Could be Jay Motty you are thinking of but that channel's constant support is becoming more and more sickening
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Could be Jay Motty you are thinking of but that channel's constant support is becoming more and more sickening
Fancams to me have become a daily reminder that by now most fans want him gone pronto and that Pete Boyle shaggers need to get a long, hard look in the mirror and get their priorities straight.
The question is why he insists on starting players who are clearly underperforming. Maguire has been terrible all season, absolutely terrible. Luke Shaw hasn’t been himself for a while now. Pogba is below par. Drop them. They can actually benefit from some time out of the spot light. We actually have good back ups there. Bailly (for me he should be a starter over Maguire anyway), Telles who we bought to challenge Shaw for that LB position and VDB who just seem to be unfairly left out.
he shouldn’t be starting the same names over and over when they clearly need a rest.
he shouldn’t be starting the same names over and over when they clearly need a rest.
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Move aside Bear Grylls and Tom Hanks, this Ole bloke is a survivor.
Yup. Why does he persist with Maguire when he's an absolute liability? Pogba should been hauled of at HT for that disgraceful performance.
Not to bothered about Conte going to Spurs, but at this rate we might as well get a caretaker
Isn't that one of the main reasons why people want him out. He has no tactics or game plan, so he needs individuals who can pull something out of the bag. Thus he goes for players with superior individual capabilities even if they are inconsistent as they are the ones who can save his hide since he cannot coach players to be better and the team to work together.
We have never been a good performing side under him. Before this season, we have been largely below part this season has taken a turn for the worse.
Our inability to control games or sustain attacks is a disgrace after three fecking years. It's fecking unacceptable that we simply don't have the ability to put teams under pressure after the kind of money spent.
Our inability to control games or sustain attacks is a disgrace after three fecking years. It's fecking unacceptable that we simply don't have the ability to put teams under pressure after the kind of money spent.
Manages by reputation rather than any authority. He is too scared to make tough calls and thats why he will never be an elite manager. Should have taken Pogba off at HT, given Rashford max 10 minutes in 2nd half to wake up but he is too afraid to upset the apple cart. More than tactics, this is the number one reason why we are so inconsistent. Players know they can get away with anything because their manager is so passive.
Anyone else see his post match interview where he said he was so proud that Cavani knocked the ball out of play when an Atalanta player was down? He even claimed we probably scored because of the karma from that. Seriously think he is on the wind up at times.
Yeah. That's what I think as well. He's built a very good side, but seems to lack the skills to wield it.
All managers have favorites, but the good ones have the sense to bench them when they are not performing.
Not only is it detrimental to performances, but its terrible for morale as well.
I mean when tactics don't matter might as well rely on karma.
Its very true. I think you're refering to Joe, or the other guy. They're all so biased I might just avoid a listen on most days.
I agree McCola is decent. Disagree with him on 352 or 343 not being the best option for us (I think its necessary to mask Oles shit coaching) but otherwise hes good to hear.
Who decides that?
On BT there were talking about Pogba and Scholes said that at Juventus he has players and a manager that was constantly on him, talking to him and getting him to concentrate and play proper football, whereas at United he doubts anybody does that. Rio even agreed and said the only person at the club that he thinks would do it is Ronaldo
I know the greenwood sub worked but the change of formation annoyed me in a way.
One injury and he changes the whole thing and goes back to the 4 2 4.
If he really believed in the 5 3 2 he'd have brought on telles and slid Shaw inside. It just feels like he changed the formation because the media told him he needed to do something after the Liverpool game.
One injury and he changes the whole thing and goes back to the 4 2 4.
If he really believed in the 5 3 2 he'd have brought on telles and slid Shaw inside. It just feels like he changed the formation because the media told him he needed to do something after the Liverpool game.
Amazing how we look even worse than last season. Truly awful. We give possession away so often and look vulnerable almost every time it happens.
We are in for several more large defeats this season.
We are in for several more large defeats this season.
This is the guy who, when we offered Ole a new contract, said that we did it because PSG will try to snap him up when we win the CL.
What type of incompetent football planner you need to be, to go and build a team on the core of McT, Fred, Matic and Pogba? Waste your budget on a winger that now is on the bench? I mean some of us we’re pointing for a lack of CDM, and many here thought it can wait. Now what do you think can it wait? Most of us are amateurs but, a manager paid millions thought that that midfield would do, that’s a sack worthy decision by itself. Absolute cluster feck.
Not to mention having a great depth but relying on 2-5 "Rooney" players. My "Rooneys" shall always play.
Still can't get my head round how shocking we are.
I almost never post but this time I really need to let out a rant for my own wellbeing. I do not know if it is Ole's intention or not, but surely hoarding so many players is a big problem for us? It seems like we are keeping all these players for no good reason. Not sure about City (who supposedly have large squad), but our squad management is really bad.
1. We have so much talent in our squad and ultimately we can only play 11 of them leaving quite a few of them unhappy or disgruntled. Especially in attack, we have got Goat, Cavani, Rashford, Greenwood, Martial, Amad, Sancho, Bruno, Lingard, Shoretire, Elanga. 11 players vying for 3 spots. Out of those 11, 9 are premier league quality. This is crazy. I don't remember Fergie managing more than 4 forwards during his tenure. How can we possibly keep them happy and motivated.
2. Having so many players on our payroll also leaves us insufficient funds to strengthen key areas such as midfield.
3. Ultimately the players talk to each other and very likely friends, with each other. Having 1-2 player unhappy might infect the dressing room negatively.
4. Limit chances of youth player coming into first team.
4. Too many options = too many choices. Not sure if it is happening with Ole now, but sometimes having too many choices can lead to indecision. Some people work better with constraints.
Either Ole doesn't know how to use them or it was never his decision to keep them hence not even using them. Ole will always be a legend in my eyes, I am really grateful for him coming in to steady the ship and building such an exciting squad. But if he doesn't know how to manage them, then get a coach who does to help him or let someone else take over.
This is first time in years that I really like the squad, in terms of talent, character, and personality there are no prima donnas, not one unlikable player. And maybe this is why so many fans are unhappy - because there is so much talent at the club and it hurts to see it wasted. /rant
1. We have so much talent in our squad and ultimately we can only play 11 of them leaving quite a few of them unhappy or disgruntled. Especially in attack, we have got Goat, Cavani, Rashford, Greenwood, Martial, Amad, Sancho, Bruno, Lingard, Shoretire, Elanga. 11 players vying for 3 spots. Out of those 11, 9 are premier league quality. This is crazy. I don't remember Fergie managing more than 4 forwards during his tenure. How can we possibly keep them happy and motivated.
2. Having so many players on our payroll also leaves us insufficient funds to strengthen key areas such as midfield.
3. Ultimately the players talk to each other and very likely friends, with each other. Having 1-2 player unhappy might infect the dressing room negatively.
4. Limit chances of youth player coming into first team.
4. Too many options = too many choices. Not sure if it is happening with Ole now, but sometimes having too many choices can lead to indecision. Some people work better with constraints.
Either Ole doesn't know how to use them or it was never his decision to keep them hence not even using them. Ole will always be a legend in my eyes, I am really grateful for him coming in to steady the ship and building such an exciting squad. But if he doesn't know how to manage them, then get a coach who does to help him or let someone else take over.
This is first time in years that I really like the squad, in terms of talent, character, and personality there are no prima donnas, not one unlikable player. And maybe this is why so many fans are unhappy - because there is so much talent at the club and it hurts to see it wasted. /rant
I was gonna post the same thing. Jordan was being managed by phil jackson who won 10 or 11 NBA championships in his career. Ronaldo is being managed by Ole.
Apart from the first 10 games, It’s been like this since Ole was appointed. Can only remember a handful of games where we have looked a decent team in the last 3 seasons.
He’s not allowed bad games….BT Sport, Sky etc make sure of that
This is why I find the whole notion of this “cultural reboot” bemusing. All we’ve done is acclimatised the club to a new level of mediocrity, and lowering of standards. Can’t believe we’re looking at qualifying out the easiest champions league group as an achievement. I’ve also began to hate the terms “DNA”, “Passion” and “Togetherness”.
The funny thing is he wanted a big squad to rotate which means when a player is not in form, you take him out. What Ole does is has a list of favourite players. Maguire, AWB, Shaw, McFred, Pogba, Bruno, Rashford and now Ronaldo.
These players play regardless of form, only a major injury can stop them playing. What is the point of a squad when you are going to play these players?
Why not give Bailly a chance, Donny, Sancho?
I mean Pogba does the same things over and over again, got a red card, comes straight back into the team, Rashford after injury straight into the team
Its really annoying when we have a squad, if its not workingm, try something different!
Always find it mad that Pogba can’t have a bad game without it being the talk of the aftermatch. Maguire for example has had four absolute shockers in a row, I’m fine with that it happens, we saw the impact Maguire has when he was out last season, however I don’t recall a banner of his head in the studio background and Jake Humphrey saying “we must talk about Maguire”…. It’s fecking mental.On BT there were talking about Pogba and Scholes said that at Juventus he has players and a manager that was constantly on him, talking to him and getting him to concentrate and play proper football, whereas at United he doubts anybody does that. Rio even agreed and said the only person at the club that he thinks would do it is Ronaldo
I can honestly see us paying some club to take there manager soon. This is what it will come down to, Ole is riding on luck at the minute and it’s going to run out shortly. If we are going to pay out it’s either for Poch or Ten Hag. Can’t see Rodgers coming, maybe potter
the glazers are going to have to cough up, great talk on Irish RTE last night were Richie mentions their NFL team and Tom Brady, if they were to lose getting to the Super Bowl final this year, they will sack there coach, even though they won it last year, the standards are so high. Major difference to united were we are just a cash cow to them, but push comes to shove we will buy someone’s contract out because the noise to have him sacked will just be too deafening to them
the glazers are going to have to cough up, great talk on Irish RTE last night were Richie mentions their NFL team and Tom Brady, if they were to lose getting to the Super Bowl final this year, they will sack there coach, even though they won it last year, the standards are so high. Major difference to united were we are just a cash cow to them, but push comes to shove we will buy someone’s contract out because the noise to have him sacked will just be too deafening to them
Its getting to the point I am starting to hate Ole. When someone does not learn from mistakes, people usually call them foolish, naive.
This season when he plays with 4-2-3-1 we get battered, get lucky and get a result.
1 game this season we were convincing, Spurs away. 1 in 12 games. When we played players who hold shape, then he reverts to type and we concede chances.
How many times will Ole need to get beat 5-0 to learn that his set up isnt good enough?
How incompetent can a manager at this level be?
The whole club stinks of incompetence, from top to coaches.
This season when he plays with 4-2-3-1 we get battered, get lucky and get a result.
1 game this season we were convincing, Spurs away. 1 in 12 games. When we played players who hold shape, then he reverts to type and we concede chances.
How many times will Ole need to get beat 5-0 to learn that his set up isnt good enough?
How incompetent can a manager at this level be?
The whole club stinks of incompetence, from top to coaches.
He just flips from one thing to another…..it’s ridiculous. From changing to a back five after Liverpool, when he should have played it for Liverpool as an exception, to keeping a back five yesterday when it was never going to help us keep control of a game having less players who are comfortable on the ball and less passing options against a team like Atalanta….to throwing it out due to an injury.
Why didn’t he stick with it if he now believes in it so much. Why did he not bring Pogba off at HT who had a nightmare first half and went missing after that. Give VDB a proper chance he looked very good in the 5 minutes he got. Ditto Sancho who did more in five minutes than Greenwood and Rashford.
Based on what are we beating City? We've been playing awful this entire season, even when we've got points. City will rip our defense right open.
How long is he going to be allowed to keep embarrassing us?
MJ will demand the manager to be sacked, and some of the under performing players traded if he thought they are not at the same level.
I think he wanted a big squad not to rotate. He wanted very good backups so that he maximizes his chances of being bailed out by individual quality even if we have injuries. Of course he is rationalizing it for himself and for others in different terms. But deep down he knows that if his team stops having a significant advantage in terms of player quality over the majority of opponents - he is screwed (see Cardiff) and he only can get somewhat decent results overall if he has this advantage (United, Molde), as he is just not a very good manager, to put it mildly.
He is correct in wanting a deep squad and good backups of course - but for the wrong reasons. My theory explains why he does not rotate despite having good squad players (and wanting it to be so). They are just additional security for him so that he still gets a quality advantage over the majority of the opponents. He does not want to rotate much as he fears that even a moderate drop in quality would expose his deficiencies as manager, so he rotates only a bit or when he is forced to.
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Exactly. And if the player continues to ignore instructions, then you need to follow up with actions. Tuchel couple of times has shown how simple actions can effect football matches and teams. He took out to Hudson Odoi against Southampton after 30 minutes because his attitude and energy was not right. He subbed out Mount & brought in Kante at half time against Spurs to signal to his team that they needed to work harder. When words fail, any manager worth his salt should be prepared to follow through with actions. Otherwise, you establish a culture where mediocrity is tolerated.On BT there were talking about Pogba and Scholes said that at Juventus he has players and a manager that was constantly on him, talking to him and getting him to concentrate and play proper football, whereas at United he doubts anybody does that. Rio even agreed and said the only person at the club that he thinks would do it is Ronaldo
I think Ole is scared to get into confrontations as somewhere he lacks belief in his own abilities as a manager.
MJ won games for The Bulls and Championships ,We drew the game against Atalanta . MJ also had one of the best Coaches in the NBA who put the players and system around MJ to succeed, we don't have coaches or a manager of that calibre, The bulls have fallen into Mediocrity since then when they didn't get backing from the owners and put the right coaching staff in place ,now there is a comparison you can use Ole.
Our record in all competitions this season:
P15 W7 D3 L5 GF27 GA23.
Absolutely fecking shocking. I was all for giving him a chance but he has to go. Last night was comically bad.
P15 W7 D3 L5 GF27 GA23.
Absolutely fecking shocking. I was all for giving him a chance but he has to go. Last night was comically bad.
I wonder if Ole knows they also had Phil Jackson.
What is that video? he even looks like he's fake. Like SnapChat baby filter or something.
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