Ole seems to be risk averse overall, with his football and signings. Appears like he's so worried about getting it wrong rather than taking the chance and getting it right. Quite odd too, SAF was a huge risk taker, that was one of his best qualities.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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How we got Cantona. Ole would have said no thanks!!
I was just looking through his signings at Cardiff:
Mats Mohler Daelhi (ex United/Molde)
Magnus Wolff Eikrem (ex United/Molde)
Wilfred Zaha on loan (ex United)
Fabio (ex United)
Jo Inge-Berget (ex Molde)
Federico Macheda (ex United)
Our most recent coaching addition is an ex United youth academy, Cardiff and Molde coach.
Worrying stuff. Clearly lacks ideas when it comes to acquiring talent. Perhaps that's the reason we've been sticking to the British players. He at least realised signing ex United youth players and Molde players wasn't going to cut it at United.
Mats Mohler Daelhi (ex United/Molde)
Magnus Wolff Eikrem (ex United/Molde)
Wilfred Zaha on loan (ex United)
Fabio (ex United)
Jo Inge-Berget (ex Molde)
Federico Macheda (ex United)
Our most recent coaching addition is an ex United youth academy, Cardiff and Molde coach.
Worrying stuff. Clearly lacks ideas when it comes to acquiring talent. Perhaps that's the reason we've been sticking to the British players. He at least realised signing ex United youth players and Molde players wasn't going to cut it at United.
Yes, given a budget of the total amount of 7,5 millions trying to keep that shower of shait up, he sure lacked ideas.. Think you need a new drum! Been beating the same negative shait for a long long time now.
Given I criticised him for signing Magnus Wolff Eikrem and your username is Wolff, I'm not going to engage in a debate with you. Good luck at your new club.
Can't add anymore than already said but what I do know, I'm right back to feeling the same watching Utd as I did under Moyes, LVG, Jose.....
Injuries have definitely effected us, but it shouldn’t have thrown the whole system in trouble.
the idea of pressing from the front was going to be impossible without a front 4 of martial, rashford, James, Lingard. The rest of the squad behind it can’t do it.
the worrying thing for me is we still look clueless in terms of the basics on the pitch. We don’t play 1-2s, we don’t play triangles and don’t do third man runs. We come narrow far too early instead of staying wide, waiting for an overlap and then cutting inside.
we just rely on individual talent and his comments about being unlucky isn’t really what we want to hear. I hope he knows deep down it isn’t good enough, rather than feeling hard done by.
the idea of pressing from the front was going to be impossible without a front 4 of martial, rashford, James, Lingard. The rest of the squad behind it can’t do it.
the worrying thing for me is we still look clueless in terms of the basics on the pitch. We don’t play 1-2s, we don’t play triangles and don’t do third man runs. We come narrow far too early instead of staying wide, waiting for an overlap and then cutting inside.
we just rely on individual talent and his comments about being unlucky isn’t really what we want to hear. I hope he knows deep down it isn’t good enough, rather than feeling hard done by.
Not sure many engage with a debate with you either. Just pointing out the obvious..
Really hoping the bit in bold doesn't happen.
I don't see how it's obvious to sign a load of crap players from your ex clubs just because you have transfer budget limitations.
The argument is that he's a great spotter of talent. There's zero evidence for that and plenty to suggest he lacks ideas in the transfer market.
That quote in the tweet above
We're really getting better over time aren't we? He's deluded.
He's starting to scare me.
There's nothing wrong with those quotes.
Same here.
People are just spinning it negatively in their heads and running with it.
Me too! Every time he opens his mouth for a while now, there's been nothing of any substance that makes you think that he has any idea how to turn this around. In fact it's the complete opposite isn't it?
Everything revolves around improving players' fitness when he's almost 10 months into the job, come on, it's beyond a joke now. When's the actual coaching coming..?
He's starting to resemble a parody figure which scares the bejeebers out of me.
I think there is lots wrong with them. Why is he asking for time? 7 months of tanking is a lot of time to be tanking and the coaches at top clubs are expected to work fast. If you’re doing well then you’ll get time.
He comes across as being ridiculously out of his depth, and he surrounds himself with similarly qualified people.
I think you are taking the short cut once again mate. Trying to make it black and white. At the time Daehlie was ranked among the top talents. Don’t know what happened to Eikrem or Berget, and I’m sure you don’t either. Wilfred and Fabio we know. For me it looks like a few players on a shoestring budget. But I’m sure your spin is more correct. Daehlie is back in force after some serious injuries though, and even LVG trying to sign him at the same time. But what ever makes your hart tick, I guess..I don't see how it's obvious to sign a load of crap players from your ex clubs just because you have transfer budget limitations.
The argument is that he's a great spotter of talent. There's zero evidence for that and plenty to suggest he lacks ideas in the transfer market.
That quote in the tweet above
Edit. What about the tweet? He is honest and right. You fault him for that? A simple google search was all that took. He really took some scalps in Europa league to it seems.
Daehli was rubbish for Cardiff though and the reports on OGS were that he was like a rabbit in the headlights, not knowing what to do. Sounds very similar to how he’s working now. Nice guy but just a very average manager, one suited to managing in small leagues with no pressure.
If he starts Ashley Young today, he should be sacked 2 minutes after announcing the lineup.
Because non-local fans are spoiled morons nowadays. Local United fans with generational ties to the club are, to this day, impressively patient. I have a lot of time for them.
The irony is if globalisation of football fandom was a thing in the 80s or early 90s, the global fanbase would not be anywhere near as spoiled or impatient now - as SAF would have been (deservedly!) sacked and United would not have had anywhere near the success they did. Fans today do not like to admit that their board saved them from continued mediocrity by holding their nerve when they could have very justifiably fired SAF literally over 12 months before (by 80s standards, not by the ridiculousness today).
This is not to say Ole specifically deserves even half that patience. But the fact is that it wouldn't matter if Ole had 4 UCL's with Molde to his name - the impatience and calls for him to go would be exactly the same - as they were with LvG and Mourinho.
The reality is, global fanbases today are pathetic. Getting angry at matchgoing fans and telling them that they should be protesting or wtf ever while they are whining at the matches they watch through their illegal streams.
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Maybe they are morons but you’d probably be a moron to wait and be patient as Solksjaer took United to the bottom half of the table. He’s had the job 10 months now, he’s had 7 months of really poor performance in the job and previous record suggests that poor performance is pretty standard for him.
My buddy just told me that in the last 6 months, United only managed to score 10 goals from open play. There was also something about not scoring from corners or free kicks in 200+ days. Even with the competitions pauses, I find it nuts that he's still coaching United with this free fall going on for so long.
If Ole somehow survives this season then I think he need to change drastically
A- There is no excuses with United ending up lower then top 5. If that happens then the positive BS needs to go, friendly talks about players (Rashy) needs to end, and heads need to roll. That include players who understand man utd but also assistant managers who have no clue what is going on. United already have an inexperienced manager. They can't afford inexperienced assistants as well. Some one needs to take care of tactics as it's evident that we lack on that regard. Ffs even sir alex brought experience around him when he could
B- no more philosophy. United need to stir the ship to safely as soon as possible. We need 4 top players in midfield/forward line so we have no time to BS like players who understands the club. What we need are top quality players. It's then up to the manager to manage them as Sir Alex did with difficult characters like Ince, Keane, teves and cantona
C- unless he is going to rely on kids then he should stop mentioning them. It pointless talking about Gomes only for Mata to keep showing up. If the club isn't financially backing you then say so. You are better of being sacked with your head held high then being sacked with a reputation of being an incompetent puppet
D- You cannot keep relying on Mou and giggs players shortlist (maguire and James). Ask for a top quality DOF and head scouts and trust their judgement. Even sir Alex delegated stuff.
A- There is no excuses with United ending up lower then top 5. If that happens then the positive BS needs to go, friendly talks about players (Rashy) needs to end, and heads need to roll. That include players who understand man utd but also assistant managers who have no clue what is going on. United already have an inexperienced manager. They can't afford inexperienced assistants as well. Some one needs to take care of tactics as it's evident that we lack on that regard. Ffs even sir alex brought experience around him when he could
B- no more philosophy. United need to stir the ship to safely as soon as possible. We need 4 top players in midfield/forward line so we have no time to BS like players who understands the club. What we need are top quality players. It's then up to the manager to manage them as Sir Alex did with difficult characters like Ince, Keane, teves and cantona
C- unless he is going to rely on kids then he should stop mentioning them. It pointless talking about Gomes only for Mata to keep showing up. If the club isn't financially backing you then say so. You are better of being sacked with your head held high then being sacked with a reputation of being an incompetent puppet
D- You cannot keep relying on Mou and giggs players shortlist (maguire and James). Ask for a top quality DOF and head scouts and trust their judgement. Even sir Alex delegated stuff.
Is there a difference between Young, Rojo and Dalot?
All 3 are bang average players.
Do we have many other options at the moment?
As I have said before, I don't think it was on Ole not getting a replacement for Lukaku. I think it was Woodward who thought that his football knowledge was so good that we could survive with Rashford and Martial to replace his goals.
Agree with you that Woodward is a snake, I have said for a while that I don't think he gave Ole a good enough platform to succeed from and is willing to make Ole a scapegoat for his own mistakes instead of manning up and growing some balls. I would like to see Woodward gone or at least bring in someone with a good grasp of football knowledge to help him.
As long as the Glazer's are about I think Woodward will be about as well
Go and read his quote today. Further up here. He has admitted it was his decision and he was happy about it. Stop trying to take the blame away from our impotent Norwegian wood
W...T...F
There are stats and there are stats - and that is absolutely unbelievable. Should be sackable in and of itself.
Deserves it's own thread!
Yeah there is, one of them is a 20 year old kid, who can still offer something in attack at least. The other two are clowns.
Dalot, Tuanzebe and Williams.
Exciting times
Dalot is definitely better for the team than Young. Doesn't break down attacks by hoofing everytime. That alone makes Young a liability and it's completely unnecessary
Yeah, but they wont be only given a chance if they replace the whole team! No incoming coach expects that. They will also be expected to get the best out of what they have. And he just isnt, it doesnt feel like a blip either sadly, warning signs were there towards the end of last season.
I still can’t believe Ashley Young is our captain
Is this Manchester United or the make a wish foundation?
He is not qualified to be manager of a premier league football team yet we're supposed to make do with him?
He has no clue whatsoever what he is doing. He has no new ideas, no new methods, nothing. His genius plan involves running and if that fails, even more running.
The worst Utd manager I've ever seen in my life. Watch Steve Bruce outplay him today.
I really can't wait until he's gone.
Indeed
Even when he admitted himself that it was his decision to not replace Lukaku, I bet some will still say he is lying to the media or so.
His quotes are hardly a surprise for me because that's what I have been saying for a good time now. He's as responsible for the terrible as Woodward.
His quotes are hardly a surprise for me because that's what I have been saying for a good time now. He's as responsible for the terrible as Woodward.
If by doing the same job He means to also persist with Lingard, Rashford and McTominay to achieve greatness, We're fecked.
Not like he or us have got a choice. They are all we have at the moment sadly. Need to wait it out till January and summer windows to even look good again.
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