Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

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Wumminator said:
Everyone does know me you are right. I’ve won funniest poster numerous times here. However, unfortunately people might not know you. Here’s a section of your “highlights” for people to peruse.
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:lol: What a life achievement. You must have a shitty life to celebrate that.
It must have been killing you inside to read my posts and cant respond because Ole is a novice manager that cant help you with your cause. But finally he gave you that chance today.
 
Like I said, OGS knows how to get a result when the pressure is on.

It's so frustrating that we can beat the best team in the league yet drop points to Palace, West Brom and Sheffield United.

Makes no sense.
 
TheGame said:
Mate, you are wasting your breath with that guy. As you’ve shown by his posts and hope everyone else can see as well, he is just a WUM with a personal agenda. Constant stream of vitriol against Ole and not interested in any discussion.
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What is the agenda? This is really silly? I do not know Ole personally! why would I have an agenda against someone I never met, because he is bad at his job and I WANT SUCCESS TO THE CLUB I LOVE? If Ole wins major trophies do you think there is any united supporter would hate that?
 
Giggsyking said:
:lol: What a life achievement. You must have a shitty life to celebrate that.
It must have been killing you inside to read my posts and cant respond because Ole is a novice manager that cant help you with your cause. But finally he gave you that chance today.
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Some pretty shocking posts he’s quoted from you there though mate.
 
Giggsyking said:
:lol: What a life achievement. You must have a shitty life to celebrate that.
It must have been killing you inside to read my posts and cant respond because Ole is a novice manager that cant help you with your cause. But finally he gave you that chance today.
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I like @Wumminator he makes me laugh. Not a life achievement but something positive and I’m glad he’s on the forum sharing some joy.

Oles done a terrific job and today is another bit of proof that he can out think the “best” and he’s a really good manager.

He won’t be world class until we win things but he absolutely could win things with us.

You sound a bit bitter try to cheer up and spread a bit of joy where you can.
 
Good game, much more positive, but this is the perfect match up for Ole. Sit deep, with pace on the counter.

Doesn't change the questions being asked about us against the more defensive teams, especially given we face them more often than the City's, etc. There's also still the sense that it appears very reactive.

Nonetheless, a good result for him and good to see some players showing form.
 
M Bison said:
Some pretty shocking posts he’s quoted from you there though mate.
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Well I might be harsh in describing Ole as a manager and I know his fans get hurt because of that, but I cant hide my opinion about him as manager just because he is a club legend. I only judge him as a manager.
 
Giggsyking said:
Well I might be harsh in describing Ole as a manager and I know his fans get hurt because of that, but I cant hide my opinion about him as manager just because he is a club legend. I only judge him as a manager.
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fair do’s, the posts quoted make you sound a bit silly though to be honest, Ranieri one in particular.
 
Giggsyking said:
Well I might be harsh in describing Ole as a manager and I know his fans get hurt because of that, but I cant hide my opinion about him as manager just because he is a club legend. I only judge him as a manager.
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Then you’re a poor judge of managers. He’s helped transform the squad and team into something a bit more competitive and we’re actually getting close to where we need to be. But I’m guessing you want instant success right?
 
BenitoSTARR said:
You sound a bit bitter try to cheer up and spread a bit of joy where you can.
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Bitter? How? Why would a long time man united supporter be bitter for a win against the Plastico? on the other hand, this thread is about the manager, and I will give my own opinion about him which many here will not like, and I am totally ok with that, they have the right to write whatever they think Ole is, as do I.
 
No other coach gets the best of Pep as often as Ole. It can't all be down to vibes.

We had a clear gameplan for City and executed it very well. You have to applaud Ole and his coaching staff for that. Picked the right lineup, made the changes when needed, no complaints.

Hopefully this sparks us into a run from now until the end of the season.
 
M Bison said:
fair do’s, the posts quoted make you sound a bit silly though to be honest, Ranieri one in particular.
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I think Ranieri is much much better than Ole, what's wrong with that? The work he has done with Chelsea before Jose and winning the League with Leicester is incredible. What has Ole done to be above him?
 
Giggsyking said:
Bitter? How? Why would a long time man united supporter be bitter for a win against the Plastico? on the other hand, this thread is about the manager, and I will give my own opinion about him which many here will not like, and I am totally ok with that, they have the right to write whatever they think Ole is, as do I.
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If your opinion is that Ole is a clown and Ranieri is 10 times the manager I’m not surprised many don’t like it
 
Giggsyking said:
It is a forum and he has the right to to write whatever he wants whenever he wants as long he follows the rules. The result today does not change the bigger picture. We are looking to win trophies and we can all see Ole's limitations as a manager, we played many matches this season there we looked clueless against teams that sit back. Every Ole critic is basing his/her opinion on the collective run not one match or season. I do not think Ole can take the extra step we need for the major titles.
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You are correct Giggsy, but similarly other posters have the right to point out stupid posts as stupid posts.
 
BenitoSTARR said:
Then you’re a poor judge of managers. He’s helped transform the squad and team into something a bit more competitive and we’re actually getting close to where we need to be. But I’m guessing you want instant success right?
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I think managers at Manchester united should not be given more than 2 years to win the League/or at least challenge for the title till the last breath, the enormous amount of money means they should deliver quickly. The only manager at united did not get that luxury was DM tbf.
 
Zlatan 7 said:
If your opinion is that Ole is a clown and Ranieri is 10 times the manager I’m not surprised many don’t like it
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Why is Ole better than Ranieri? Do you think Ole can win the league with a team barley managed to survive relegation?
 
Giggsyking said:
I think managers at Manchester united should not be given more than 2 years to win the League/or at least challenge for the title till the last breath, the enormous amount of money means they should deliver quickly. The only manager at united did not get that luxury was DM tbf.
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Its a good thing you are not running the club if you think two years is how long it takea to turn things aroung. What about a long term vision?
 
el3mel said:
City have a better squad but at the same time our squad isn't as shit as some here making it out to be just to suit their narrative. We have a great squad and a lot of quality players.
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No one saying our squad is complete shite but talksport for example on Friday they asked all 3 of them to make a united and city first 11 and I think Shaw was the only one to make the imaginary team.

Now that's not the barometer for how everyone thinks but it's safe to say majority of people will pick most of city team over ours as well as the bench.


We have a good squad and first 11 but their is flaws at the same time.
 
Giggsyking said:
Well I might be harsh in describing Ole as a manager and I know his fans get hurt because of that, but I cant hide my opinion about him as manager just because he is a club legend. I only judge him as a manager.
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A lot of reasonable posters questioning Ole’s pedigree, you however are not one of them. The posts quoted by @Wumminator are odious. Do you usually find you manage to convince people of your point by screaming (typing) really loud?
 
Flexdegea said:
No one saying our squad is complete shite but talksport for example on Friday they asked all 3 of them to make a united and city first 11 and I think Shaw was the only one to make the imaginary team.
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Which is utterly ridiculous, biased nonsense that tends to happen with one side in incredible form and the other in poor form.
 
Giggsyking said:
I think managers at Manchester united should not be given more than 2 years to win the League/or at least challenge for the title till the last breath, the enormous amount of money means they should deliver quickly.
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Thankfully you are not in charge. Your lack of realism would be a problem.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
Which is utterly ridiculous, biased nonsense that tends to happen with one side in incredible form and the other in poor form.
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I was laughing myself but let's be honest lot of outside of Us would be thinking the same.

Bruno only obvious choice but they want debuyne in and they think he only hits penalties for some reason.
 
McTerminator said:
You are correct Giggsy, but similarly other posters have the right to point out stupid posts as stupid posts.
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Absolutely. But you know what, I never go around and do these posts searches and find stupid posts on any poster here like what the multiple "funniest poster" winner did, that is just childish dont you think?
 
Flexdegea said:
No one saying our squad is complete shite but talksport for example on Friday they asked all 3 of them to make a united and city first 11 and I think Shaw was the only one to make the imaginary team.

Now that's not the barometer for how everyone thinks but it's safe to say majority of people will pick most of city team over ours as well as the bench.


We have a good squad and first 11 but their is flaws at the same time.
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Pretty sure no one has said our squad is better than City. What we're saying is we have a great squad and just because someone else has a better squad than you it doesn't mean you have absolutely no chance to win the league against them like what some here are convincing themselves with. Football doesn't work like this.

Imagine if we hadn't actually lost the ridiculously easy points we lost against trash teams like Sheffield, WBA, Palace or stuff and with the today's Derby win ? The title race would have been absolutely on and we would be looking forward for a very exciting end season, instead of today's win cutting the gap to 11 only.

My point is City yes have overall better squad than us but our squad is great, has ton of quality and absolutely can at least put a good challenge for the title, I have no doubt about that.

Ole did a pretty good job today managing this game and getting a great win and I haven't actually said that he should leave by the end of the season, because I'm fully expecting us to finish 2nd and win EL. What I'm saying is don't rush and give him a contract in summer and wait till we see if we'll put a title challenge next season or not. Pretty fair I guess.
 
Giggsyking said:
What is the agenda? This is really silly? I do not know Ole personally! why would I have an agenda against someone I never met, because he is bad at his job and I WANT SUCCESS TO THE CLUB I LOVE? If Ole wins major trophies do you think there is any united supporter would hate that?
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You just need to read your posts again that the other poster has quoted and honestly say what you would say to someone else posting that. Everyone wants success for their club, there’s lots of posters who don’t think Ole is the right man for the job but they don’t post the stuff you do. You make the stuff personal about Ole rather than the managerial stuff.
 
Flexdegea said:
I was laughing myself but let's be honest lot of outside of Us would be thinking the same.
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I don’t think anyone with an actual brain thinks one player from the 2nd best side in the league makes it into the best side.

Arguments for Bruno, Pogba, Rashford, Maguire & Shaw. I mean, we watch Maguire constantly outperform Stones at International level, and Bruno’s a much better player than Gundogan, something MOST football fans also agree with, just as they agree Pogba is better than fecking Rodri.
 
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Regulus Arcturus Black said:
I don’t think anyone with an actual brain thinks one player from the 2nd best side in the league makes it into the best side.

Arguments for Bruno, Pogba, Rashford, Maguire & Shaw. I mean, we watch Maguire constantly outperform Stones at International level, and Bruno’s a much better player than Gundogen.
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I agree with you. Was just pointing out to another poster how people would perceive our teams an squad to city.

Stones these days is the 2nd coming of tony Adams
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
I don’t think anyone with an actual brain thinks one player from the 2nd best side in the league makes it into the best side.

Arguments for Bruno, Pogba, Rashford, Maguire & Shaw. I mean, we watch Maguire constantly outperform Stones at International level, and Bruno’s a much better player than Gundogen.
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Gundogen has been fantastic this season. I'll put both Bruno and Gundogen in a one lineup if we're talking about this season only. KDB is having a very poor season overall so I don't think he should be in any lineups based on current form.
 
I do not agree that we sat back and defended the whole day today. We took the game to City and we had a very quick tempo and played at pace. My question is why cannot we do this or did not do this against the bottom clubs and other top clubs? We started those games on the back foot and slow and got punished. We did not play the slow football we normally play.
I would say that Henderson made a difference too. He used his head in throwing that ball out. City thought he was going to drop it to one of the CBs and they were up on the box to press. If we had won against Everton, West Ham, Palace, WBA and Sheffield United, we would have had those extra points with today's win we should be equal on point to City I think.
 
Rossa said:
Its a good thing you are not running the club if you think two years is how long it takea to turn things aroung. What about a long term vision?
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2 years is a very long time for a manager to implement everything he needs to win a major trophy or at least challenge for them till the last breath. There are exceptions in case you build a team from zero with limited resources (like what Klopp did). Ole had sufficient backup and is one of the biggest spenders in the league on a team already is one of the most expensive teams in the world. If Ole stays (more likely) for the next season and he manages to win the league or the CL next year then I will be more than happy to eat my words and say I was wrong about him all along.
 
Giggsyking said:
2 years is a very long time for a manager to implement everything he needs to win a major trophy or at least challenge for them till the last breath. There are exceptions in case you build a team from zero with limited resources (like what Klopp did). Ole had sufficient backup and is one of the biggest spenders in the league on a team already is one of the most expensive teams in the world. If Ole stays (more likely) for the next season and he manages to win the league or the CL next year then I will be more than happy to eat my words and say I was wrong about him all along.
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And Liverpool with said Klopp and Guardiola with a well functioning City are both in the league. I think you are way off. We are second, just having beat City, and you are having a moaner.

We are moving in the right direction
 
TheGame said:
You just need to read your posts again that the other poster has quoted and honestly say what you would say to someone else posting that. Everyone wants success for their club, there’s lots of posters who don’t think Ole is the right man for the job but they don’t post the stuff you do. You make the stuff personal about Ole rather than the managerial stuff.
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Why is it personal? he is not a poster here, and even if he is, he will be perfectly fine taking criticism while he is getting millions every year.
 
Giggsyking said:
2 years is a very long time for a manager to implement everything he needs to win a major trophy or at least challenge for them till the last breath.
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Tangible progress is a better barometer.

Today was massive, I think if we lose today we’d have struggled to break the slump and could have ended the season will no tangible signs of progress whatsoever.
Today was huge though, the win rate is up from a miserable 47% last season, to currently 53.5%. It remains to be seen but the hope must be that this result will pushes us on. 6 wins from the final 10 and we’ll end the season with over 55% win rate. We’ll also be more confident in the cups.

Obviously we could also react like the day after the Lord Mayor’s show and have a crappy end to the season.

Best for us all to wait and see.
 
Giggsyking said:
Why is it personal? he is not a poster here, and even if he is, he will be perfectly fine taking criticism while he is getting millions every year.
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Its personal because you are directing comments like clown etc. You are making personal comments instead of actually explain why Ole is not right person for the job. I don’t we are going to agree on this.
 
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