I'm just sick of Young
You and me both buddy. Let's hope we sort it in the summer.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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You and me both buddy. Let's hope we sort it in the summer.
Well, let's just be patient then
The end is nearChrist, you say how you have issue with certain thing/s and you instant being marked as a moaner, drama queen, spoiled brat, impatient kid etc.
What, thinking you are total opposite of that makes you levitate above rest of us.
What, thinking you are total opposite of that makes you levitate above rest of us.
I simply don’t expect a more assured performance under any of our previous three managers
Considering his options he wasn't outdone tactically. He actually had a patched up side outplaying Barca for large stretches. We were about 15 points from Champions League places and facing an impossible PSG tie when he took over now we are still in the quarters (a 2-1 win and we are through) and right in the hunt for 4th (or 3rd) whilst managing three failed managers players.
Perspective.
Perspective.
We can never know if the mentality showed in first 15 mins was the plan itself to park the bus play on the counter, but apart from those and one poor sub, his tactics was spot on to give Barcelona a good game.
Needs to work with rashford and pogba a lot to improve them. Martial could have started too but this front three are so on and off its tough to choose between the three.
There is no choice but to play Ashley young there. If darmian is for for second leg he needs to play.
Needs to work with rashford and pogba a lot to improve them. Martial could have started too but this front three are so on and off its tough to choose between the three.
There is no choice but to play Ashley young there. If darmian is for for second leg he needs to play.
Well, of course loosing is never good but you're expecting us to get a result vs Barca? Having no shots on target is not due to lack of intention of attacking (like under jose) but lack of quality up front, if we have 0 shots on target where we sat back then yes i'd be pissed like many times under jose but tonight, we attacked barca but clearly lacked quality. Of course we need to improve but you cannot shit on anyone by claiming that was like under jose which it clearly wasn't and the ones who think this was anything like under jose, those people need to take a memory test or something because they've most likely lost part of their life when jose was manager.
I am not sure what you were expecting vs Barca, did you expect us to dominate possession and run circles around Barca with some of our players? Are people really that Naive that they think we should of went toe to toe with Barca, have we turned into some sort of great footballing side under 3 months with the same players who even right now cannot cross/pass/shoot but somehow they're expected to go toe to toe with the likes of Messi/Racist/Coutinho and their midfield.
People keep insisting on "zero shots on target" but it's not a tactical issue that Rashford shoots the ball to the clouds inside the box, to name one example. We tried to play it clean from the back many times, reached their box time and time again but we lack a lot of class in the ending product. We had double attempts than Barcelona in the end according to stats but they need half to get double prize.
Watching this team I think there's a big margin to improve both on individual and collective sense, and I feel Ole and the current staff have the right ambitions and mentality to drive the team forward. For sure he will make mistakes as nobody is perfect, but honestly I think it's difficult to ask for more in less time, taking over in December a depressed and poorly coached team, and being demanded immediate results and good performances without any margin to mould the squad.
The man is trying to survive and get results in any possible way and based on numbers he's doing it fine. The step down in last weeks it's noticeable with the game against Waford at home being a total mess. But even without the brilliance of his first games I think we deserved something more against Arsenal, Wolves (league game) and today. We're not that bad as a team, but the players need to be more accurate.
Watching this team I think there's a big margin to improve both on individual and collective sense, and I feel Ole and the current staff have the right ambitions and mentality to drive the team forward. For sure he will make mistakes as nobody is perfect, but honestly I think it's difficult to ask for more in less time, taking over in December a depressed and poorly coached team, and being demanded immediate results and good performances without any margin to mould the squad.
The man is trying to survive and get results in any possible way and based on numbers he's doing it fine. The step down in last weeks it's noticeable with the game against Waford at home being a total mess. But even without the brilliance of his first games I think we deserved something more against Arsenal, Wolves (league game) and today. We're not that bad as a team, but the players need to be more accurate.
I think Ole knows Young isn’t good enough mate. But our options are vastly limited. We could play Dalot there and his time will come.I'm just sick of Young
Solskjaer isn’t stupid - he’ll know who isn’t good enough.
Sorry, none of that here.
I think that Ole said to them; play like we played against PSG. Stay back, give them ball and play on counters.No I didnt say that. We started like that cause its Barcelona, you dont go toe to toe with them from the start. Took us a bit to catch the game and maybe Barcelona taking the foot of the pedal helped but after that we were pretty good I thought.
What do you think that Ole said to them dont pass, dont get the ball, just chase shadows?
Also Lingard who always plays didn't start tonight again.
But Lingard still was key substitution
I hope so, this summer will be huge and will give us a clearer view of who OGS truly rates or not. We need to spend big
So? He still doesn't play all the time. Who would you sub in?I think that Ole said to them; play like we played against PSG. Stay back, give them ball and play on counters.
But Lingard still was key substitution
If Ole said that to them he said the right thing.
Huh? Yeah, it worked great.
fecking hell, we lost 1-0 to a side with the best player in the world and a side that are extremey likely to win the Champions League. Perspective.
Jesus..
Anything he does you'll going to criticize it, right?
I mean what would you do, go toe to toe with them, open game?
And if he did that and we'd concede a few it would be wrong too.
I mean ok, we didnt get Poch but dont try to find literally anything to criticize him for. Generally we had a good game, were on par if not better in some parts of the game.
Ole got his tactics spot on tonight. There's no criticism of Ole, except maybe for the inclusion of Young, however, he set out the team to do exactly what we achieve tonight. The only issue in the end was that we simply lack quality, or the necessary quality to turn a good performance into a winning performance in these type of games.
I have to criticize him for playing his favourites no matter what. Young, Rashford and Matic though I expect McTominay is making it impossible for him to be dropped.
Young plays no matter what even playing right side CB in a back 3 when we have actual CBs available. Today Dalot went off instead of Young who was stinking up the game for the full 90 mins. Rashford plays no matter what despite being in poor form. Today he stays on whilst Rom gets subbed. Matic rushed back and stuck into the Arsenal game after injury despite McTominay being in excellent form on the back of a worldie performance vs PSG.
He has to be more ruthless with his favoured players.
Young plays no matter what even playing right side CB in a back 3 when we have actual CBs available. Today Dalot went off instead of Young who was stinking up the game for the full 90 mins. Rashford plays no matter what despite being in poor form. Today he stays on whilst Rom gets subbed. Matic rushed back and stuck into the Arsenal game after injury despite McTominay being in excellent form on the back of a worldie performance vs PSG.
He has to be more ruthless with his favoured players.
It was a decent performance bar Young and a shaky Lindelof. Oles subs are questionable though. Rash was clearly not at it, Rom comes off and we still tend to go long ball - it just made no sense.
Young stinking up the place, could have sent Dalot over to the right and leave Shaw give width out left, especially in the 20 minute run in.
It’s the little things that can make or break a tight game. He can’t have favorites like Jose done.
Young stinking up the place, could have sent Dalot over to the right and leave Shaw give width out left, especially in the 20 minute run in.
It’s the little things that can make or break a tight game. He can’t have favorites like Jose done.
I can only assume I've been watching a different set of players over the last few years if people think they are suddenly good enough to compete with Barca, and if they don't it's because of the manager.
Total attempts: United 10, Barcelona 5.
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsl...2/match=2027152/statistics/index.html?iv=true
"Blah blah Solskjaer this and that, zero shots on target."
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsl...2/match=2027152/statistics/index.html?iv=true
"Blah blah Solskjaer this and that, zero shots on target."
I think ole has the right ideas but the quality lets us down unfortunately
He doesn’t have favourites. He’s picking the best available for the team.
That’s a long way off from ‘the best’ there is or Utd standard
quality but I’m sure he’s aware of the limitations of the squad
His favorite is leaving the likes of Rashford and Young on when they clearly are not at the races (or good enough in Young’s case). He trusts them but if isn’t your night, it isn’t your night.
1 win since PSG away. Ole at the wheel, I don't know what to feel
Ole set us up perfectly. He should be applauded for that. My sole qualm with him is a bizzare choice to take Lukaku off instead of Rashford. You can smell it from a mile away that we weren't going to create when Lukaku walked off the pitch
The thing that Poch was right choice, doesn't have anything with this. Yes, i criticize but based on what i just saw. On the other hand, you are defending him in everything. We opened game with the Jose's bus. Played 20 minutes like that. It was our plan. Wrong plan because as the game proved, we can play with Barca in open play. That start of the game cost us.Jesus..
Anything he does you'll going to criticize it, right?
I mean what would you do, go toe to toe with them, open game?
And if he did that and we'd concede a few it would be wrong too.
I mean ok, we didnt get Poch but dont try to find literally anything to criticize him for. Generally we had a good game, were on par if not better in some parts of the game.
What could happened if he went with 424, 433, without Young, with Romero, with Jones...i don't know. It is all if this, if that.
He decided to play like this and it was bad choice
And no. I will praise him for good things and criticize for bad things. Like any player, coach or board member.
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I have a very strong feeling it will be Liverpool that will win it. Just feels like a season when they will win something. Ciity the league and Liverpool the champions league is my prediction right now.
Although Klopp messing it up in the final again would be funny!
He also has to go with who could step in for Young at present. I think what the coaches see in training influences their selection. Bailly is even worse at RB so who does he ho for?
I’d choose a rookie over Young but I’m not a coach
I had Juve from the off and I'm sticking with them. Ronaldo will do it for them.
Away from home Liverpool won’t get lucky. They’ve played the weakest side in the UCL and should have got Salah sent off. The likes of Barca and Juve are too street wise in one off games
Who the feck else is he going to pick to go toe to toe with Barcelona
Valencia? Phil Jones get a look in
in your side?
Who are these magical players ole can conjure up in April?
This forum is absolutely mental
Yeah we have glaring weaknesses - that’s definitely not ole’s fault
Hindsight and all that
4 defeats in 5 games , Relegation form. joke
Shift over Dalot to the right and play Martial? And as bad as Phil Jones is yes I'd rather make room for him in the team than Ashley fecking Young.Who the feck else is he going to pick to go toe to toe with Barcelona
Valencia? Phil Jones get a look in
in your side?
Who are these magical players ole can conjure up in April?
This forum is absolutely mental
Yeah we have glaring weaknesses - that’s definitely not ole’s fault
Or would you rather Young play right side CB in a back 3 over, you know, an actual CB in Jones?
And this is it. Ole cannot give certain man extra qualities. He set them up well enough- maybe the 3CB was a bit confusing to get to grips with at the start and we conceded whilst the players were still adjusting to the change but there's not much else to complain about. He needs to drop Young though. This nightmare must end.
My early prediction from September was Juventus vs Liverpool final with a win for Juventus.
I just feel Liverpool got so much luck, momentum and everything so they will be hard to stop. I still think City will win the league since they are ahead, but Liverpool will be hard to stop from reaching the final right now. City vs Liverpool final could still happen.
Also Juventus has not impressed me when I have watched them recently apart from that win over Atletico so I can see them being knocked out before the final. Although Ronaldo can always step up and win it though.
They scored and that's why we played vs them in open play cause they backed of a bit. Sorry but you're totally on his case and whatever he does you criticize him, even when we have a generally good game, a game which most people though we'll get destroyed. Jones suddenly is the answer, guy he shouldnt renew with? Without Young? Sure but who, Darmian?
Why Romero? If he started with those I think you'd find that wrong too.
Our start didnt cost us, we werent under some immense pressure, it was a mistake in defense whicb can happen however you play.
Its just weird here, everyody was about our asses being handled to them and now it didnt happen new problem is how we didnt beat them or start with going toe to toe with them. I guess we should do that there? I mean we have good enough players for it....
I'm not defending him in anything, Young should have been subbed of and Martial maybe subbed in earlier. You say you praise him for good thing. Well honestly havent seen it at all.
you know we played barca right?
Regarding our attack it is true we lack top quality on the level of Messi, Hazard, Ronaldo, Neymar, Mbappe, Aguero.
Although we don't seem to have too much of a plan to create chances apart from counter attacks and quick passes into space. Crossing, quick short passing, dribblings into certain areas etc seem to be things we don't plan to do with method and ideas. We often just pass it around with few ideas and in the end put some poor crosses into areas with few attackers. Martial always dribbles, but we don't seem to have a method to give it to him in the right areas etc. Pogba and Lingard likes to link up with short passing moves, but the runs don't seem to be coordinated enough.
Hopefully Ole will work more on this. I feel that Liverpool, City and Spurs do it much better than us. Even Arsenal got better ideas while Chelsea pass it around too much without proper penetration a lot.
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