absolute fiddles.
He knew that Ole could be literally the worst manager currently working in the English Leagues, and the “true reds” would still be backing his appointment.
He literally can do no wrong. Literally nothing is negative to them.
They have lower standards than Huddersfield fans who were just simply happy having even one season in the PL, never mind two.
We could be hovering around mid table in league one and they’d still be insisting it’s a process and it’s all the previous three manager’s fault and not his at all.
Delusional bias to a united legend managing united? I’m sorry.
Because its call fair assessment. You judge them by same standard. If this set up not good enough under LVG/Jose, why should we lowering our standard just for Ole? His capacity is a manager now, not a legend player, something which you failed to understand.
We all already lowering our standard. Majority of Ole's out camps just wants to see improvement in gameplays. How hard it is really? having a distinctive style of play should be doable regardless of the squad. We should be able to create chances regularly. That just a little thing actually let alone win big with style. Why is it an exception for Ole? The squad is poor, Woodward not helping, injuries, hard away games, so many excuse that exactly the same as former managers.
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Don't say it loud. Anyone who is not in consonance with the Ole in band is labeled am idiot who is a fair weather fan and not loving the club whereas they are the ones living in delusion. The kind of monumental delusion our rivals perpetually hope we don't snap out from.
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