We should have more points from those performances. Some of our players are Everton-standard or below, you're right.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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We should have more points from those performances. Some of our players are Everton-standard or below, you're right.
Allegri or Big Sam.
Ole's problem is that he thinks Rashford and Martial are reliable, top class forwards. Both can't be relied upon to stay fit and score goals consistently. I just don't see where the goals will come from in this team.
Back him. Back him to the hilt. I have to question everyone saying get rid of him and question what sort of fan really says that at this time. We’ve had 5 managers of differing experience and qualities all before him and all have failed. Oles picked up the shit end of the stick now and has to oversee the biggest phased rebuild we’ve ever had. Let him do it. It’s going to be awful doing thru it but we will be better for it long term. The biggest issue at Man United is majority of players can’t pass a ball to a team mate 5 yards away. Or can’t play one/two touch football or can’t play with their heads up. A wage deduction system for every school boy lazy mistake would sort this bunch out but it can’t happen sadly.
No one. The problem is both the players and the manager are crap.
Don't even try, mate.. There is something seriously wrong here. People don't want world class manager like Allegri because he is "defensive" manager while we have limited and average manager who plays on counter attacks.
It's hilarious isn't it. It's the same who constantly moaned when we finished 2nd and now we're even worse, they think we're playing well.
This is what Ive been saying all along. But no... He loves the club, has the clubs best interests, knows the United way etc etc..
I don’t think he does. It is blatantly obvious that they aren’t. I don’t really see why anybody would think they are, let alone a top level professional manager.
I still back him, just hope that we get a proper structure above him. If he can bed in the young players this season, then that would be a big positive.
That has been the problem for a long time, the fact that we still have not got it right is worrying. Just how many times can Woodward fail before we get a DOF in.
That has been the problem for a long time, the fact that we still have not got it right is worrying. Just how many times can Woodward fail before we get a DOF in.
Meanwhile we are here talking about how Ole wants to play this and that. And based on that he should get season or two.
Is Allegri a world class manager? Its not unfair to suggest that United shouldn't play the brand of football Allegri offers, you said there are lots of managers that could replace Ole, do you have any other suggestions?Don't even try, mate.
I haven’t looked at the table, I just can’t bring myself to look at it. We have to back Ole and cheer the lads on as much as possible, it’s the bastards in the boardroom that deserve our venom.
If we had a true system or identity, we wouldn’t have to rely on Pogba taking on 3 players.
That's the problem. Woodward has been the only consistent player during our 6 years of mediocrity. He doesn't have what it takes to make football related decisions here or anywhere else. He has to go.
what a shit situation. poor squad with a terrible, out of his depth, manager that fans are willing to give all kinds of breaks to due to emotional attachment.
He needs to be more ruthless during games, be more proactive with changes instead of how passive he's being with everything. Takes way too long for every sub and refuses to change systems during games. A perfect example was today. They get the red, Greenwood should INSTANTLY be coming on for McTominay or Lindelof, and we switch to a 442 with Greenwood next to Rashford. It's a no brainer sub. Instead he waited 10 minutes for the sub but kept system the same. Like he's too worried about doing a dramatic change when the game is in the balance.
As well as this, he also really needs to light a fire up the players ass. No urgency. Too casual. I have sympathy for the situation he's in and I do like a good amount of what he's trying. We're going to be inconsistent because of how young our side is, I really like his transfer business that he managed to do, though of course hes hamstrung by woody and the board not fully supporting him/not managing to do what they should have. Also given our squad make up, its understandable that it'll take a bit of time to integrate the youth fully, but as a result, I think itll look much better in general as the season goes on.
Anyway, he has his faults, nobody is expecting him to be amazing, but I do think he has us going in the right direction for now. Saying that, needs to just be sharper in his in game management instead of being so passive.
As well as this, he also really needs to light a fire up the players ass. No urgency. Too casual. I have sympathy for the situation he's in and I do like a good amount of what he's trying. We're going to be inconsistent because of how young our side is, I really like his transfer business that he managed to do, though of course hes hamstrung by woody and the board not fully supporting him/not managing to do what they should have. Also given our squad make up, its understandable that it'll take a bit of time to integrate the youth fully, but as a result, I think itll look much better in general as the season goes on.
Anyway, he has his faults, nobody is expecting him to be amazing, but I do think he has us going in the right direction for now. Saying that, needs to just be sharper in his in game management instead of being so passive.
Erm...do we have other strikers available that the rest of us don't know about?
With Lampard taking over at Chelsea, I'm not giving up on OGS, now way! Ole has the life experience to inspire a much needed new generation.
You lost me here. For what exactly is manager responsible then?
His form since he got the job has been disastrous, completely fecked it.
So let’s replace him with one of the greatest coaches of the modern era in mourinho. Tried that and that failed. Experience in LVG- didn’t work. Premiership seasoned Moyes- didn’t work.
Whilst even I accept Oles coaching credentials may or may not be as regarded as some one like Hodgson who’s been a coach since the 70’s, there’s far more to it than that as the previous great coaches proved. We are rotten to the core mate the players need to wake up and earn the huge wages that take home each week
Agreed, the problem is that the ones who can decide that is probably the Glazers themselves, and I have no hope in them.
Except it is going better for Frank at the moment.
I’m not sure if OGS has the ideas and capability to lead us out of this quagmire. But I am certain that this current squad is far worse than any that Moyes, LVG or Mourinho had to work with. He won’t get to prove anything with this lot.
This windows cull was quite comprehensive, but lack of like for like replacements has left us dramatically short of quality and experience.
Bissaka is still a kid finding his way, McTominay has yet to have his ‘break out’, James is a kid making a huge step up, Rashford still only 21.
And we have teenagers who should only be in league cup squads regularly getting PL bench places.
Have never known anything like this at a club with elite ambition. Our competitors must think we are quite mad.
Agree with everything you say and I would like to see Gomes, Garner, Greenwood and Chong get more playing time.
We had two that we have sold because apparently we are happy with our current options and no replacements.
Ole put his eggs in that basket. He had a whole summer to identify attacking targets.
Honestly, any other PL manager probably. There was a reason why he failed in Cardiff and went back to Molde without having offers to stay in England.
If anyone believes we are a top 4 club then I am more worried about them than the club itself.
1. There are literally thousands of better coaches than Solksjaer in World footy
2. Mourinho actually won trophies here
So who out of the players we sold or were not playing today do you miss or would be better?
Why is there not a poll on this thread?
Certainly not after half a season...
It's zero sense to sack him. It's his team and he favors youngsters. So give me this entire year so see how it works out.
A new manager without a proper transfer window is a 100% disaster.
A new manager without a proper transfer window is a 100% disaster.
Hodgson most certainly didn't out fox him at all, Palace were a defensive error/penalty scored/De Gea mistake away from not winning the game. All of those elements were on the players not the coaches. Hodgson's game plan was to play for a 0-0 like he did last season when he faced Mourinho and lucked out due to the above
Why the feck should the Molde manager be in charge of the rebuild? Because he used to play for us? People need to wake up.
And a barebones of a team that you have now with many of the senior players gone and not replaced, should we pin that on him also?
Seems that Jose is the sole perpetrator for all of our woes.
With the current circus of clowns in charge? No. I’m sure he didn’t want it. An ambitious Manchester United with a clear vision, structure and strategy for the future willing to spend what it takes to return to the top should have been able to get him though.
We’ve been horrific since the PSG match, of course we can and we should be blaming Ole, just like Moyes, LvG or Jose were blamed.
That doesn’t mean its all on him, but our form since PSG would make Moyes blush out of embarrassment.
We should have kept him on as caretaker, his record since permanent boss has been a shambles.
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