How about both? If rivals don't consider him a threat, then he is more than likely not a threat. And if most Man United fans think of him as being way over his head, then he's probably out of his depth. The two examples go hand and hand.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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You don’t need to be playing 7 defenders to make us more solid defensively. Before he was playing suicidal football so of course we looked all over the place and now people think the only way we can defend is by playing a 5 at the back. I’m certain a top manager would improve is defensively while still playing a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 formation.
Haagen Daz? Isn't that an ice cream?
Wasn't there for Moyes and LvG but Jose was definitely much more fraught at the end. I'd seen fans properly arguing with each other over Jose at St Mary's when we drew 2-2. The fans are in a much, much better state now than they were then. Even after last week
I base my judgement on performances and results and not based on what other fans think.
I didn’t hear it on tv but it was difficult to pick up singing to be fair . Heard Ole at the end but not the wheel song . I wasn’t doubting the support I just think that song should be binned.
Brilliant Ole!!! He threw 7 defenders on the pitch against a garbage Spurs side and came away with a win, congratulations. I guess that’s us now back on track and this tactical revelation will lead us to silverware this season right?
We won 3-0, scored some nice goals, and were the better team. Sounds like sour grapes that we actually won, how dare Ole do something like that.
The huge and persistent problem we have is not even timely sacking per se - it is that we are not proactive in identifying the next manager in advance and laying the groundwork. I fear that now we dither and not only not sack Ole, but not talk to other managers - and then in May it turns out that, for instance, Ten Hag gave his word to Barca/Poch re-signed for Spurs/Nagelsmann signed new contact/etc etc etc(just random scenarios off the top of my head, but you get the idea). And then again we complain "oh there are no suitable candidates". Which is bullshit, we could have even hired at least one of Klopp/Pep/Tuchel at various points in time had we been run better and more proactive.
Ole was performing at best barely in line with expectations until the beginning of this season, and this season should have been make or break for him - and conveniently it was his last contract year so if it is "break" - then it would entail no huge payout. Instead the board gave him new contract as if he outperformed greatly - and did not do any work in terms of having a backup plan if he starts underperforming. Of course, it makes them look bad and they are reluctant to pull the trigger. Especially for Woodward it is not pleasant to explain to Glasers why he hired 3 mansgers in a row who failed. Imagine how damaging it is for his ego.
Fair enough given how antagonistic Jose was. I'm not a match-going fan, so I'll never judge those who spend their hard-earned, but I do find the continuing support for Ole to be a bit confusing, especially since the Glazers will undoubtedly use that as justification to retain a manager who is clearly out of his depth.
Oh I’m very happy we won I just don’t think it’s sustainable. He’s using this formation now because his backs firmly up against the wall and has 3 games to save his job. What do you thinks going to happen after that when we have to open up and break teams down? We’ll be back to square one again and the cycle continues.
He's used it in one game. Most here that want him sacked today would get a manager in who would very likely do the same every game.
A manager who knows what to do with a 3 man defence. A manager who has consistently played a 3 man defence and won trophies. A manager who has managed star players and made them play in a 3 man defence.
Yeah, let's compare what Ole did and what we are going to do with Conte. The audacity of Ole in fans to come in and compare Ole to Conte, is just something else.
Ronaldo needs a striker partner to get the best out of him.
In the modern era are you really going to choose the 442 over a 352 which so many clubs are winning titles and CL'S with?
It's literally the only choice.
When Ronaldo can do with a rest - keep Cavani as our main striker and play 343 with Rashford and Greenwood out wide and replace who ever is not performing with Sancho.
In the modern era are you really going to choose the 442 over a 352 which so many clubs are winning titles and CL'S with?
It's literally the only choice.
When Ronaldo can do with a rest - keep Cavani as our main striker and play 343 with Rashford and Greenwood out wide and replace who ever is not performing with Sancho.
Just to quote what Ole said after the game.
" If one of them dont give what they have for Man Utd, they wont play, its as simple as that "
So Ole points out its not right for journalists to make false statements about him but its ok for him to make false statements to them ?
" If one of them dont give what they have for Man Utd, they wont play, its as simple as that "
So Ole points out its not right for journalists to make false statements about him but its ok for him to make false statements to them ?
Top post. The team selection yesterday was “i’m about to get fired, so lets try to save my job by playing a ton of defenders and hope one of the attackers score” He literally has no tactical plan, yesterday was just more proof of that.
'Ole in' fans have you heard yourself? Do you call Liverpool fans 'Klopp in' fans?
The big difference is when Conte plays 3 at the back there’s a high chance it will ultimately lead to winning major trophies as he’s mastered that formation over the years, whereas Ole’s doing it as a last throw of the dice to save his skin that’ll ultimately lead to nothing in the end.
Ole cult is in full swing again, another corner turned against mighty Spurs 
Luckily, we wont have to endure it for much longer, I'm sure he will be sacked in a few weeks.
My biggest worry is the game against Atalanta, I really hope our brilliant individuals can produce moments of magic and we don't crash out of CL for our next manager.
Luckily, we wont have to endure it for much longer, I'm sure he will be sacked in a few weeks.
My biggest worry is the game against Atalanta, I really hope our brilliant individuals can produce moments of magic and we don't crash out of CL for our next manager.
3-5-2 is the way forward, no two ways about it. We looked like we had some actual structure yesterday.
Well I'm glad he did, rather than doing what clearly hasn't been working. If he'd have done the same and lost would you have said well done Ole for sticking to his tactics?
What's this 'cult' and who has said there's a corner turned? It's the Solskjaer performance thread, did he perform well or badly yesterday?Ole cult is in full swing again, another corner turned against mighty Spurs
Luckily, we wont have to endure it for much longer, I'm sure he will be sacked in a few weeks.
My biggest worry is the game against Atalanta, I really hope our brilliant individuals can produce moments of magic and we don't crash out of CL for our next manager.
It is still OK to have a reasonable discussion while his job is (rightly) under threat.
Definitely funny seeing the Utd way rhetoric completely ditched when he most needed a result, Conte and Mourinho would have wet dreams over that lineup and performance. Even down to the Mourinho trick of dropping the young players to suggest they're to blame, classic.
The problem is what he was doing clearly hasn’t been working all season so why has it taken until now to try and change something? There doesn’t seem to be any real tactical planning, just throw enough shit at the wall and hope something sticks. So what happens now we persist with this formation until he eventually gets found out again and then what? He can’t revert back to a back 4 because it’s clear he can’t set us up like that without us getting cut to pieces.
I do too, and that is why I want to see another manager in charge of this football club.
It doesn’t sound like you’re happy we won. In fact, it sounds like quite the opposite.
I am not a fan of Conte, but imagine Ole supporters caliming our squad does not suit Conte, yet expliding of praise yesterday of Ole's tactical masterpiece (playing Conte style). 
Sounds like he's being realistic.
It doesn't, and no one is calling it a masterpiece.I am not a fan of Conte, but imagine Ole supporters caliming our squad does not suit Conte, yet expliding of praise yesterday of Ole's tactical masterpiece (playing Conte style).
No, sounds like he’d rather we lost.
Fair enough.
Sorry I forgot you have to praise everything the manager does and insist he'll win us the league to be a United fan
So the Board have basically written off the season already.
Spurs can have a free run at Conte then, since we prefer to keep Ole.
To be fair it doesn’t suit any formation at the moment. Really unbalanced whatever you try, I don’t see Contes approach being much harder than anything else we might reasonably go for.
Conte wont go to that shitshow. He’d genuinely strangle Levy.
It is disgraceful though how low the standards are at board level. Just a money making operation to them and nothing else.
No ambition. No accountability. Hard to get too invested as a fan when the club doesn’t.
He should have done, no excuse really. Maybe the injuries to Varane and Maguire haven't helped. I think it's also the first time we've had a full week of training before the game.
He can revert back at some point (if he's still in a job) but it was time to get back to basics and defend first.
This was the season to really make a push for the title too while Ronaldo is still capable of showings like yesterday but it's turned into him bailing out our incompetent coaching staff and manager. That's what his returning legacy will amount to.
It takes some metal to write Ole and Klopp in one line , just after doing the same with Conte.
I am not a fan of Conte, but imagine Ole supporters caliming our squad does not suit Conte, yet expliding of praise yesterday of Ole's tactical masterpiece (playing Conte style).
Honestly, it does not though.
352 means we leave A LOT of attacking players on the bench with very few spots to share between them. Maybe 343 is a solution, but that means Bruno has to play wide
Not only that, how’s squad harmony gonna be when we have Sancho, Rashford, Greenwood, pogba, lingard, martial, all not being able to get on the pitch because of our formation? No way it’s sustainable in the long term and it makes a mockery of us going after Sancho for two years. It’s purely about stemming the blood flow and keeping Ole in a job. Decent performance yesterday though.
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