There are some quite sane and rational comments today. It looks like there is a full spectrum of attitudes towards Ole. At one end, those that will never give him credit even if we start winning and playing better. At the other end, those who will defend him even if we end up in a relegation battle (prizes for the first to say “we are already in one”). If I ask myself honestly, I’m more or less at the latter extreme. I’ve seen and heard enough to back Ole to the bitter end. At this point I appreciate I’m in the minority with that but I certainly did not feel this way under our previous three managers. I really think Ole is the man for tackling the biggest issue - the club culture. That means more to me than winning (although winning would be frickin’ welcome).
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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What was that quote for though? I still don't get it.
Ole is looking really rough in this interview on Sky. Looks like he’s aged 10 years since he took the job on.
Or maybe there are people in the world who says what they think even if that contradicts their 'agenda' (since they have no agenda whatsoever). Oh well
There are. That ain't you.
There's always a tipping point with managers where they become beyond salvation and subsequently get credit for nothing. Clearly Ole's there. I thought the tactics were pretty much spot on and those players were clearly giving everything. I'm unconvinced he's the man for us but if we get a return like that every week, I'll stay with him.
My point was that the team that Ole inherited from Mourinho was poor as Mourinho himself admitted. Problems will take time to fix.
The Manchester United seems to do that to a manager.
Moyes, Van Gaal and Mourinho were all looking like that before long.
That's the thing with Ole, plays well against teams coming at us who allow us to catch them on the break. It's against 80% of the league that let us come at them that he struggles.
Was impressed with the move to a 3-4-3 because now we have ball players in defense and it cancelled out our weaknesses in midfield and attack. If we keep at it with Shaw, Pogba and Martial back I think it could be the start of something good especially with the run of away matches come.
I'm glad he stopped Liverpool's winning run. Hoping we can now go on one.
Well you will be surprised how many times I admitted that I was wrong in here. Honestly I wish to be proven wrong in every negative argument I made. Unfortunately It rarely happened at least in the past 8 years or so
Oh ffs. You lot don't like Ole and want him gone. Fine. But at least give the guy some credit for outdoing Klopp and ending Liverpool's near record breaking winning run.
He knows what fans want to hear, isn't he?
And no, he is not better than Moyes. Moyes is level above this "coach"
As good as his initial tactics were in first half they were as bad in second. Liverpool were awful and he invited them back into the game. Point is a decent result in some ways but it’s only continuing his terrible run and widens gap to top 4.
Ole’s negative tactics suit these games against the big teams, away to Norwich will be more daunting fixture.
Ole’s negative tactics suit these games against the big teams, away to Norwich will be more daunting fixture.
OK.
If you say so
Yes they will take time, unfortunately I don't think Ole is even close to being a part of the solution.
I mean, you must know how that sounds right, particularly from someone with your reputation. There's a reason you got that tagline.
Totally agree with this. I would have taken a 1-1 before kick off, and the fact that we actually played well and deserved a bit more than a draw is a bonus. I don't think we are that far away from being a decent team. Martial, Shaw and Pogba will likely make our starting line up stronger so plenty to look forward to.
Today really exposes it. No fair minded person would be critical of Ole today. Yet here we are.
I've been finding it all a bit strange. I understand it on Twitter where many will say whatever shite will get them likes and follows. Negativity always gains traction on social media. But it makes less sense on a football forum. Perhaps it's a spill over from people spending too much time on these other social media channels.
Today was decent. Ole did well and the players gave everything they had. Tactics were spot on and allowed us to carry about 4 players who aren't good enough to be United players and yet still almost beat the best team in Europe on current form. Not sure what more we could have hoped for.
He did what most lower to mid tables team do, but he did it with a better squad than them. That's why we came close to nicking the win. Anyway you can call it a great tactical display but to me it is just a case of Ole having no bottle whatsoever when he decided to give up all chances for a second goal by letting Liverpool have 75-80% of the ball for 45 mins.
I don't care about tags and other BS else I would deduce that you are some horse whisperer. Anyway I said what I had to say and as promised to the mods I won't be engaging in any spat with you anytime soon. Tara
Really think 3-5-2 can work for us with Pogba behind Martial and Rashford. Also allows us to play Axel at the back.
Our first 11 is decent but the drop off when anyone is missing the is huge. It will only get solved through good recruitment.
Happy with what they managed to do today. They look like a very commited group of players at least. You won't get much more out of those players than that.
Very content with today’s result. A step in the right direction for sure.
Job security off the strength of a draw. Manchester United.
Seriously? Look at our form since the last 6 months.
Effort and how we were set up today should be a standard not one off occasion.
Right on the contrary - with proper motivation, coaching and guidance these players can perform certainly better than the 13th position we are in and that's not problem with recruitment.
He’s tactically awful isn’t he. Just stopped a team battering everyone on their winning run, he’s clueless doesn’t know what he’s doing
He's probably bought himself a few more losses now, though. That's what I'm afraid of - another slew of dropped points against lesser teams, then suddenly he ekes out a win over Chelsea in the EFL Cup and the 'reset' button is pressed again.
Rumour going around at the moment that regardless of someone views, if they send feet pics to the mods they get instantly promoted.
Been on the wagon of he is just not a good enough coach but, today and maybe it was playing against Liverpool that shocked him into it but, he took stock of the personnel he had and set them up to succeed. Not saying this is the formation going forward but, the fact that he chose to not be stubborn and delusional, there might be hope for him.
Some of his post match comments stood out
1) When asked about when did he decide on the setup and he said after international break and who was available, that we have a good set of center backs and we could use width from Young and AWB - something that was apparent before this game but, some how didn't use it.
2) That he felt sorry for Rashford when he is isolated and being gobbled up by defenders recently, that giving him a partner and letting him play more in the channels and getting in behind to play more to his strengths - at least now maybe realizes he has to start thinking more how to best use who has rather than trying to stuff them into a singular way of playing
3) Mentioned the videos they worked on for movement in the box for Rashford, something that has been clearly missing, so again to me the signs been looking for to say what are they actually coaching back there.
4) Talked about all the runs Rashford makes but, he's not been getting the ball played, so hopefully being drilled into the players to be more mindful.
It's going to be interesting to see though if he falls right back to thinking playing any of our current #10 options is a good idea, which its clearly not. Today was a good day for him. He needs to build on that.
Some of his post match comments stood out
1) When asked about when did he decide on the setup and he said after international break and who was available, that we have a good set of center backs and we could use width from Young and AWB - something that was apparent before this game but, some how didn't use it.
2) That he felt sorry for Rashford when he is isolated and being gobbled up by defenders recently, that giving him a partner and letting him play more in the channels and getting in behind to play more to his strengths - at least now maybe realizes he has to start thinking more how to best use who has rather than trying to stuff them into a singular way of playing
3) Mentioned the videos they worked on for movement in the box for Rashford, something that has been clearly missing, so again to me the signs been looking for to say what are they actually coaching back there.
4) Talked about all the runs Rashford makes but, he's not been getting the ball played, so hopefully being drilled into the players to be more mindful.
It's going to be interesting to see though if he falls right back to thinking playing any of our current #10 options is a good idea, which its clearly not. Today was a good day for him. He needs to build on that.
The wife and I genuinely couldn’t remember the last time we won on the walk home. It’s back to 2 wins in 11 again!
Agreed. We're seeing this sort of doublethink from the same posters, too. They post until they are blue in the face that our transfer dealings have been woeful and that this is the worst squad they've ever seen, but complain about a draw with a team coming off the back of 17 straight wins in the Premier League.
Can't believe the level of moaning after we were a few minutes away from beating the best team in the league and stopping their winning form
Its getting pathetic really. People seem to forget these are the CL winners and they are in terrifying form at the moment. Considering the state of our squad and all the injuries a draw is not a bad result. I think deep down many of these miserable plonkers are actually dissapointed we did not get beat 0-5
"I’m going to try and get a job like Ole has, and speak all the time about the future." - A still salty Jose.
Does he have a point or pure bitterness?
Does he have a point or pure bitterness?
I am critical of him for losing the plot. By around the 80 min mark everyone can see that our players were running on empty tanks.
What did he do? Bring on Martial for Rashford. I was dreading that he may bring on Mata . I don't have a big issue about that change but I do have issues that he didn't take off Fred and bring in even Jones.
It was there that we eventually conceded. The players were dead on their feet. He doesn't know how to analyze a match while it's going on and how to bring in subs to switch the equilibrium to us.
What did he do? Bring on Martial for Rashford. I was dreading that he may bring on Mata . I don't have a big issue about that change but I do have issues that he didn't take off Fred and bring in even Jones.
It was there that we eventually conceded. The players were dead on their feet. He doesn't know how to analyze a match while it's going on and how to bring in subs to switch the equilibrium to us.
Both. If he wasn't a self-destructing prick he might have survived until the summer.
It's more how we do against Norwich and Bournemouth away for me.
Ole did the best set up he could with the injuries and squad depth, the occasion is one for the players to get behind but can we get the season on track with 4-6 points out of the next two league games?
Ole did the best set up he could with the injuries and squad depth, the occasion is one for the players to get behind but can we get the season on track with 4-6 points out of the next two league games?
Wonder if he'll stick to the 352 formation? Always good have two up top, especially when you're struggling for goals.
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