Spot on and it’s even weirder considering he was absolutely proven right, we could have conceded 6 easily.
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Spot on and it’s even weirder considering he was absolutely proven right, we could have conceded 6 easily.
He made 2 subs and all of a sudden we looked like we will concede goals. It is clear the aim was maybe to get 2 goals in the first half then make changes.
Also, with all this talk about Bailly, VDB, the 2 DM's, yesterday showed why he picks the teams he does.
Touched his own willy when the cameraman took the photo. This man always does the wrong thing.
Or even worse, if we had lost by four and actually been knocked out
Ole was right to pick a strong line-up yesterday, but I felt he was naive to change both full-backs at half-time. And I think there is a larger point about him playing the same players all the time. I refuse to believe Telles and VDB are really as bad as their performances yesterday, but it is understandable that they are rusty given how little they play. I think he could probably get more out of the squad if he spread the playing time around a little more. In the end the results are good though, so can't really complain too much.
So did Wigan in 2013
And what if they lose that final - and end fifth in the league ?
I don't really think a micro analysis is required after every result tbh.
As posted at the end of last season - I wanted to see progress in the following areas: A comfortable top four finish, a cup win or a place in a final and an improvement in our playing style. I feel those were all very fair metrics to judge him on, and he's achieved all of that. It's been a pretty good season overall bar the odd expected hiccup here-and-there. The biggest disappointment for me is our CL exit and no amount of excuses can gloss that over. I feel he's made more strides as a manager and I really feel we're ready for a title push next season.
As posted at the end of last season - I wanted to see progress in the following areas: A comfortable top four finish, a cup win or a place in a final and an improvement in our playing style. I feel those were all very fair metrics to judge him on, and he's achieved all of that. It's been a pretty good season overall bar the odd expected hiccup here-and-there. The biggest disappointment for me is our CL exit and no amount of excuses can gloss that over. I feel he's made more strides as a manager and I really feel we're ready for a title push next season.
Ive said it before and I'll say it again, people will still complain if ole were to win the league.
If ending 3rd and 2nd in a highly competitive P.L is mediocre - then you agree that every other manager apart from Guardiola has been awful and should be fired ?
Tottenham this year has been a big strange - they have won 6 games more than they have lost and have + 22 GD - that is very unusual. That indicates - they lose by 1 goal and win by 3. Or put in simpler times - Son and Kane if they have a good day will take teams apart, but if they have a poor day Spurs lose.
Does anyone remember how close we were to being knocked out by Celta Vigo in 2017 ? Eric Bailly was his usual self and got sent off - and Guidetti (?) missed a sitter in injury-time which would have sent us out. And here people are complaining because we beat Roma 8-5 on aggregate
You talk as if we are lifting the PL trophy. Bottom line is, Ole has done better than expected but getting one over Pep and Kloop seems beyond him IMO.
With the easiest group and first knockout tie ever.
Does anyone remember how close we were to being knocked out by Celta Vigo in 2017 ? Eric Bailly was his usual self and got sent off - and Guidetti (?) missed a sitter in injury-time which would have sent us out. And here people are complaining because we beat Roma 8-5 on aggregate
I'm sure people moaned about that too tbh.
What season should I be expecting it? Why don't you tell me and we will bookmark this post and revisit it then??
You are clearly a troll. What a ridiculous comment.
Yeah, I didn't think you'd tell me when I should expect it either. Thanks for wasting 3 of my posts of the day.
Think you need to waste some more. Let everyone else enjoy theIr time here this evening.
I don't believe you're a United fan for a second.
Ok. Top red.
Not even that hard to answer. If he doesn't manage to mount a title challenge next season or the season after that, he's definitely gone.
It's all about progress and context though.
You're talking to a guy who thought this season was the one it should have happened. It doesn't matter what arbitrary timeline you give these things. He's made up his mind.
So 2 more years, great. I'll wait.
if he keeps up this steady progress a title challenge seems inevitable in the next couple of years
needs a good window though
we can't afford another half assed one like last summer or any expensive mistakes
needs a good window though
we can't afford another half assed one like last summer or any expensive mistakes
Ignoring the obvious troll in this thread...
What do we think about the remaining fixtures? Where should we prioritise? Try and remain unbeaten in the away fixtures to keep our run going? Target the Liverpool game? Or target the nearest competition to our 2nd place finish in Leicester? We basically need 3 wins to confirm 2nd place, but 2 wins and a draw would also probably do it as it's doubtful Leicester will win all of their games anyway.
What do we think about the remaining fixtures? Where should we prioritise? Try and remain unbeaten in the away fixtures to keep our run going? Target the Liverpool game? Or target the nearest competition to our 2nd place finish in Leicester? We basically need 3 wins to confirm 2nd place, but 2 wins and a draw would also probably do it as it's doubtful Leicester will win all of their games anyway.
"only won becuz of Bruno and <insert new signing here>"
Agreed. Club needs to back him this Summer as we need to keep the momentum going. Keep improving, keep investing and this time not kids of the future. We need improvement now.
Shows how incredibly dominant we have been for so long that the agenda posters are jumping on a match where we 'conceded 11 shots' as their best hope to look right / less wrong
"We didn't steamroll the league like city or Liverpool have done in the past, we only won by 2 points. Yeah we won but people need to get a grip if you think ole is the man for the job"
Exactly. Compared to that slog of a cup run under Jose it’s been relatively plain sailing.Does anyone remember how close we were to being knocked out by Celta Vigo in 2017 ? Eric Bailly was his usual self and got sent off - and Guidetti (?) missed a sitter in injury-time which would have sent us out. And here people are complaining because we beat Roma 8-5 on aggregate
Does a 2nd place finish have a different implication for the Champions League next year than 3rd?
Or is it all based on coefficients and so we’re guaranteed to be seeded 2nd in the group stages regardless?
Or is it all based on coefficients and so we’re guaranteed to be seeded 2nd in the group stages regardless?
Ole needs to win the Treble with Smalling in defense, Lingard and Pereira in mid as well as players that don't want to play for the club. That is what great managers have done.
What world class players did SAF ever had? Mourinho? Pep has always elevated mediocre players to WC ones, just look at his time at Barca. Who now remembers names like Xavi or Iniesta or Messi or Busquets.
Point I'm trying to make is that to judge a manager based on the players that he has is wrong. Being a manager is being magic. Patterns of play. Carl Anka.
Sorry for the long rant but I really get annoyed by the idea that player quality is relevant to team success.
What world class players did SAF ever had? Mourinho? Pep has always elevated mediocre players to WC ones, just look at his time at Barca. Who now remembers names like Xavi or Iniesta or Messi or Busquets.
Point I'm trying to make is that to judge a manager based on the players that he has is wrong. Being a manager is being magic. Patterns of play. Carl Anka.
Sorry for the long rant but I really get annoyed by the idea that player quality is relevant to team success.
Winning the league isn't something "to be expected," not even for Manchester City. It's a monumental achievement that few managers ever get to claim. This isn't France or Germany. The Premier League remains competitive.
Now, expecting a manager to mount credible title *challenges* within a certain number of years is what would be reasonable for a big club, given how much they have to invest. And if a manager doesn't win a title despite coming close a few times, it may well be reasonable to find someone the club feels can do better.
Now, expecting a manager to mount credible title *challenges* within a certain number of years is what would be reasonable for a big club, given how much they have to invest. And if a manager doesn't win a title despite coming close a few times, it may well be reasonable to find someone the club feels can do better.
Anderlecht in the quarters when we needed extra time to get through. Rostov in the Last 16 when we won 2:1 after two legs. It was tough watching.
the Ole complaints are constantly changing
the sheer volume keeps increasing too
we used to only get moaning after defeats, now we get it after every draw and some wins too, or worse he's written off at half time
it's like a disease, constantly evolving and spreading
but Ole keeps on improving
the sheer volume keeps increasing too
we used to only get moaning after defeats, now we get it after every draw and some wins too, or worse he's written off at half time
it's like a disease, constantly evolving and spreading
but Ole keeps on improving
Not anywhere close to this.
Yep, you tell them Ole
Not to mention it was probably the easiest draw of modern european cup history - we didn't play a single good side the entire competition. Even Ajax in the final was a case of men against boys. They had some decent players and a bunch of 18-19 year old supertalents who weren't quite ready for it.
I havent watched highlights of our victory in that period. The games were largely torture.
And dont get me started on that final.
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