Well the problem for Ole bridging the gap is that Coty have a far superior squad and the best manager in world football so it’s going to take a miracle for him to do it. Even if Ole is up to this job and is a top manager I don’t see us finishing ahead of city in the near future
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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We weren't great but we still dominated them: We had 15 shots to their 5 and 58% possession. Some are acting as though Brighton were the better side 
It's been a good weekend for us with both Chelsea and Leicester losing. Again, it wasn't a vintage performance by any means but job done.
It's been a good weekend for us with both Chelsea and Leicester losing. Again, it wasn't a vintage performance by any means but job done.
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Most goals and assists from substitutes in the league.
There's been a graphic posted around lately that shows that United is on top in the PL this year from goals/points gained from our subs.
Had a look around now and couldn't find it, but am also happily buzzed right now.
33 point gap up to Liverpool last season, 11 points ahead of them now. You never know what happens in football.
Really ?? Do you have a link or anything? I’m surprised but that is good news. As I said I felt he makes the right subs but sometimes a bit late
That is good news if you find can you send it ?
We have improved but this is all down to Liverpool they are the worst title defenders of all time. City might have a bad enough season like last but will never drop off that far
I think it was the Southampton and West Ham games when the subs really did change the game.
Cavani scored a lot from the bench and I think Rashford and Bruno did well too from the bench.
It's in this article.
I remember Cavani scored 2 from the bench, in the CL Rashford scored a hat trick against Leipzig. When I think it was Bruno/Rashford against West Ham
60 points at this stage is quite the improvement upon the poor showing last season. If we can get a good run til the end of the season we might even finish with a respectable points tally, which will be something to build on.
Top 4 pretty much guaranteed now. He's doing better than I expected, but hopefully he'll improve our general play and address the imbalance of the side prior to next season.
Top 4 pretty much guaranteed now. He's doing better than I expected, but hopefully he'll improve our general play and address the imbalance of the side prior to next season.
60 points In 30 games is solid 2.0 points a game. It will never be enough to challenge but it is a improvement.
Well our general play and imbalance has too improve over this summer as if we finish 2nd in the league the only way to improve on it next year will be a title challenge and we won’t do that without fixing them problems
Is it just me or is Potter very overrated on here?
It was 4€ a month to read the article but thank you it’s good to see that we are scoring off the bench. Imagine if Ole didn’t wait so long a lot of the time.
Yeah it was West Ham when Rashford and Bruno came from the bench. Southampton was with Cavani scoring twice and one assist too I think.
As I said he gets a lot of plaudits yet they aren’t better off In the league but with Ex goal and ex conceded they would be 6th. We would still be 2nd for example. No team moves up more than 2 places yet they went up 10.
My cousin is a Brighton fan and I watch a lot of them they average more shot a game than us for example they play nice football but are so wasteful it’s ridiculous. For example they played Palace a few weeks ago and Palace had 4 touches in Brighton box and 3 shots to Brighton’s 21(missed a peno aswell) and palace won 2-1.
They need a Striker big time but then again Potter brought in Welbeck when he needed goals I don’t know why. If Brentford don’t go up they should snap up Ivan Toney. Overall I rate Potter highly you can see they have a set style and are decent at doing it. I’d say they would go down say next season if he left
Last season.
P30 Pts46 position 5th
This season
P30 Pts 60 position 2nd
P30 Pts46 position 5th
This season
P30 Pts 60 position 2nd
Aye, they have a clear system, there's no doubt about that but by god, they seem to waste a colossal amount of opportunities and concede some really stupid goals. I saw the Palace game, crazy stuff.
I'd say that stat is sickening his critics, inside and out
No I agree and at the end of the day that is his negative and also will show if he is as good as people rate him as he has to fix that.
If you are saving he is overrated as in people here when trying to talk down Ole by saving Potter is better and has a style etc then yes he is. He has to show that he can take Brighton to mid table consistently before taking the step upto say a Arsenal level.
Anyway my cousin watches more of them than I do and they break his heart with the amount of games they throw away and boss but lose but he is delighted with Potter
Ole is growing with the team.
Plenty more setbacks to come
Crucial transfer window.
Important to build a solid start next season.
Hopefully finish with a strong run in the Europa.
Plenty more setbacks to come
Crucial transfer window.
Important to build a solid start next season.
Hopefully finish with a strong run in the Europa.
Either that or they’ll ask why United came to have 46 points after 30 games in a season.
Hope he wins Europa to shut up a lot of people
And because I want United to win the trophy, would be a great start for some of the players to get it
And because I want United to win the trophy, would be a great start for some of the players to get it
Six more games and he's managed the same number of games as Jose did for us.
Ole so far: P138 W77 D31 L30 Win% 55.8
Jose: P144 W84 D32 L28 Win% 58.2
Ole so far: P138 W77 D31 L30 Win% 55.8
Jose: P144 W84 D32 L28 Win% 58.2
Tangible improvement that
Here's the league stats. Pretty close across the board with Jose with the exception of clean sheets. But obviously Ole has 4 more games to be even with Jose.
Manager | Games | W | D | L | Win % | Points PG | GF | GA | GD | GF PG | GA PG | Clean Sheets |
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LVG | 76 | 39 | 19 | 18 | 51.32% | 1.79 | 111 | 72 | +39 | 1.46 | 0.95 | 29 |
Jose | 93 | 50 | 26 | 17 | 53.76% | 1.89 | 151 | 86 | +63 | 1.62 | 0.92 | 38 |
Ole | 89 | 47 | 25 | 17 | 52.81% | 1.87 | 160 | 94 | +66 | 1.80 | 1.06 | 30 |
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Actually surprised that Ole and Jose are so close in the GF stat. Feels like Ole should be miles ahead!
Let me double check.
I was being lazy and used a bad formula. Fixed it now. Ole's 9 goals ahead but having conceded more.
Transfermarkt has Mourinho at 151-86, rather than 159-96
I think goal difference is a slightly more accurate comparison point and he's already ahead there.
Ah ok, still thought it would be a-bit more. I guess maybe just feels like that as we've had some really big wins under Ole - Southampton/Leeds - and Jose's football was mostly soul sucking stuff.
Remember the start of 19/20, for example: after beating Chelsea 4-0 on the opening day, we went eight league games without ever scoring more than one goal in a single game. Or at the end of 18/19: we scored seven goals in the last nine league games. These kind of awful runs do bring down his stats quite a bit.
Even this season: take out the wins against Leeds and Southampton and we have 43 goals in 28 games, 1.535 goals per game which amounts to 53 goals over a whole season. We're not a free-scoring side by any means. Mourinho has a well-deserved reputation for shite football but his teams aren't usually extremely low scorers.
We could literally do that for any team. Take out the times City scored 5 and 4 and they'd have less.
It is generally tricky to compare points across different seasons, but even more so to compare this season to any other.
Teams who are in Europe and/or go far in domestic cups have an even tighter schedule this season and this gives an advantage (a bigger advantage than under normal circumstances) to teams which only have one game per week.
Teams who are in Europe and/or go far in domestic cups have an even tighter schedule this season and this gives an advantage (a bigger advantage than under normal circumstances) to teams which only have one game per week.
Their goals are more evenly distributed than ours though. To do a direct comparison: their three highest scoring wins were three 5-0s. That's 22% of their total, as opposed to our 33%. And it's a City team that spent the entire season playing without a centre-forward and being praised for their defensive solidity. They're not exactly the goal machines of 2017/18 either.
Also, I didn't see you making the same point in the "our tough start to the season hides our progress'" thread
Even though it applies there as well: if you take out three horrible games, any team's season looks much better. Those three games are also regularly cited to highlight our defensive record in the other games, with the reasoning being that after those early games, we haven't conceded a lot. And once more, you could make the same argument: if you take out the games where a team conceded a lot of goals, their defensive record will obviously look much better.Either every game counts no matter what we're talking about, or you have to allow discussion on context and specific circumstances. Our attack is very often unspectacular and struggling to create chances - and sometimes it explodes, and runs rampant. We have a high 'top' level in attack - but a very low 'bottom' level.
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