He has been talking about slow starts longer than i can remember now. Nothing changes
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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Time for a poll?
We haven't become too predictable. Weve been predictable since Ole signed his first contract bar 5 or 6 games . Thats the problem many of us have since he's been here. He's no clue how to mix it up, no clue how to respond when an opposing manager changes his tactics during a game, his in game management and subs at times is baffling and today wasn't a one off, far from it. We've played like this plenty of times but came away with results which has masked just how naive he is in the tactics department.
Many confuse getting results from the actual performance when in reality the 2 should go hand in hand after so long at the helm. Amy team can have an off day but results aside we've had an awful lot of those during his reign and even though it's still early in the season nothing much looks like it's going to change.
Only watched the first half. Very very surprised we didn’t win this one. What happened? The first half was United against a championship team.
Coming to the realisation yet? As mentioned earlier, same stuff,different year.
McFred at home to villa. Joke.
This feels a lot like last season, when there was talk that all would depend on him getting a "real" CB and an RW. I agree, we lack Quality in that area of the squad but when will that cycle stop? Will it stop? Be honest, don't you think the year after the DM it could be that we need an actual striker? A replacement for Pogba? A backup for AWB? A backup for the striker, the DM, the RW ...?
Teams rarely are perfect, to wait for that means missing out.
They got better. We got worse.
We can all have a think about what it means when one team improves after the half time interval and the other does not…
I'm pretty sure half of our fanbase dreams of that too.
Maybe even the club.
It's lunacy. Complete lunacy.
Sure you watched us? It wasn't the greatest of games but we were not as bad as some make it look like. Individually everybody was a t least solid. Villa though was great, great pressing and real intent in their attacks. We simply didn't create anything of note against them. Oles potential ways to influence were hampered due to forced subs because of injuries to Shaw and Maguire. We conceded a set piece and didn't make use of a penalty later on. It was a deserved loss (I think it would have been after 1st 45minutes as well).
"The definition of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result".
This is us all over!
I'm sure many of us will think that before the Villareal match next week the coaching staff will be on the training ground making changes that will positively affect our performances but the reality is we will play the exact same formation with more or less the same players sticking to the same duties/roles.
This is us all over!
I'm sure many of us will think that before the Villareal match next week the coaching staff will be on the training ground making changes that will positively affect our performances but the reality is we will play the exact same formation with more or less the same players sticking to the same duties/roles.
Huge streak of games coming up now. Pressure is on more so than before. Hopefully we can come through on a good run but we need to start making the most of when we are on top.
Still backing the manager but he himself said he has to perform or he is out at the beginning of the season so pressure will be on.
Still backing the manager but he himself said he has to perform or he is out at the beginning of the season so pressure will be on.
I waited for hours to make that joke, but you’re right.
You aren't the first and you will not be the last.Ole's idea of attacking football is have 4-5 players in a straight line all making the same run for a Bruno through ball.
You actually brought Molde to the table, you automatically lose the debate. I won a cup when I was 12, it was not for being the best team but rewarded for fair play. Does that make me more successful than Harry Kane? What Ole Solskjær did at Molde does not count for shit, it is not the same sport whatsoever. The Norwegian league is utterly crap and any team with some investment like Molde had could to from oblivion to contention. See Bodø/Glimt, some smart investments and strategies and suddenly won the league. Please.
It’s not just the losing, it’s the manner of the defeats, it’s the rubbish performance. There’s no patterns to our play, no urgency until it’s too late. When we lose, the pundits should be talking about the opposition’s keeper being man of the match after making save after save. But instead we are lucky if we have more than a handful of shots on target.
Despite all the attacking talent at our disposal, the manager insists on playing with two poor defensive midfielders, neither of whom can pass forward accurately or quickly. Despite this strategy failing for 2 seasons already, we are going to try again and again. Upgrading players in front and behind but playing the same two gobshites in the middle of the park will always lead to the same disappointing performances.
It’s time to pull the plaster off, and change the entire management team before this season is written off.
Despite all the attacking talent at our disposal, the manager insists on playing with two poor defensive midfielders, neither of whom can pass forward accurately or quickly. Despite this strategy failing for 2 seasons already, we are going to try again and again. Upgrading players in front and behind but playing the same two gobshites in the middle of the park will always lead to the same disappointing performances.
It’s time to pull the plaster off, and change the entire management team before this season is written off.
That really worries me. I mean, of course in hindsight that sort of thing effects us. But the issue isn't that we are unlucky with the refs, it is that time and time again we find ourselves in situations where stuff like that, bad luck or coincidences depending on your philosophical stance, decides over win and failures. I am sorry, but I have absolutely zero compassion with it. Actually I am angry reading that. As if the criticism is about him getting this one individual result - it isn't.
That’s not modern football. The most successful clubs all change managers fairly regularly.
Refusing to take any blame as always.
Well It was very much a tongue in cheek post but I have to love how winning trophies in a European league means nothing but him not winning trophies at fecking Cardiff means something. You silly silly man.
The Villa game answered my initial queries. It’s now becoming worryingly evident Ole needs to leave.
I've given up now. He's done some good things and got us back on track but at this point we're just waiting for the inevitable. Whether it's this year or 3 years from now, he's not good enough and we will get rid of him.
The only question is how much time we waste waiting.
The only question is how much time we waste waiting.
Knee jerk galore here mate
I propose a new manager every 2 years. Let's just chuck our lot in with Chelsea and City. That's modern football so let's embrace it. Maybe we can all wear the same jerseys.
Strong focus on youth? Hm, really? But ok.
Attacking football? What? Where? When? We sit deep and play on counter attacks. When will that myth about us and attacking football die?
I don't think our players suit a klopp style.
City & Chelsea win regular trophies. You don’t want to be like that?
What exactly doesn't suit his style? Except AWB i guess
You lose stability
. As i learned here, when you sack manager, you lose club's stability. And you need to lose at least another 4 years for rebuilding . Because new manager must get his squad.I made a thread about all those myths. https://www.redcafe.net/threads/fear-of-changing-the-manager.458134/
And 500 million. You can’t forget that part. 4 years & 500 million.You lose stability
I made a thread about all those myths.
Most annoying question is; if not Ole, who? Who??!!
Of course it is.
Our fans mock Real Madrid for their coaching carousel and circus.
But they are the most successful club side ever.
That should tell you everything.
Klopp plays high risk high reward, our defence has given our opponents big chances at the slightest exposure.
Our midfield is not close to what klopp expects, and klopp likes more creative forwards.
Stop insulting everyone’s intelligence.This
It boils my piss. His comments in general are getting worse and worse.
More bad faith argument drivel. Nobody is saying change managers for the fun of it.
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