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Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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No, what was said was that all professional clubs have good coaching, and that someone who's done their badges and work at the top level know more about what they're doing than angry posters on the Caf. It was in the response to the idea that our coaches are shit and don't know what they're doing, and not, as you keep implying, that we're not allowed to question or criticise "because they have badges."
Like I said, you willfully misread what those guys were saying, and have been bleating about it for days as if it's some clever parody of a Ole cultist, and not just complete fabrication on your behalf.
Oh sure, they are professional footballers they get paid to play football, difference is they get paid 3k a week, our players get paid 200k a week.
So that makes it okay to shit on them?
I didn't shit on anybody, farmers league is just an expression. I was emphasising the difference in squad quality.
You didn't say "farmer's league", you called them "a bunch of farmers". Quite a big difference. One is a (somewhat derogatory) way to describe the quality of a league, the other is just straight shitting on the players for no reason.
Really? So calling the league a farmers league is ok with you, but calling the players that play in that league farmers isn't. Give it up will you. Its just an expression, don't know why you're getting so worked up about it.
Why do you feel the need to insult the players?
Are you seriously comparing those 3 managers we had to Conte, Pep and Tuchel?
You think Moyes and Conte are comparable?
No.
Here we go again. It's just an expression!! Insult players... jesus
So nothing?
Do you play for a Swiss football team or something? What's the matter with you?
Matter with me? I'm not the one denigrating smaller teams and leagues.
Kin ell... Sorry I called them farmers.. Alright?
Surely you know success isn't guaranteed in football no matter how big and good a squad. Messi wasn't the best player on earth when Pep took over. If anything he showed bravery by tweaking Barcelona's system under Rijkkard and getting rid of several players to pave the way for Messi to rise to prominence with the team built around him at a young age.
Many thought Barcelona were at the end of a golden era after they won their first CL under Rijkkard. Van Bommel, Thuram, Deco, Zambrotta, Ronaldinho etc were replaced by the likes of Messi, Iniesta, Busquets, Dani Alves and the like as the core of the team. He fabricated his own version and went to places Rijkkard never ascended to, like winning the sextuple in his first season. Its absolutely his coaching alone that has catapulted him to the top. Pirlo took over a dominant Juventus and was fired after one season because he's not a very good manager
Devils lost to a bunch of farmers with pitchforks.
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Its funny how you accuse @ AjaxCunian for "willfully misread those guys" when in your next few posts do the same childish willfully misreading of @UnofficialDevil
Its another case of "It's okey when i do it.."
Solskjaer for some reason played to counter the opposition by maintaining a defensive structure. But we didn't carry much
threat on the counter, which meant the opposition were comfortable in holding a higher line. There was no tempo to our play and it seems we gave Young Boys alot more respect than they deserved. They were the more proactive team and were playing the game on their terms even before the red card.
And I hope that doesn't become a regular feature for us and we actually look to approach games to be proactive rather than reactive, especially against the lesser teams. But the most damning thing from that article is Young Boys having significantly more shots (19-2) and having significantly more final third passes completed (111-38).
What is Phelan's influence on Ole's tactical decisions? Surely, he could see that Lingard's unorthodox deep lying position after Fred exited would make us more vulnerable?
I've been a long-time Ole supporter but I now truly feel he has done all he could given his ability. He has definitely instilled a strong sense of positivity in the squad and a brilliant work ethic. It is now time for someone with a winning pedigree to take charge. I'm just not sure who would be suited for the job or available.
I still think we needed Ole but he has done what he was brought here to do - to substantially raise morale and believe.
I've been a long-time Ole supporter but I now truly feel he has done all he could given his ability. He has definitely instilled a strong sense of positivity in the squad and a brilliant work ethic. It is now time for someone with a winning pedigree to take charge. I'm just not sure who would be suited for the job or available.
I still think we needed Ole but he has done what he was brought here to do - to substantially raise morale and believe.
We’ve came a long way and made progress, but this season we truly need silverware no excuses. The whole world is looking at us now, it’s not a work in progress anymore. The time has come to deliver.
Thank you. @AjaxCunian guy has been trolling since we lost once in 10 games.
2 shots since the last 17 years when Fergie did it.
Unless we are determined to play with 10 men every game against lesser opponent I don’t think we will be reactive like we did against young boys after the sending off. I would like to think we most likely be on the front foot. I dreamt that we did that against a lesser team last week and won 4-1. I know it didn’t happen but one can dream right?
I don't disagree with the "brainfarts" thing at all. Some of his subs and decisions are baffling, I admit.
And yes, the rebuild is almost complete in my opinion. Like I said, the fact we don't have a decent second team to compete on all fronts and the fact that we still rely on Fred, Matic, and McTominay leads me to believe that there is some more work to be done.
Having said that, this season we indeed have a decent squad to be challenging till the very end on most, if not all, trophies.
P. S. - Don't really understand the obsession with money spent. It is common knowledge that United spend over the odds for players and sell them on the cheap. Our financial position is open for all to see and teams take advantage of that.
There was a difference to the approach to both games, and I've watched both games twice now. We approached the Newcastle game by playing with more risk which meant Newcastle played on the counter. The game against Young Boys was different in that we maintained defensive structure and committed more players in defensive transition and less in offensive transition. Young Boys were more than a match for us even before the sending off and David Wagner and his team were playing the game on their terms IMO. There was no tempo to our play before the sending off, and after the sending off we resorted to playing containment football which I found personally dissapointing with the quality of players we have at our disposal in comparison to the Swiss team, even with 10 men.Unless we are determined to play with 10 men every game against lesser opponent I don’t think we will be reactive like we did against young boys after the sending off. I would like to think we most likely be on the front foot. I dreamt that we did that against a lesser team last week and won 4-1. I know it didn’t happen but one can dream right?
IMO it comes down to how the manager wants to approach games. And if he wants to approach games by committing more players in defensive transition rather than offensive transition against teams like Young Boys, then I feel we won't be playing a proactive brand of football and will resort to playing in a reactive manner.
And going slightly off topic, I'd just like to say that Kieran McKenna who many are criticizing, is a coach who from my experience of watching his team play at youth level, was a very attacking coach. I honestly believe if McKenna was in charge against Young Boys, we'd have sacrificed defensive stability for goals and played much higher up the pitch.
Can you find examples of this please? I’m trying to find some “Wumming” like this.
We dont know if Phelan is not rather a part to the problem here. Ole has his weaknesses and it seems like his staff share the same ones
That’s a great point. I hadn’t thought about it that way. Phelan’s time with Sir Alex has always made me feel that he had the same vision as Fergie. But maybe not
Another spot on video on what we think about Ole.
Ole was a sentimental appointment, not the right appointment, and sections of the fanbase need to get around to separating Ole the legendary player from Ole the under qualified and tactically inept coach.
Ole said for his 1st game in charge that McKenna and Carrick were in full charge of tactics/training/everything(when we beat Cardiff 5-1).
That still remains one of our best performances under Ole IMO.
We had the highest PPDA of any team that season(or up to that point). So, whenever I remember that, I don't think new assistance coaches would change much with our approach.
Ole isn't a proactive manager by nature IMO. It would have been obvious by now.
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A lot of that Cardiff performance could be put down to the post-Jose bounce and the fact that the opponents had no idea how we were going to play I think. And even then I don’t recall we created much until our first goal which was a free kick. But then maybe that would have been the closest glimpse of how McKenna would coach the team? Since he has a reputation of being a very attacking coach for the youth teams.
I think it kinda falls into the same thing, if it isn't that being said, posters here are accused ny the same posters of being armchair managers who think they know better than our coaches. Posters that have been questioning our brand or quality of football have been silenced by these things, or called hipsters. Fair enough, enough hyperbole is used when people question our football and our coaches, but it's not going to add anything to attack "the hyperbole" and not the content or intent of what they're saying at all.
Am I the only one that thinks he lacks courage in key moments? Not even trying to criticise him, just an observation.
Ferguson was a gambler, Ole strikes me as the opposite personality. He's a cautious coach.
All his decisions on Tuesday had reason behind them. They were rational decisions that someone averse to risk would take.
Ferguson was a gambler, Ole strikes me as the opposite personality. He's a cautious coach.
All his decisions on Tuesday had reason behind them. They were rational decisions that someone averse to risk would take.
Solskjaer was very attacking at Molde from what I saw. And in the games Varane has started we've looked to play with more risk imo. But in the Young Boys game, we had Lindelof and Maguire starting, so I'm wondering if Solskjaer reverted to type because he doesn't trust the pairing in 1v1 scenarios without fullback/midfield assistance. So i'm intrigued to see how we setup with and with out Varane and if a pattern emerges as far as how we approach games.
Football is a game of so much details. From individual players concentration to coaches preparation and in-game instructions to training method to luck with injuries and purchases, to opponents performance and many more. The change that you all want is a general change. Change of tactics mostly. But to win games regularly so many thing have to consistently go our way before and during games. It’s so much easier to criticise when you’re just watching on telly and get information from media. When you are in the group, every single thing must be executed properly for us to win even a single game. So it’s not just Ole.
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Not meant to be taken literally. In English, its called hyperbole.
Sure, here I get comments like these whenever I'll say that x player is great or when I say that Klopp and Pep are on different planet from Ole
Link is still working fine for me and others, not sure what the issue could be. Maybe region?
This might sound like an excuse but I think the preconceived notion of "Away CL games are tougher" played a role and on top of that our players looked very uncomfortable on that pitch. Looked like they were more worried about not falling while running than passing the ball.
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