Not jumping to Mourinho defence? I was never asked about Mourinho but as I kept reading your response you mentioned tumescent football. The irony on wanting to defend Mourinho and complaining about the football under Ole is nuts. Oles football for United has been much better.
I never compared Ole's football to Mourinho's, all I'm saying is that we aren't playing pretty football under Ole either. We have short spells of 10-20 minutes in every match of actual football and then 80 min of shakiness in which we're not even able to string simple passes, let alone dominate the other team.
Up until the start of this season, Mourinho had a much better team thanOle, so I dont agree Jose has a worse squad. He signed his two CBs, two CDMs, Sanchez, Mkhi, Pogba and of course Lukaku and Zlatan. Let's not pretend he was playing with a poor squad.
That's not true, is it? Ole had Maguire, Jose had Rojo, Ole has Bruno, Jose had Fellaini. Ole has AWB (with all his faults) while Jose had Darmian. Ole has a world class stacked squad while Mourinho had four players that were remotely of this level - Pogba, De Gea, Lukaku and Zlatan. The rest of the squad was Fred-tier. And Jose didn't sign shit, he kept imploring the club repeatedly to sign his players but they refused. Remember the whole Perisic/Martial debacle? Well, the club fecked him on that too. I'm not defending Jose, but to say he has had a better squad than Ole is absurd.
The conte argument is a joke too. 5 at the back football, no thank you AND also let's not forget earlier in Conte's career he had many failures and disappointments. WE are in the 3rd full season of Oles reign and he has done nothing to warrant such crazy write offs.
400+ million, three seasons... how much time and money does Ole need before he is judged of anything? That's what I wanna know? 5-10, 20 years?
I do however know we won't agree with each other as I find some of your points laughable, and you probably do with mine. But IF we finish poorly this year in the premiership and we show no progress or challenge, I am with you, his position should be considered. I am not here to LOVE ole just for sentimental reasons, I am here because I have seen him do a better job than those before him bar SAF and show a sign of moving forward each year.
What does "poor" mean to you? Because poor to me means top 4 with no challenge on any front. To you it may mean mid-table or something.
If he challenges though, it'll be the same arguments from Ole-outers. He should have won the league, he should have won the UCL or they'll pull a random game he didn't get the tactics right to call for his head like people tried with Poch earlier. Its just conte now, and it'll be someone else next year.
No, my expectations are simple. If he challenges and the team shows good progress in terms of football, I'll back him for one more season. But if we do nothing with this squad and 400 million, 3 years spent, surely questions must be asked?
I dont think players of Ronaldo stature and Varane would come to work with him if they didn't believe in what they saw from Uniteds progress and Ole and his vision and that gives me enough confidence. Let's agree to disagree and pick up in May
I am genuinely asking you: do you really think Varane and Ronaldo came because of Ole? I don't think so. The reality is that the club still has enough status and financial pull to get almost any player in the world. But that too has its limits. The more we fall behind from our rivals, the more we lose in terms of revenue and stature and soon even the United name won't carry any meaning. We're not financed by a sugar daddy, every penny we pay for a player comes from the club's profits. And that is why we cannot allow a 20 years rebuild.