Journalists giving him a easy time, if this was Jose in the same form they’d be absolutely hammering him.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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Fans would've been angry but if the club actually had a plan and had confidence in what they were doing they wouldn't have listened to outside noise and appointed the right man at the end of the season. We would've still seen United go into bad form under Ole and most fans would come around to the idea that Ole isn't the right man in the long run and we should go with somebody else. Problem is the club had/has no plan or direction and just went with the popular choice at the time.
Sacking Ole won’t change a thing unless we restructure the footballing side of things and appoint a director of football etc. I also agree with the poster who suggested appointing Ole as DoF.
I also think we could be in relegation trouble, the squad is worryingly low on confidence and injuries are starting to pile up, whilst the strength of depth in the EPL is frightening with all these billionaire owners and crazy money from the TV rights.
Only them? Look at fans. More than 60% think that he should stay after all this. Remember pundits? Neville and Scholes were destroying LVG and Mourinho. Watch what they are saying now. Scholes is quiet and Neville is blaming everybody except Ole. I don't understand why is Ole this protected. Sure he is our legend, he is nice guy but he is not fecking Cantona or Becks or Giggs.
It might well be a win but it certainly won't be good.
The only positives are the way the club is tackling the culture and changing its transfer policy. But we’re in for a rough ride before things will improve I’m afraid.
Mourinho is one of most decorated managers of all him. When he took over quotes of how United will return to the big boys were all over the shop. United gave him a lot of money in his first two seasons to build the antithesis to City. In the end the results weren't special, i enjoyed him, but for most people he isn't their cup of tee.
Solskjaer is a complete different breed. He isn't demanding in the transfer market and gets a much lower salary, he always tries to give the actions on the field a positive spin in the media and will give youth players little by little more chances. He portrays United's values in public, he's in line with doing things 'the right way', 'the United way'.
A lot of fans reacted outraged during Mourinho's public outbursts. The club opted for a change and decided to bring back one of their own.
God I can’t read that shit anymore. The guy got us into relegation form. Of course it will change things if we get in a proper manager. If only to steady the ship.
Because they are friends.
Ole will still be a legend and nothing will change that. It´s nothing personal. He is just not the guy to take us forward. Still like the guy and would like it to stay that way.
Completely agree with you.
While I had to accept that it was time for Jose to go, I did say that it was a missed opportunity, for both sides.
The fact that he was so severely criticised for finishing 2nd proved the point.
I wonder how long it will be before we finish 2nd again.
Shows how deluded many are. There were more than enough that didn’t want him permanently though.
Remember 16-17, Mou winning the EL? News flash: Ole ain't gonna win the EL 2019-20.
Not scoring goals, not creating chances, a clueless midfield, a scared defense (concede one and it's over) it's not what Manchester United is about.
Ole a good manager? Ole an attacking manager? Give him some more time and it will all pay off? Christ. Enough. AllegrIN.
Not scoring goals, not creating chances, a clueless midfield, a scared defense (concede one and it's over) it's not what Manchester United is about.
Ole a good manager? Ole an attacking manager? Give him some more time and it will all pay off? Christ. Enough. AllegrIN.
He has turned full Moyes since the start of the season.
This idea that Solskjaer is absolved of all blame because we have a bad Chief Executive needs to stop. He is here over 9 months now and we have zero identity. He wasn't good enough for Cardiff City and he sure as hell isn't good enough to manage United. Our form since he was appointed permanent manager is nothing short of a disgrace.
Yeah our best chance of CL next season is winning the EL, and we've got no hope as things stand, not a chance in hell. We're going nowhere.
Why the hell would United offer a failed manager another key position at the club? That would make a farcical situation even more so. Ole is a manager ( a bad one but still a manager) not a DOF.
With the same structure we have improved from Moyes to LVG to Jose and we have regressed all the way back and even worse under Ole. Yes, structure is a problem but better managers can compensate for it. And we are not asking much out of his squad, just to beat bottom half and league one teams?. Is that too much of ask of any manager with this squad?
Also, this idea of Ole as DOF has to die for sure. I mean if we did the due diligence and had a formal process, he wouldn't even be in the top 10 of contenders. What makes him a suitable candidate, because he signed a target from last summer? or because he signed the best RB in PL last year outside the top 6?
I mean what are we going to tell the new manager?, work with the guy who sucked at your previous job?. Its laughable to even suggest that.
I need to go offline for a few days those quotes make my blood boil.
How can he sit there smiling and actually be happy with that performance.
Quit your BS Ole its embarrassing.
How can he sit there smiling and actually be happy with that performance.
Quit your BS Ole its embarrassing.From what we see, the bloke seems soft as shite and as about as tough as a new born puppy. I just can't take him seriously.
You wonder who is advising on transfers. Some of the reasons we haven't signed players.
He runs a bit funny.
His dad is fat.
His pass rate is not good enough, for someone who scores goals and gets loads of assists. As though any of our present players can actually pass the fecking ball.
Posters say this as if it's accepted wisdom but it's rubbish. Look at the PL table - let's just pretend we found a manager who was able to get a bit extra out of this team (which we know is possible) and has a bit of tactical nous. Most of our games have been very winnable and the usual suspects bar Pool and City have been off colour, we could have definitely been top four given, even with our atrocious form, we're only 3 points off. it doesn't have to be spectacular this season but it needs to be better than this.
I don't think it was wrong to go with him as an interim, it was stupid to give him a permanent contract though and stupid, post PSG, to stick with him.
He reached lvl10 on a Moyes scale
If ole and carrick were in an elevator, who would walk out first?
I don't know, but the next manager will be in for one hell of a culture shock when he arrives at the club and slowly begins to realise just how bad this squad truly is - like Ole before him. I honestly think it could be one of the worst United squads ever assembled.
I don't think it matters who takes charge of the team at this stage of the season. We look like a genuine run-of-the-mill midtable outfit. Scary.
Bring back Tommy Doc.
I'm a rarity on a football forum, I'm someone who is more than happy to admit he was wrong. Anytime, any place. It's a completely normal thing for an adult human being to do - change an opinion based on evidence.
I felt Ole had earned the chance to have the reigns full-time but was unsure about the timing of the decision - it should have waited until the summer. That being said, I felt he deserved a shot and things couldn't get worse than previous managers. The vibe at least felt good.
I was very, very wrong. He isn't the man for the job, based on the evidence he's provided me with. I have changed my mind. I think he needs to be fired.
With all due respect to AZ, I refuse to believe that their players are on a different level than ours technically. I was envious of the football they played at times, passing between the lines, movement, courage on the ball.
Is this a good United squad? No. Is this a squad that can compete for titles? No. Are we as bad as our recent showings? Absolutely not.
Lampard has been at Chelsea for 3 months and you can already see what he's trying to achieve. I don't see that with Ole unfortunately.
The best thing I can hope for now is that he gets rid of a few players and signs some young talented players, but we need someone else to take these players to the next level IMO.
I had my doubts when he was appointed as permanent manager, once it happened I was desperate for him to succeed because it's Ole but I just don't see it unfortunately.
Is this a good United squad? No. Is this a squad that can compete for titles? No. Are we as bad as our recent showings? Absolutely not.
Lampard has been at Chelsea for 3 months and you can already see what he's trying to achieve. I don't see that with Ole unfortunately.
The best thing I can hope for now is that he gets rid of a few players and signs some young talented players, but we need someone else to take these players to the next level IMO.
I had my doubts when he was appointed as permanent manager, once it happened I was desperate for him to succeed because it's Ole but I just don't see it unfortunately.
It was a shocking time and many on here realized that even back then. And how about Blanc if you try the ex player route. But not a guy that relegated Cardiff.
Or alternately, we get someone competent in who'll bring in an actual style and train his players to commit to that philosophy. We make football seem like its so difficult to grasp. It really isn't. Right now, we don't even know the basics of the game. Pass and move, Ole! Tell them to pass and fecking move!!
If only we had you in charge mate. We'd be alright wouldn't we.
Even Arsenals youngsters who've "never played together" beat a shit team 4-0 yet we couldn't even muster a fecking shot on target.
Looks like it's real.
The man is literally Moyes 2.0
How the feck did we appoint another clueless manager....
Reminds me of something my dad said after Jose was sacked last year.
Get Ron Atkinson in, he'll sort these soft lads out.
Bless him
Even Keano going soft on him.
When did Neville destroy Mourinho and when was the last time you heard Scholes say anything?
Regardless of what kind of issues you have with him, you shouldnt call him names, there should be some respect for what he is done for us as player and his legendary status.
Also we should separate Ole as player from Ole the manager but in both cases no need to call him all kinds names but thats just me.
Also find it funny how tolerance level of some posters changed from JM days when they werent so aggressive towards him even when things went really bad, it was all about support, then some drivel and brainwash sheep mentality.
Also we should separate Ole as player from Ole the manager but in both cases no need to call him all kinds names but thats just me.
Also find it funny how tolerance level of some posters changed from JM days when they werent so aggressive towards him even when things went really bad, it was all about support, then some drivel and brainwash sheep mentality.
Its true, thats exactly something Moyes would say.
He must think he is still coaching Molde
With "spectacular results" I meant challenging for the title against City/Liverpool.
Sure, someone else might get 2-3 points out of the first 7 games so we're up there with Arsenal (who are complaining just as much) and West Ham for whatever reason. Getting players to score penalties should do the trick.
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